Sure, Man Boobz 2011 Troll of the Year NWOslave may live in an alternate reality — but he at least seems well-grounded in that reality. What might happen if he were to suddenly ingest a tab or ten of LSD?
I think I have an answer to that question. Meet blogger and conspiracy theorist Jay Dyer, a self-described “controversialist, writer, comedian, debater, and philosopher/theologian.”
That’s a mouthful, and Jay more or less lives up to it, delivering stream of consciousness rants that range from Aleister Crowley (he’s not a fan) to the evils of women dressing like Hannah Montana. Plus he quotes the Bible from time to time.
Actually, that description doesn’t even begin to capture Jay’s peculiar charms. So, without further ado, I present to you some highlights from an essay titled The United Skanks of Amerika that Jay wrote with the assistance of someone identified only as M.B.
Amerika has become one, big, nasty, black metal mosh pit. Satan said to Adam and Eve “do what thou wilt,” Satanist Aleister Crowley said, “do what thou wilt” and the gospel of Amerika is “do what thou wilt.” … Churches are dominated by fat matriarchal women and homosexuals. Women open their purses and the priests of Ashtoreth bow and tell them whatever they want to hear. … Amerika is a play land – a bigger, gayer Disney world. It’s middle-aged moms on facebook, donning Montana garb. The nation is frozen in perpetual adolescence and arrested development.
After this dramatic opening, Jay offers up the strangest capsule version of American history I’ve ever seen:
Started by a bunch of tee-totaler puritan gnostics, this nation has jumped to the opposite extreme and become a cess pool of flesh. In fact, in the East Coast punk scene, kids are now eating chunks of each others’ flesh. Let that sink in. In the West Coast gay scene, it is now an honor to receive AIDS from trendy gays.
Then Jay gets around to the “skanks” of the essay’s title:
Women of this country, especially young women, are perpetual princesses stuck in a perpetual mirror glance, coated in chemicals and striving for the most unnatural goals – to be a manwoman. For a sensible male to get with one of these creatures is in serious danger. But watch out – before long, they’ve left you for another woman and taken your fake Federal Reserve notes. They get half of your all-seeing eyes. Whores with your Horus. Dressed like complete whores, will they soon be completely naked?
But young men don’t get off any easier in Jay’s critique:
The average twenty-something male is now a fat, gamer, feminized, emo freak, who spits every time he lisps, because he can’t form sentences.
Neither do middle-aged men:
Grown men – baby-boomer dads – collect comics and play Dungeons & Dragons. And if they don’t, they stare at pixelated football and the Maso-kabbalist videodrome complex.
Yes, he really did just say “Maso-kabbalist videodrome complex.”
Jay also has some issues with higher education:
The “wise men” of this culture are the Marxist, gay, feminist, druid college professors, who, if they have children, drive them to white horror core rap concerts. Just like the sociology professor mom involved with Pyscho Sam whom her daughter met over Myspace.
And lower education:
That any parent would put their children in public school is a sign of apparent hatred of their kids. Why would anyone put their kids in a government re-education camp? Public schools are prisons where the teachers screw students and students get doped up on pills become homosexual.
When they’re not shooting each other, that is:
[P]arents can’t understand why their children shoot each other at school. The[y] shoot one another at school because they are possessed by the demonic culture. And while you stupidly play golf and make scrapbooks, your kids are worshipping Lucifer, who, according to you, doesn’t exist.
Women working! Men raising kids! It’s all one big air-conditioned nightmare for Jay:
The family is now become stay-at-home dads that care for the 1.3 kids, while moms climb the skyscraper and has sex with the CEO for more fake fed notes. If it’s not this, it’s “my two dads.”
Preach it, Jay!
Amerika is just this – Chuck E. Cheese speeding at you on a Harley, holding Crowley’s Magick in Theory and Practice,with Jenna Jameson mounted on the back. …
Amerika is krunk. Amerika is funk. Amerika is junk. Amerika is Lil’ Jon having sex with Lady Liberty. …
Rationalism is what birthed this country, but it morphed into utter irrationality. Thomas Paine became Spongebob and Spongebob is Thomas Paine.
I think I’ll just leave it at that. Oh, there’s more — much, much more — in Jay’s little manifesto, but my poor brain can only take in so much in one sitting without exploding.
NOTE: I discovered Jay’s essay through a link on MGTOWforums.com; the dude posting the link described it as “one of the best essays about feminism and life in the US … By far one of the most accurate essays I have ever had the pleasure of reading.” It got a mixed reaction; the consensus seemed to be that while he made some good points, Jay might just be a little too obsessed with Aleister Crowley and the Masons.
EDITED TO ADD: Also, if middle-aged women want to wear some sort of “Montana garb,” I’d suggest they go with Patsy, not Hannah. Patsy Montana was awesome!
he’s an egotistical prick who enjoys igniting debates and then citing obscure books in an attempt to claim victory.
Seems a fairly garden variety troll to me!
@ Druid
Can we please refrain from suggesting that people are jerks/conspiracy theorists/pompous because of how much sex they’re having? :-/
So Jay is a doofus who like to post pseudo intellectual word salad? How is that different from most MRAs?
And how does sex or lack of same enter into things? Plenty of MRAs are married or have girlfriends, whom they presumably have sex with. That does not seem to have an effect on the misogyny at all.
Jay, re Satire:
Definition of SATIRE
1: a literary work holding up human vices and follies to ridicule or scorn
2: trenchant wit, irony, or sarcasm used to expose and discredit vice or folly
U R duin it WRONG.
My apologies Viscaria.
Is somebody speaking about themselves in the third person? o_O
Jay: I’m willing to bet none of you have even read a page of Brzezinski.
Bet lost.
The sad part is… your argument about the merit of your work boils down to, “I tell you it’s fuckin’ brill, and if you understood how brill it was you’d see. But you aren’t smart enough to understand me.”
Bathos, not satire, in support, Can anyone here interact with any real data and evidence, or are you all only capable of ad hominem fallacies?
Show the class where these ad hominem have taken place.
So Jay is a doofus who like to post pseudo intellectual word salad? How is that different from most MRAs?
Maybe I don’t have as much experience debating MRAs, but most of them seem to spout the same Spearhead bullshit time after time. Jay does that too, but he also likes to throw in some more “esoteric” stuff like Kabbala or Rosicrucianism and take philosophers like Heidegger and Nietzche wildly out of context (not that either of those guys are super-feminist writers). Maybe that’s more common than I realized?
And how does sex or lack of same enter into things? Plenty of MRAs are married or have girlfriends, whom they presumably have sex with. That does not seem to have an effect on the misogyny at all.
Fair enough. I was just picking up on what seemed like a lot of sublimated sexual tension in his writing. Maybe that says more about me than Jay. I guess that was kind of anti-ace of me, too. Point taken.
As for people questioning my name? You got me. I’m not actually a gay druid marxist. But really… it’s just a screen name that I obviously lifted from Jay’s rant and the jokes in the comments here. For what it’s worth, I am gay. And pretty left-of-center, but not full-blown Marxist. Definitely not a druid though. So I’m two-for-three.
Druid, sublimated sexual content is everywhere! So fair enough. What brought you here? I am curious to know, it just seemed strange to have you show up so close on Jays heels.
Jay: That quotation (noun, not verb, I know it can be confusing keeping the grammatical quirks of English straight. I commend the study of Russian for anyone who should like to attain better mastery; though it does tend to reinforce the use of parenthetical asides), exists.
Now, explain please just what relevance it’s existence has. Put it into a greater context and show how it supports; in objective fact the subjective conclusions you are trying to make people accept; just by merit of those banal truisms being written down.
Further, explain why the rambling account of the geopolicitical culture of more than 45 years ago is topically relevant to the social decay you are alleging is the result of outgroups (marxists/feminists/homosexuals) at the time it was being written.
As to William Cohen (have you met him, he’s an interesting fellow. I got to talk with him some when he was in Ukraine in 1997, taking part in Operation Peace Shield; in which I was a participant/took part in planning for ten yearn) and again, nothing in that quotation is new, suprising or topical to the post we are discussing.
In short, you are spinning your wheels. The piling on of non-related facts doesn’t help your case (neither the poppycock in the first post, nor your petulant attempts to present that stream of incoherent drivel as satire).
Best to retire from the field when you can still make the legitimate claim of only suffering a flesh wound.
I was wondering that, pillowinhell, and I was thinking there might be an obvious reason, if regular readers of Jay’s blog were made aware of Man Boobz by virtue of Jay’s follow-up post, where he called David and the commentariat here moronic collective zombies. But that article doesn’t cite anything from here, it doesn’t link here, there’s no trace of a pingback from Manboobz on the threads David linked to, nor did the commenters from here who left calling cards at Jay’s blog identify themselves as Manboobzers, so all in all it’s a bit of a mystery how Gay Druid Marxist got here.
soooo you know about about this guy. You can list things he has read, what he has done, his debate tactics, his sexual experience, and I am assuming you followed him here.
You supposedly don’t like him but at the same time he is a “genius” and “atypical”.
I am just going to leave this comic here….
http://harkavagrant.com/index.php?id=327
I smell Sprezzaturic Chaos.
Xanthe
Well, between Druid popping outta nowhere and the name dropping Jay is also prone to doing… I tend to be suspicious of name dropping, its usually used to put people in their place or to steal the attributes of the person who’s name has been dropped. There’s a lot to question about Druid, but it could just be that my bullshit detector is too sensitive. Others here have more succinctly summed up the other misgivings I have. Hopefully, it will turn out that my first impression was mistaken and I’ll have to apologize.
At this point I can see a few explanations:
– Druid is Jay. (very high probability) If we’re in a Mary Higgins Clark’s novel, it’s probably another of his personality, if not, he’s a sockpuppet.
– Druid is Jay’s stalker/number one fan.
– Druid is Jay’s big brother, who lurked into his browser’s historic.
So, where did you find the link to Manboobz, Gay Druid? Because “A male-run feminist sort of I don’t know what blog” is a very tiny hint to find us.
Okay, I am finally coming out of lurking to give the MHC reference the love it deserves. Kyrie, that was brilliant.
What would my teen years have been without her and her daughter? (Probably more productive and/or better read, but I am going to indulge my nostalgia and pretend it would have been way more crying, which because I was really depressed is like bathtubs of tears.)
There, the best introduction I could ever have, right?