Ladies, your time is up! The sexy robogals are here! Prepare for the end of feminism and the eventual elimination of all women, with the possible exception of some of the really hot ones, so long as they don’t have too many opinions of their own.
Now that I’ve got your attention I should point out that the sexy Robogals aren’t quite here yet. The not-quite-Robogals currently available, as we’ve seen, are a lot more scary than sexy.
But one dude has a much simpler and less horrifying solution: he’s invented a doohickey that will allow horny penis-having people to attach a Fleshlight to their iPads, so they can pretend to be having some sort of sexual relations with images of actual sexy ladies (or sexy anything else, for that matter) on their iPads.
Read more at The Register, which also has a photo of the doohickey at work. (Dude fucking it not pictured.) I really didn’t feel like having that picture here, hence the gif of Maru the cat with his head in a bag.
“Cassandra, you said you were like 5’2. That’s a fucking laugh. I hope you realize that these men only agree to do any of that shit because it turns them on, and that if you even for a second crossed the line they would sit up and contemptuously dump your weak-ass ladyframe to the side.”
And that would be why I find it more exciting to dominate men twice my size, the fact that they’re strong enough to overpower me, and I can dominate them anyway, because they want me to. Now obviously this is all a bit beyond your comprehension, given your lack of sexual experience*, your pitiful inability to understand social interactions, and your deep seated paranoia about women. Which is why maybe you should sit this conversation out. Let’s face it, you don’t really have the context needed to either understand the subject being discussed or add anything interesting to it.
* Sexual inexperience alone wouldn’t prevent someone from understanding the dynamics going on in kink, but combined with MRALs other issues, it’s like watching a person who never learned their multiplication tables trying to discuss particle physics.
@MRAL
BDSM =/= abuse
Preferring different things with members of different genders sexually =/= sexism
Shouldn’t that be obvious enough? And aren’t you meant to be on a break right now?
Many men have been conditioned to be docile as well (I myself, for one) but Cassandra doesn’t care about that because it’s just worthless disposable men.
Also, the fact that our resident angry adolescent thinks that BSDM involves forcing unwilling people to submit to stuff that they don’t like? Yep, that’s pretty creepy. But funny in context, given that we’ve been discussing how people who think of kink that way are a problem within the kink community, and not welcomed by most other kinksters.
I think MRAL is missing the whole idea that the *top* maybe does BDSM because it also turns *them* on? Heaven forbid people do unusual things in bed to get off! XD
She’s a misandrist because… she likes topping men? No… that’s just like making the assumption that all guys who want to top women are misogynist, i.e., not true.
That shit is played out, I don’t blame you at all.
Also, the massive hate-on that MRAL has for Cassandra is… disturbing, to say the least. You do remember that this whole falling out started when you willfully antagonized her for no fucking reason, don’t you MRAL?
I think this was why I needed clarification on what Cassandra stated earlier. If you actually believe that BDSM and abuse aren’t the same, the gender of the person wouldn’t matter… right?
@CassandraSays
Do not! :p
I think it’s becoming clear that, to MRAL, having any sexual preferences outside of wanting to fuck women he considers hot is somehow misandric or evidence of being corrupted by feminism or unbelievably arrogant.
Not just his previous “women shouldn’t be allowed to think men are hot”, but “nobody can think anything’s hot unless I agree or I’ll be really sad”.
It’s not healthy, MRAL.
Basically I think that the social context has poisoned the well for me in terms of submissive women and how I interact with them. Even though I know that they would be perfectly willing, happy to be there, etc, on some level it just doesn’t work for me. I mean, I think absent the context I’d still be more interested in topping men because of the size differential, but I’m also honest enough to admit that the social context and the fact that I’ve had a lot of men attempt to get dominant with me without my consent is influencing my feelings on a subconscious level.
And yeah, on MRAL’s weird little freakout – topping someone wouldn’t be fun for me unless they were into it. The fact that they’re into it is kind of the point of the whole thing. Why would I even want to, say, tie someone up and tease him if I didn’t think it would be fun for him too?
Regarding the AmazingAtheist…his anti feminist videos are stupid because he doesn’t even know what the fuck he’s talking about. In his other one he thinks we’re all out to take away his porn. The reality is that anti-porn fems are often in disagreement with sex-positive feminist who have no problem with porn. I don’t even think anti-porn feminists are that common…I don’t seem to come across them often. I also certainly don’t have a problem with porn, I just hope the women who do it are doing it because they want to and are actually enjoying it, especially in the more hardcore stuff.
And in this video Boggi posted…once again conflating patriarchy with ALL individual men. It is NOT. Fuck. I almost wish we would just start using kyriarchy because no one seems to get it. But deny that the world is 90% run by men and you look like an idiot. And how many times have feminists said that patriarchy negatively affects men to?
Here, I’ll say it. Right now. I Quackers, a feminist, declares that patriarchy is unfair and harms men by unfairly expecting then to fight in wars, to be aggressive, to perpetuate the idea that men can never be a victim of a crime like rape and to not allow them to express any emotion other than anger.
There.
Also the whole thing with focusing on men in feminism…since when did most men even care? up until I found out about MRAs all I came across where men going “hurr hurr all that manhating feminism shit, stop whining bitches” I never came across men who were actually INTERESTED in gender issues. The ones I came across just brushed it off as something the silly wimminz whined about. Now all of a sudden men want a part in it? well fine, but we’d appreciate it if you wouldn’t shit all over the DECADES of theory and words of feminists. We’d appreciate it if you wouldn’t try to fucking run everything like everything else in the world which is mainly run by men or has been run by men. And you know, it’s great that the AmazingAthiest doesn’t think women are inferior but many men still do.
And oh the irony of him complaining that feminists won’t concede with any of his points. Um..do MRAs concede with any of OUR points? No. In fact they even take it further and claim that all women’s oppression or discrimination is a LIE. And we have to concede with them? I know I’ve conceded with some MRA talking points. I’ve conceded that there is more DV committed by women than I previously thought (though I still have doubts that its 50/50 exactly) and that DV shelters for men are a must. I also concede that men should not be forced to pay child support by law thus having a choice in whether they become fathers or not (though MRAs need to realize that to do this discrimination against single mothers absolutely must end in the work force)
As for the circumcision argument, the youtube comment says it all:
sorry for the long post lol
I’d file the Amazing Atheist under the general category of “boring people who’re angry at group X for no valid reason ranting”. The internet is full of such people, and the rest of us mostly try to avoid them, except when they troll relentlessly. (HINT! GIANT HINT!)
“I think it’s becoming clear that, to MRAL, having any sexual preferences outside of wanting to fuck women he considers hot is somehow misandric or evidence of being corrupted by feminism or unbelievably arrogant.”
So he’d quit pestering me if I proclaimed my love for Katy Perry’s boobs?
Well, I imagine you’d have to renounce everything else. It’s worth a try though.
Addendum to lowquacks point – alternate preferences are uncceptable if you have a vagina. If you’re a man having preference different from MRALs seems to briefly annoy him, but doesn’t seem to lead to the sort of obsessive rage that he’s been manifesting towards me recently, or that he used to show towards ozy and occasionally Holly.
That’s where I had him filed too, until he started flapping his yap about feminism.
This time, it’s personal.
Seeing him sited approvingly in a feminist space did raise my eyebrows a bit. Hey, I’m an atheist too, but the club isn’t so small that we need tp be grateful to have people like that as members.
You had better be for some sort of universal tax that is paid out to all parents of sub-18 children, or you are seriously fucking up poor kids even more than they already are.
It’s not that I disagree that some men suffer under patriarchy. I just hate it when marginalized groups and their defenders start going out of their way to assuage the comfortable and promise them they’re not really against the Majority. Idiots who say that these groups are against the majority are either too stupid to know they’re stupid, or already know that we don’t and are trying to disarm us. So really, MRAL, piss off.
@Quakers and CassandraSays
What is your take on the disadvantages men face and the supposed priviledge women have that TTA mentioned?
Do you agree with any of it?
For instance, is it really true that men receive 40% greater sentencing than women?
@Rutee
Yeah I do. I think that if that were to happen that discrimination against mothers in the workforce needs to end ASAP, more accessible and cheaper childcare centers, and yes, some kind of tax or form of social security for single parents. I know that’s where MRAs will have a fit. Men will no longer have to pay child support but now the government is stealing money from men to give to those slutty single mothers and their “womb turds” as they so eloquently put it.
@Boggi
Well even though there is no more draft, selective service needs to go. Military enrollment should be strictly voluntary.
“For instance, is it really true that men receive 40% greater sentencing than women?”
You might want to ask Professor Google that, if it’s something you’re interested in. Not sure why Quackers or I should go do the research for you.
I’ve heard that women get more lenient sentences but I haven’t seen any hard proof of it. One study showed though that it was actually male judges who sentenced women to less time due to sexist stereotypes, not female judges. Also when MRAs bring that up they still neglect to mention that statistically men do commit more crime.
Also this whole question is moot since a. nobody here is claiming that nothing bad happens to men ever under patriarchy and b. if patriarchy has negative effects for some men (and it does), that’s not a reason why feminism shouldn’t exist.
“I know that’s where MRAs will have a fit. Men will no longer have to pay child support but now the government is stealing money from men to give to those slutty single mothers and their “womb turds” as they so eloquently put it.”
In other words, women are at fault no matter what they do. Hooray for mainstream sexism where the blame is always at women’s feet!
So let me get this straight. How an MRA envisions humanity in a nutshell: Women are genetic stock and lovedolls who can’t help but destroy civilization unless they’re chained in the kitchen. Men are alpha, beta, and omega apes that evolved to be killers, pedophiles, and rapists. And children are womb turds and the way evil black “welfare queens” exploit white men.
And MRAs say they are a human rights movement and accuse feminists of being misandrist assholes. Perhaps a look in the mirror every once in a while will do good for you.
Domestic Violence: True, because women are not taken seriously in general. Of course violence by them is downplayed.
Child Custody: Blatant lie. Men win roughly half the cases they contest in family court (In the US, at least). That’s probably disproportionately high, considering that women are disproportionately the primary caretakers before a marriage.
Reproductive rights: There is no movement to firebomb doctors who perform vasectomies, so he can fuck right back off.
Circumcision: Already covered by another poster; if it was as harmful, there’d be as much to rail about. As is it still shouldn’t be something parents can order for their son until the son can consent to it himself.
Draft: MEriken have no right to complain about this until nukes no longer matter due to SCIENCE FICTION. You will not be sent to war, regardless of your gender, unless you specifically get in.
More broadly, conscription and draft policies don’t just serve as a downside; much more frequently than not, being a soldier had pretty legit benefits over the alternative. Some draftees get the shit end of the stick, but given the GI Bill…
I can only listen to privileged atheists whine for so long on their privilege. Deeply personal issue for me, sadly.