Here’s a little one-question quiz to see how much you know about Reddit’s Atheism subreddit.
QUESTION ONE: A woman describes being raped by a “friend” while both were intoxicated (though she doesn’t call it rape). Do the r/atheism regulars:
a) Respond with sympathy and support
b) Attack her and furiously downvote her posts, with the assistance of one of the moderators of r/mensrights, then return to posting and upvoting rape jokes
BONUS QUESTION: True or False: Someone on r/menrights links to her comment as “an example of how and why many people believe that rape is everywhere… because their definition of rape includes every sexual misadventure.” The most heavily upvoted comment in the r/mensrights thread declares that the woman who was raped “sounds like a delusional sheltered teen.”
Yes, the correct answers here are the ones you assumed were correct.
Here’s the woman’s post describing what happened to her.
She gives more details on what happened in other, also-highly-downvoted comments.
One highly upvoted rape joke from elsewhere in the thread:
Hilarious!
Amazingly, despite all the jokes and the victim blaming/attacking going on, the thread also contains some highly upvoted comments lamenting the tendency of people to blame the victim in rape cases. Apparently, when a rape victim is drunk, it’s not rape, even when she repeatedly says “no” and gives in because she’s scared, so it’s fine to attack away, and even to accuse the victim of being a rapist too.
This enables Reddit Atheists not only to blame the victim of rape without feeling guilty, or admitting that this is what they’re doing, while simultaneously feeling self-righteous in their condemnation of religious people doing the exact same thing.
And because their rape jokes are also couched as jokes about religious people’s views on rape, they can feel self-righteous while making them too.
Sometimes the actions of Reddit Atheists cause me to begin to doubt just a teensy weensey bit that “atheists are a community that’s pre-selected for clear thinking and empiricism,” as one commenter in r/mensrights put it not that long ago.
EDITED TO ADD: Thanks again to ShitRedditSays for highlighting this awful thread.
EDITED TO ADD 2: More SRS discussion, courtesy of Holly.
Well, well, well. The jackass crew is still vomiting out hatred.
Yeah, but we’re making fun of them so it’s not so bad.
Cya losers.
Is that a promise? Do you give your word you aren’t coming back?
There IS a God, and he’s answered our prayers.
good lord he actually believes there are California spa prisons….there are no words.
Why do you think we would have a problem with this?
“Anyhoo, I figure since this thread is about alcohol and sex we can let science guide us to a brave new world of equality. Anytime sex occurs and alcohol is involved, the person with the highest alcohol content is the “vicitm.” Since the entire reasoning behind the whole rape aspect is loss of ones faculties. The person with the lowest blood alcohol content would be the responsible party.”
NWO takes another dump on our porch. Bad boy.
One guy?
@blitzgal
Women are natural luddites, so they need some poor mangina to implement their devious plan
Also, what’s this drive-by bullshit? I thought you were the last hard working man in the West NWO!! You’re getting lazy
The whole “if he’s drinking too she’s just as guilty” line, if applied to, say DWI, would mean that drunk pedestrians hit by drunk drivers would also have to be charged with a crime.
yep, the atheist community has creepy jerks too. Came across some on youtube as well, creepy fuckers to the core. (though I should stress that many youtube atheists that I have come across seem quite sane and friendly, and I am penpals with one of them, so there are both good apples and bad apples)
@Quackers
There are, but none that can be used in even mildly polite society
Oh, wait, I forgot for a second that I was dealing with NWOSlave. He’s not saying “having sex with someone who’s drunk to the point of impairment is rape regardless of whether you’re drunk yourself, and it’s possible to enforce this in an egalitarian way”, which is absolutely true and which we would support. He’s saying “men who have sex with a woman who’s had so much as a one sip of a wine cooler get instantly dragged off to prison for 10 to 15 years without so much as a trial, and you dirty feminists wouldn’t be so eager to have Big Daddy enforce his misandric ‘rape laws’ for you if it happened to women, too.”
Did I translate correctly?
I guess the first wave feminists/2nd wave feminists must have not existed in nwo’s world… Feminism and feminists has existed before the internet, how do you explain that??? Are all those feminists that existed back then were robots being controlled by one guy? O_O
(jumbo can conspirasize too! :D)
There are, but you know what they say about what the bad apples do to the barrel. It all comes down to how the “good apples” respond when the bad apples do something rotten.
“Rape” is defined by men rather than women, today some of toxic women are misusing this word. These toxic women are stealing words related to sexuality and using them for spreading out an unpleasant attitude towards male sexuality and male sex drive.
Actually, since I’ve just been revising rape policy, I know how “rape by intoxication” is defined in most of the nation’s colleges. If one person is so drunk or high they don’t know the basic details of the interaction, such as who you are, where they are, and what they’re doing, having sex with them is rape. In general, if someone is at “throwing up constantly, going in and out of consciousness” levels of intoxication, it is assumed they are drunk enough not to know what they are doing.
None of this applies to the lady in the OP, because SHE SAID NO, and if you say no it is rape regardless of your drinking status.
@Seraph
Nice try, but unfortunately there is no translation. It ran off with the context.
I’ve come around somewhat. EN you actually ARE an amusing little shit.
Also NWO weren’t you saying before about how “big daddy gov” is feminist and unfair to all men who live under its rule? Now suddenly feminists don’t exist???
Which is it NWO?
Seraph, I’m not sure, but I think most of the creepy atheists I’ve come across were not very popular, so didn’t get a lot of backlash due to not getting a lot of video views.
some of them are relatively popular though, and they get quite a few debating challenges from the good apples. Pretty much, Atheists argue amongst themselves just as much as feminists due.
Ozy – it is also no regardless of whether or how much you fight. If you say no, the other person proceeds, and you let them because you don’t want to make them angry, then that is rape, because you said no and they went ahead anyway.
I would say “I don’t understand why some people find this so difficult,” but I don’t think that’s actually the case. I think they choose to willfully ignore it.
I meant to type “do” with that last word in my last post. my bad.
EN: You know what causes an unpleasant attitude towards sexuality?
RAPE.
Those sound fun, kind of like having S&M after the pedi-medi.
okay, after Explore Nature gets criticized, let’s make a bet.
will he or will he not respond.
I’m putting my top internet dollar on he will not.
“but officer my friend was asleep and unaware, it’s not my fault I stole his TV, he should have been awake to stop me if he didn’t want me too!”
“but officer that man was walking in a bad neighborhood, he should have expected me to steal his wallet…wait why are you arresting me?!”
Why are they always so quick to defend the person taking advantage of someone in their weak moments? why are the above scenarios so ludicrous but raping an intoxicated person, let alone one who did say no is seen as ok? I seriously would not surprised if these redditors have raped or sexually assaulted women before.