A startling new development on the frontiers of anti-male oppression. According to the loquacious lady MRA known as girlwriteswhat on Reddit, men are being oppressed by evil feminist dudes cruelly clamping down on their right to bitch about ladies in the bathroom. In a recent comment she writes:
No space is allowed to be male-only, or male-viewpoint-only, but women insist on female-only or female-viewpoint-only spaces all the time.
The only male safe space left on the planet is the men’s bathroom, ffs. And even then, there will be feminist-leaning men policing what is said. It’s very frustrating.
As a dude feminist who is a regular user of men’s restrooms, I should note that dudes do not actually talk in restrooms.
Happily, this does not prevent me, as a dude feminist, from policing the non-existent speech of other dudes in said restrooms.
Here is the complete transcript of a restroom discussion I recently policed:
Dude One: [silently urinates]
Dude Two: [silently urinates]
Dude Three: [silently poops]
Me: Goddessdamnit, keep it down with all your lady-bashing! Men are bad!
Always glad to help.
HT to Shit Reddit Says, which has just ended its month-long moratorium on r/mensrights posts, for pointing me to girlwriteswhat’s observation.
Unless you are trying to say that feminists are actually in charge of everything. That they a making all the decisions. That’s why the Susan G. Komen Foundation withdrew directed block grants for breast cancer screening from Planned Parenthood when a Republican started a witch hunt in the House… because FEMINISM.
Well, yeah. In Zarat’s world, feminists want to demolish Planned Parenthood so more women will have children they can’t afford and suck sweet, sweet money from men. Feminists hate birth control and abortion rights, it was feminists who pressured Komen to withdraw its funding from Planned Parenthood, and if you visit any feminist blog right now you’ll see posts celebrating Komen’s decision.
Celebrating meaning “STOP GIVING MONEY TO THOSE ASSHOLES.”
When have mothers had to face systematic and virtually automatic loss of their children? In what society, in what time?
My great-grandmother’s younger siblings were all seized and thrown into an orphanage when their mother died and their father walked out on them. My great-grandmother dropped out of high school and went to work (I don’t know what she did at that time, but for most of her adult life she was a janitor) to earn enough money to get her siblings back, one by one, and raise them on her own.
This was not uncommon; I have plenty of ancestors who were spent time in orphanages as children because their parents were judged too poor to support them. Big Catholic families and all. That’s why today we have government assistance for children and non-custodial parents are required to pay child support: because the alternative was cruel.
Oh, for fuck’s sake, this is as stupid as your comment from yesterday about Martin Luther King, Jr. and the Black Panthers. Possibly stupider…
Zarat, you do realize that history is something you can study, right? You don’t just have to make it up as you go along. Your difficulties with reading comprehension notwithstanding, you can actually read up on the history of the issues you want to discuss. You can continue to lie about the facts if you prefer.
But you need to know what the fuck you’re talking about.
Are you going to address your erroneous interpretation of the Texas ruling about child support?
@ Zarat
http://www.gossipextra.com/2011/10/24/lawsuit-homeless-man-used-for-police-target-practice/
I’ll keep exposing your lies, nonsense and imbecilic logic.
A homeless person was attacked and injured by some police officers. Because that homeless person was a man, Antz claims to believe that the violence inflicted upon the victim is “feminist violence”.
Using the same Zarat logic, when you (verbally) attacked the young woman in the pharmacy, was it a feminist attack? Because she is a woman and you are a man, and you were driven to attack her (verbally) because of she is a woman and feminism has “forced” you to act in a certain way?**
** This is reference to Zarat boasting on AVfM about recoiling from a woman who complimented his child and telling her “not to touch my child.”
AntZ, you have also overlooked a problem of non custodial parents trying to get joint custody but not actually wanting to have their children on their assigned times. Some parents only fight for joint custody to get out of paying child support. Here is a quote from Elizabeth Baldwin, a divorce attorney and the co author of The Complete Idiot’s Guide to Divorce
Baldwin also explained when it’s better to have joint custody or not to have it.
Trends in Child Custody interview
Ideally, both parents would want to put in equal time and effort into raising the children after a divorce. Unfortunately, there are some bad parents out there who don’t want to do any work raising their own children. They want the other parent to do all the work and bear all of the costs as well. There are even situations where neither parent wants custody of the children, and neither parent wants to provide financial support for the children. You are acting like divorce and custody proceedings are all the same, when in reality it’s too complex for a one size fits all solution.
PFKAE: Celebrating meaning “STOP GIVING MONEY TO THOSE ASSHOLES.”
Or not. I’m conflicted.
The email from the Komen MA people didn’t make me happier.
They explained they have never given to PP (OK), and so any disbursements they make won’t be affected, but…
It is our hope that any investigations that impact our ability to fund organizations will be resolved in an expedited manner so that we may continue funding services for our residents through whichever breast health programs best serve their needs.
Since the reason for the stoppage (at the national level) is that bogus investigation what it tells me is anyone who dislikes anyone Komen gives aid to can get that aid shut off, if they can get a congress-critter to gin up a, “controversy”.
That’s rewarding bad behavior.
Fuck… forgot to close the tag. If you hit the link you get my thoughts, elseweb.
How much do you think kids cost, dude? Don’t you, you know, have some? Child support doesn’t cover the costs of raising a kid with bonus play money. It helps with the costs. On rare occasions, it helps to the tune of 50%; but not usually. There are also sacrifices one has to make in order to spend time with one’s kids, which can mean losing opportunities for raises and promotions.
Given that our children are, by far, the most important aspect of our lives
Children are definitely not the most important part of every parent’s life. I’m glad you feel that way about your children, but that is far from universal.
How about a Canadian one? My dad was a lot better at being a father after my parents divorced, but there’s no way he would have been able — or eager– to see us more than he did. He had a cot in his office, for those nights when it just doesn’t make sense to go home. Grab 3 hours’ sleep, get back to ‘er! You can’t do that and take care of children. Given the choice, the work outside the home was always more important than the work of raising his kids.
In the current regime of misandry, men cannot be supposed to act in their interests (because of false consciouness, fear resignation or general complacency) Most can only give opinions in anonymity. That why supporting non-traditionalist antifeminist women is so importatant, they can get things done for men when men themselves can’t.
Blockquotes R hard.
By the way, I don’t think my dad was the worst parent ever, by any means. He never abused anybody, he never hurt us on purpose. He just bought into the patriarchal message that moms do the child rearing, and dads bring in the money to do it; which he did, faithfully, throughout our childhoods. He still says “I love you” via gifts of a practical nature. It’s all he knows how to do.
So feminism is a response to a regime of misandry, not misogyny? You learn something new every day!!
Misandry is misogyny, but in another way
I have a new proposal. There was this awesomely weird movie in the 60s in which a submarine was shrunk and injected into someone’s bloodstream, allowing the crew to take a close look at the inside of the human body. It would be truly fascinating if we could do that with the brain of an MRA. I’d love to try to figure out the flow of their odd pretzel logic.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060397/
For example I will now show why calling women “bitches” is misandry.
Valerie Solanas said in Scum Manifesto ” To call a man an animal is to flatter him” And how right she was! Men are called studs and bull and these are considered positive remarks (referencing sexual prowess)), Women are called cows and bitches and these are considered insults. So when calling women these words, you are reinforcing the construct that men should be likened to non-humanity and women not.
First Antz said that MLK got help from the Black Panthers…now he says that Mothers (nay, women in general) never got any shit.
…
My world has been shattered.
/sarcasm, for Antz’s sake
Ami?
@CassandraSays
Matt Groening must be a huge fan of that movie, he’s paid homage to it in The Simpsons and on Futurama
“Valerie Solanas said in Scum Manifesto ” To call a man an animal is to flatter him” And how right she was! Men are called studs and bull and these are considered positive remarks (referencing sexual prowess)), Women are called cows and bitches and these are considered insults. So when calling women these words, you are reinforcing the construct that men should be likened to non-humanity and women not.”
I think you’ve got a few words mixed up there.
talacaris: What….? Most can only speak on conditions of anonymity? That’s why Rick Santorum is hiding out, and has been for the past decade.
Same for Rush Limbaugh, and Ted Swaggart, and Pat Robertson and Paul Elam, and, well you should have gotten the point by now.
What, btw, is the meaning of a “non-traditionalist anti-feminist woman”?
Dude… your jargon is hampering your communication. Try English, it works better.
@ Shadow
The odd thing is that that movie was made before acid really became much of a thing. I guess maybe Hollywood folks started early.
Certainly, feel free to improve.
A woman who is both opposed to traditional, conservative values and feminism
“AntZ, you have also overlooked a problem of non custodial parents trying to get joint custody but not actually wanting to have their children on their assigned times.”
A valid point, but easy to address.
The overly harsh legal penalties that are immorally used to punish fathers who lose their jobs and fall behind on child support ..
.. would be very APPROPRIATE for any father or mother who accepted shared physical and then did not provide adequately for his or her children.
Basically, when you accept full shared, be prepared to expect a visit from CPS at any time (without warning). If your child is neglected, you better get a good lawyer.
To be fair, single fathers would have to quality for social benefits that single mothers have access to. It would not matter for middle class and affluent fathers, but there are also millions of very poor dads who will need financial support from the state to properly provide for their children.
War is peace, Ignorance is Strength, and we have always been at war with Eastasia.
I’m not sure what this is.
Is it some kind of squirrel?