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Actual discussion taking place on Reddit’s Men’s Rights subreddit

Just another day on r/mensrights, dealing with the terrible injustices facing men today in a thoughtful and compassionate way.

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hellkell
hellkell
12 years ago

Ashley doesn’t post here because you can’t sockpuppet to save your life, and she’s just as boring as you, Mr. IT Wizard.

You’re right, sex is a part of life, but most of us bring it where applicable, not a totally unrelated discussion. Makes you look desperate. Makes Ashley look faker. Makes you look like a crap lay.

Keep fucking that chicken!

belledame222
12 years ago

Look, even imaginary people have feelings.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
12 years ago

@Brandon:

I have a question, actually, since I haven’t actually seen this conversation from start to finish…

Let’s say that “the majority of men value youth,” for the sake of argument, keeping in mind that “majority” can mean anything from 50.1% to 100%. Where do you go from there, exactly?

belledame222
12 years ago

87.6% of men will in fact keep fucking that chicken, even when presented with an alternative duck. TRUFAX FROM MY ASS.

ithiliana
12 years ago

@Kirby: Brandon doesn’t go anywhere, with anything. He just keeps repeating what he himself thinks/know/is, without using “I” anymore (BECAUSE DAVID PWNED HIM), but generalizing it to “most men will…” blah blah blah blah. He’s not here to mock misogyny. He’s not here to persuade us of anything–he says so right up there! He’s not here (as far as I can tell) because he enjoys what David posts, or enjoys what the rest of this very eclectic group likes to talk about when not mocking misogyny, so…….he’s here because he’s bored????

And he’s boring.

And that is Brandon. There is nowhere to go because BRANDON.

ithiliana
12 years ago

@Belledame222: most of the rest of the menz are beating that dead horse.

belledame222
12 years ago

I gather he’s here because HE JUST HAD SEX, and wishes to tell the world?

Viscaria
Viscaria
12 years ago

I’ve decided to start announcing it on Manboobz every time I get laid. It’s just a part of life, folks, people talk about this stuff all the time! Why are y’all so uptight? I think I’ll do it Hasbro’s Clue style. It was the boyfriend, in the bed, with the rabbit vibrator!

When smoking was banned inside public places here a few years ago (6 or 7 maybe?) the people who were most concerned were bar owners, who believed it would drive away a significant portion of their business. It didn’t; many smokers still come and smoke outside even in the depths of winter, and — like DSC said — people who either didn’t like or couldn’t handle the cigarette smoke are much more likely to show up.

PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth
PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth
12 years ago

I do not think those guys just had sex. For some reason…maybe because they are fully dressed?

belledame222
12 years ago

You’re supposed to get undressed?!

Lauralot
Lauralot
12 years ago

And here I thought you were supposed to have sex with both partners sharing the same clothing. The Snuggie Sutra lied to me.

Dracula
Dracula
12 years ago

Yeah, I totally get banning smoking for the sake of removing fire or health hazards. I just think saying someone can’t have a cigarette in the open air when they’re not standing anywhere near anybody, or if they’re in their own car that happens to parked at a hospital or a school is a little much.

Of course, I’m speaking from the perspective of never having had asthma or allergies, so maybe I’m just being ignorant, I don’t know. I’m glad people can’t smoke inside hospitals or restaurants or public schools or whatever. I just think we need a better compromise over the outdoors.

That being said, people who toss their cigarette butts on the ground piss me off too.

ithiliana
12 years ago

It’s hard–smoking is legal, and I know it’s an addiction (my mother had a terrible time trying to go off it for years-finally did the month before her bypass surgery–her lungs were fine, but nicotine can apparently clog arteries).

I grew up in a house during a time when most adults smoked.

But during the last twenty years or so, my allergies have increased–so much so that when I pass some of the smokers who are congregating outside the doorway (my office is the first on the right once you come in that side of the building), or when they come inside and pass me in the hallway, I can have a coughing fit just from that brief exposure. (And it’s not just smoke–pollens, dust, allergens–which in Texas seem to operate all year around, just different kinds–rageweed is especially prevalent) can set it off to, and that’s despite a maintenance dose of Zyrtec (daily).

hellkell
hellkell
12 years ago

Lauralot: LOL at The Snuggie Sutra.

Pecunium
12 years ago

Brandon: Where it went to shit was you saying men will take the younger woman, and women will take the richer man.

You argued that men will take the younger option when looking at different women (arguable) and women will take the richer man; they don’t care what age he is, and that his looks aren’t the thing they care about.

And you claimed this wasn’t about choosing a partner for a relationship, but purely how, “attractive” he was.

So the reason it went to shit is your argument was shit, and you first chose to share, then tried to defend, and now are trying to say it’s our job to prove you right.

But hey, if you like fucking chickens, it’s not my problem.

Brandon
Brandon
12 years ago

@Pecunium: Again, my argument isn’t “every single man will take the younger women over the older woman”.

It isn’t about starting a relationship. We are taking about attraction, not relationships. You know, that thing that people have PRIOR TO starting a relationship with someone. Attraction comes before relationships. Relationships are started when people are attracted to one another.

Kyrie
Kyrie
12 years ago

So? You’re still talking out of your ass Brandon. Incidentally, you also seem like you want to convince us. Funny that.
Attraction is a much more complicated thing, and has much more than two criteria.

My memory is fading. What’s the worst thing, the more hostile, that we told to “Ashley”?

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

Basically Brandon is arguing for the sake of arguing, as usual. Not worth engaging with unless it’s to mock.

hellkell
hellkell
12 years ago

Ugh, so very dull.

Pecunium
12 years ago

Ok, back to the principle of, “Brandon’s Greatest Hits”, where (as we did with marriage) remind him of what he said, so he can pretend it means something else.

But everyone else (who may have lost track in the all the story switing and goalpost moving) can see just what he said that, as opposed to what he’s telling us he means now.


It’s that a lot of women equate more money with more safety and stability.

A lot, got that. A lot

In response to that being challenged we see, . But again, it is foolish to think that NO women value safety, security or stability from men or society at large.

So a lot equal some… a percentage which is described not with any sort of reference, just Brandon saying that we would be foolish to think no women value safety, etc., and that we have to assume they will look for a rich dude to provide it.

Again, this isn’t about looks or money overriding peoples ability to reason or critically think.

Ok… so let’s compare that to the set up; the things he said which he’s trying to backpedal away from now.

The point is that if you compare one woman at two different ages, more often than not, men will find the younger one more attractive. There are always exceptions that deviate from the standard (i.e men that like chubby and/or older women). With 3+ billion men on the planet, you can always find the exception to the rule.

So here we have it, according to Brandon “Young = sexy”, and it’s so strong a trait that one has to sift among more than billion men to find the exceptions.

Except, that it’s not. He admits later, when pressed, that it’s not that hard to find men who aren’t saying, “all I want it is a young hottie”. He’s changed his tune to “a bare majority”, maybe even just, “a lot” (we don’t know where he’s getting these numbers because he expects us to do the work for him, while he sits back and has a beer and watches the game. Brandon, the Manly, Freethinking Man, has spoken and it must be true, all we have to do is Google and it shall be made plain that Brandon knows all, and tells all.

Sort of like Chuck Norris.

So, what does this font of wisdom have to say about women’s attraction?

No where did I say all women were “shallow bints” that only cared about a man’s wallet.

Hrmn… let’s check the wayback machine:

The male corollary could be money (more specifically net worth). If you take the same man and show him with his net worth (say…$100K vs $1Million), more women would choose the higher net worth. Since it is the same man either way, the man with the higher net worth is just icing on the cake.

So women aren’t shallow. They just care about a man’s wallet more than anything else.

Let’s skip ahead and see the dancing as he’s called out on this one.

The two men aren’t the same…they have different net worth’s.

Didja see that? The two men start out the same. The money is just icing on the cake, but when he’s called out for saying women are shallow materialists the men magically become two different men, but; again, the only thing which has changed is the money: but he’s totally not calling women shallow, it’s just nature (like guys and youth… can’t be helped).

Never mind that the question is stupid… if you asked me would I like to be me and have more money, the answer is probably sure. If you asked my lovers if they would love differently if I had more/less money the answer would be no.

In all probability we’d not have met, if I had a lot more money than I have now, and almost certainly if I had much less. That’s because (as with age) people tend to travel in circles where the money is within an order of magnitude of themselves. I know a few millionaires, and a few people who are so poor they are barely keeping things together, but most of my friends are in the 40,000-150,000 income range).

Back the latest Dance Craze from Boston, Brandon’s Bob and Weave.

OMG, men have standards…holy shit! Cue feminist outrage because men have the audacity to see younger women as more attractive. It’s like feminists bitch about sexual objectification because men actually don’t see them in a sexual way. Jealously is a bitch, ain’t it ladies!

That’s the crux of it. Brandon doesn’t like it when certain types of stupidity are called out. He wants to argue that this whole thing (raising the age at which British women can enter a life of prostitution) is a blow against the rights of men, effected only because women are jealous of 18 year-olds getting paid for a quickie in the corner.

But he doesn’t look down on women, oh no. He just hates the nasty feminists because they are taking away his fun (or someone’s fun… unless Brandon has changed his mind and is planning to retire to Britain, instead of Thailand, this can’t affect him)

But this is his MO. Make an egregiously broad claim. Tapdance madly to try and convince people (who are quoting him) that he said something completely different, and then (when pressed into a corner he can’t back out of) get all passive aggressive and say, “You can look it up, I don’t have to prove anything to you.”

Which is true. He doesn’t. We, of course, also don’t have to take his word for it, because he’s not any sort of authority on this. He’s a 30ish OT guy from Boston, who has proven himself to be clueless, and wrong, on a host of things from marriage, to the law, to macro-economics. The breadth of his failed claims to knowledge is stunning. A veritable polymath of willful ignorance.

In a lot of ways he puts NWO to shame. He’s in the running for DKM status, in terms of what he doesn’t know about the functioning of his pet beliefs.

Like Meller, you don’t even have to wind him. He does that himself.

Viscaria
Viscaria
12 years ago

This is pretty self-absorbed of me, I’ll admit, but my personal favourite bit of back-tracking was when he said, supposedly directly to me, supposedly in response to my words:

Also there are women in the 18-21 year old range that specifically date older men. Then there are older men that like to date 18-21 year olds…seems like they both want each other. Who are you to tell them otherwise?

And when I pointed out that I wasn’t telling anyone who they could or couldn’t date, he responded:

@Viscaria: You say you do not care, but Pecunium sees those relationships as suspect. One can not say they do not care but sees those relationships as suspect or with any form of suspicion.

If you were a woman, Pecunium, I’d say that he can tell me how I feel using your words because of the female hivemind; but as it stands, I’m at a loss.

PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth
PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth
12 years ago

Maybe if you become a mangina you get entry into the female hive mind?

Bagelsan
Bagelsan
12 years ago

Aren’t those called drones?

Pecunium
12 years ago

Viscaria: And he also failed to pay attention to what I was saying; taking my concerns about the structural problem in widely age-divergent relationships as a blanket condemnation of them; in direct contradiction of what I actually said.

It’s as if he doesn’t think anyone exists by Brandon, and only what Brandon says matters.

Brandon
Brandon
12 years ago

@Pecunium: It’s actually pretty amusing watching you get everything so wrong and twisting my words so much.

I also find it funny that you (and most of the other commenters here) think they can just demand that I provide sources…as if you were my college professor. I don’t have to prove shit to you. If you don’t agree with me, fine. People disagree all the time. Get over it.

I found one point interesting. The whole “I look down on women” bit is fairly amusing. I look down on people that demand sympathy and are always bitching about how the world is cruel to them…so basically I look down on feminists.

In fact, most of my closest friends are women and I have far more female friends than male friends. If I really looked down on them, why do they keep calling me? Why do they want to hang out with me? Why do they get annoyed if I don’t see/talk to them for a while? Why do my female neighbors constantly knock on my door to see what I am doing and if they can hang out with me? Why do they cook for me without me even asking? Why do they always flirt with me? Why do they constantly hug and kiss me? Why are they always touching me affectionately? Why do some of them respond positively to my advances?

If I really treated women like shit…then they would avoid me like the plague. They don’t. At best I repel feminists…and honestly, I am OK with that.