When is a slut not a slut? When he’s a dude. So says the (He)artist(e) formerly known as Roissy, in yet another post of his trying to prove that his brand of Pick-Up Assholery is fully proven by SCIENCE!
His evidence in this case? A recent study of speed dating that showed that (straight) women, in addition to being attracted to attractive men (duh!), also seem to be attracted to men with high “sociosexuality” ratings. “Sociosexuality,” for those not fully immersed in the SCIENCE!! of dating, is basically someone’s propensity for casual sex.
In other words, the study found that guys who do a lot of casual dating tended to do better at casual dating.
Heartiste/Roissy puts it this way:
Men who have high sociosexuality (HSS) are more attractive to women because the suite of characteristics associated with HSS suggest prior experience bedding women and possession of mating skills that attract women.
It’s akin to a form of preselection for men, minus the actual women he’s banging being physically present at his side to aid in the alpha judging process that all women, consciously or not, impose on their suitors.
In a very loose sense, high male sociosexuality is male sluttiness.
If you strip out the PUA nonsense about the “alpha judging process,” all this seems fairly self-evident, if not simply tautological. Guys who’ve been with a lot of women will probably do better with women in the future than guys with no experience who view women as strange alien creatures. (Note: In all this, we’re only talking about straight people; PUAs don’t seem aware that gay people exist, outside of their own fantasies of hot bi girl threesomes.)
It’s at this point that Heartiste/Roissy amps up the assholery:
Male sluttiness is not equivalent to female sluttiness. It is more difficult for a man to be slutty that it is for a woman owing to the discrepancy in worth between sperm and egg, so people justifiably perceive male sluts to have higher quality mate value, and higher quality mating skills, than female sluts for whom the act of sexual conquest is merely synonym for being easy.
In other words, it’s bad to be a female slut, but great to be a male slut:
[T]he study results confirm the validity of game when its conclusions find that male sociosexuality is a relatively powerful predictor of attractiveness to women, even to women looking for long-term relationships.
Not only can this SCIENCE!! of game help to get dudes laid – it can basically save the world from evil fat chicks.
It’s vital to readers to get this scientific information validating game out there, because there are a lot of doubters and haters who are blinded by what they won’t see. Sometimes, men need to know that there is an experimental foundation supporting all these seduction techniques and peculiarities of female behavior. It’s not necessary to know this stuff to start gaming chicks out in the field right now, but for men with a cynical bent or shy disposition, it helps to know that there are rules that govern human interaction. It may be the boost they need.
Turning former nerds into wily lotharios will help to put those uppity female sluts in their place:
[A] moment of candor. This blog is first and foremost a source of self-amusement, but it is also a true and real desire to teach and to see men succeed sexually and emotionally with women. Men who become better at attracting women increase their options in the mating market. Men with increased options cause women to behave better. Women behaving better redounds to the benefit of families, and to society.
And by “behave better”, I mean the whole panoply of awful modern female behavior: cheating, cock carouseling, divorcing on a whim, eat pray loving, straycationing, spinstering, attention whoring, voting and fattening up into repulsive dirigibles.
Yep, he did slyly insert “voting” into all that. Sneaky!
So slut it up, fellas! It’s the only way to put those evil lady sluts in their place. And, thereby, save the world from sex-having, vote-casting slatterns.
Our “legion” of enemies is limited to the trolls that usually post on this board, so we’re guessing you’re one of about… 5, maybe?
Asshat: Yeah, just skip the whole part where I asked you to clarify your argument, and the (unless that’s not what you’re saying) in the post you quoted. So, you’re actually arguing that men tend to be taller than women? As I’ve said before, back that thesis the fuck up.
I’m female-assigned and 5’7″.
And, um, I’m not sure what height differences (men and women are also different in strength and pain tolerance, overall!) have to do with whether you should treat people equally. Do you support more votes for tall people?
How sperm become men: http://i373.photobucket.com/albums/oo176/vexing_times/mans.jpg
Asshat: I give up. Come back when you have a basic grasp of how traits are passed down, we might have an interesting discussion. Until then, seriously, read a fucking book.
Why does it matter?
answer my question or I’ll say something misandric! so help me god I will xD
Nowhere, because we’re not–what’s the word?–”assholes.”
I thought you cared about equal treatment, not equal results?
If feminists cared about equal treatment they would be outside courthouses lobbying that every accused rapist gets released until the law is changed, because they should get the same belief accorded to accusers, which is that people believe them 100%. But no, I haven’t seen any feminists say that. Women are believed, men aren’t. Equal treatment?
If feminists cared about equal treatment they would be outside fire houses lobbying that the women who are a danger to their team and the public should be fired rather than lobbying that more incapable women are hired. Show me the feminists doing that? No?
Where’s the equal treatment?
You don’t get out much, do you?
“Are you going to lobby that she be fired? Where are the protests outside fire houses by feminists to fire inadequate women?
You can claim whatever you like. Actions speak louder than words.”
I can only make changes wherever my position allows me. All I can promise to you is that if I ever hire a female video editor who isn’t qualified for the job, I’ll fire her in exchange for someone who can do the work.
But by your logic, if I’m not protesting every singe thing that bothers me in the world, then I’m not a real feminist. If applied to everything else, it wouldn’t make sense. It would be like saying a nurse who works with AIDS patients doesn’t really care about health if they aren’t working with patients with Diabetes.
So, are you in any way volunteering to help male victims of rape?
And, um, I’m not sure what height differences (men and women are also different in strength and pain tolerance, overall!) have to do with whether you should treat people equally.
MRAs want to treat people equally. That means that we don’t pretend somebody who is 5’4″ can reach the same shelves as somebody who is 6’4″. That’s what feminism wants.
I can only make changes wherever my position allows me. All I can promise to you is that if I ever hire a female video editor who isn’t qualified for the job, I’ll fire her in exchange for someone who can do the work.
And how many have you fired?
Because there are *many* variations in height, weight, IQ, etc. when you’re looking at individuals in a population of either/any gender? You realize that by limiting the outcomes of the argument to “men and women being all the same” and “men being taller” you’re missing a whole lot, right?
Too coherant to be NWO, not flowery enough to be Meller, not funny enough to be Arks…could be Hengist returning again, I guess, but my vote’s on MRAL. I mean…
“When it comes to sex, all men are the 99%, women are the 1%.”
obvious troll is obvious
and to dumb to answer a simple question
also I’m 5’6 and a half. The last guy I liked was just about my height.
Stools and ladders do not exist! They are only feminist propaganda!
But by your logic, if I’m not protesting every singe thing that bothers me in the world, then I’m not a real feminist. If applied to everything else, it wouldn’t make sense. It would be like saying a nurse who works with AIDS patients doesn’t really care about health if they aren’t working with patients with Diabetes.
No. But it shows your priorities. You claim to want equal treatment, but you don’t actually fight for it. You only fight for unequal treatment.
@ Scar
You are a genius, and I would like to subscribe to your cartoon newsletter.
Stools and ladders do not exist! They are only feminist propaganda!
This is exactly my point. MRAs believe they do. Feminists believe they don’t. We acknowledge that somebody who is short needs a ladder, feminists think that we should ignore that little detail and just pretend they don’t, and if they’re unable to complete their job, feminists think rather than be given a ladder, they should just be paid for not doing work.
Really? I’m 5’2 and can reach the tops of shelves just fine, with a ladder. And holy moly! When that 5’2 guy needs to reach the top of the shelf, he uses a ladder too!
how about protesting on behalf of men then?
Fyi, trolling a blog on a friday night is not protesting
@Quackers: “Oh look feminist critics condemns women fighting back when they’re being harassed online. Lovely. I just lost all respect for that site, I thought it was one of the very few places online that debated feminism without turning into some MRA shitstorm.”
I see that they’re currently promoting GWW on their site. They probably like her because she says all the anti-feminist things they like to hear, and ignore her misogyny or her close ties to Paul Elam. I can’t say “You posted a GWW video, therefore you agree with all her positions!” of course, but it does make me kind of wary of their positions and aims.
@CasandraSays
When it comes to pretty much everything, men are the 99% and women are the 1%. Sex is merely the mechanism which feminism uses to extort that sort of control.
Feminists talk about privilege all the time but are blind that women have all the privilege in the world.
“If feminists cared about equal treatment they would be outside courthouses lobbying that every accused rapist gets released until the law is changed, because they should get the same belief accorded to accusers, which is that people believe them 100%. But no, I haven’t seen any feminists say that. Women are believed, men aren’t. Equal treatment?”
Hmm. NWO on a really good day, or MRAL trying to convince people that he’s NWO? Or the intermediate stage of the evolution of an MRAL into a NWO?
Seriously, Asshat, could you figure out how to use the quote function? {blockquote}what you’re quoting{/blockquote}, except the { and } get replaced by .
“Where did I refuse to acknowledge? Point me to specifically where I said no woman could be taller than any man.”
Oh dear gods, not bothering. You can’t honestly be THAT stupid, can ya?
I vote that he’s Zarat.