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Actual discussion taking place on Reddit’s Men’s Rights subreddit

Just another day on r/mensrights, dealing with the terrible injustices facing men today in a thoughtful and compassionate way.

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PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth
PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth
12 years ago

“No of course not…because when you handle a weapon for the state, you are actually a different, more mature trained in the use of that weapon person then when you are just a private citizen.”

Fixed that for you. I noticed you ignored my point about how the difference between a person who is 18 and fighting for the country they live in and anyone else at eighteen is that a person who is in the military is different due to the way they are trained to handle a weapon for the state (both in the literal use of the gun and in dealing with the concept of killing another human.)

Nowhere in that training is how to handle one’s liquor. Or last I checked anyway.

Pecunium
12 years ago

PKFAE: Wow… the things that slip past one.

“No of course not…because when you handle a weapon for the state, you are actually a different, more mature person then when you are just a private citizen.”

Hahhahahhhaahhahahahhahahahhhaha.

Oh, man…. Didn’t you say you spent time in the Army? And you can say that with a straight face? Maybe you managed to find the battalion of 19Ds who were all mature and shit, but in 16 years of playing with soldiers from I forget how many countries I didn’t see that they were fundamentally more mature for their age.

They had some things where that might seem the case, but at bottom, they are no more, nor less mature than anyone else their age.

M Dubz
M Dubz
12 years ago

@brandon: You said,
“Now just replace women with men and confidence/humor with looks.”
Now this is just silly. Are all younger women objectively more attractive than all older women in all cases? I’d just like to remind you, before you answer, that Christina Hendricks is in her 30s and Halle Berry is 45.

And also, as Cassandra keeps saying, looks totally matter to women. I care far far far more about the appearance of the guys that I sleep with than with the size of their bank accounts, since I can pay my own bills quite easily and have been financially independent for some time now. Hell, I’ve even been attracted to men who are younger than I am by several years and are college students, who are therefore both younger and poorer than me. How do you account for that?

Ami Angelwings
12 years ago

Again, I am not making claims against all of humanity. I am not saying “all men” or “all women” or “every human being on the face of the earth”. My argument deals with a subset of the population. The “majority of men” does not equal humanity. With women making up 51% of the population. And to qualify as the “majority of men” one only needs 50% of the men.

That means 50% of the other men don’t qualify o_O

Ami Angelwings
12 years ago

Like if only 50% of women are as you say, then that means 50% of the women you meet, or I meet, or Pecunium meets in every day life wouldn’t be as you say. So… how useful is this knowledge of them? o_O

Do you flip a lot of coins to my your life decisions or something? xD

Ami Angelwings
12 years ago

*Do you flip a lot of coins to make your life decisions xD

Ami Angelwings
12 years ago

Brandon has an electoral view of statistics it seems. xD If you win 50.00001% of the vote, you’re president!

M Dubz
M Dubz
12 years ago

@Ami, and if Brandon is indeed right, then what sort of predictive value does that have when interacting with people? If 49% of women don’t really care that much about money, or 49% of men are primarily attracted to women their own age, then doesn’t it make more sense to just ask people about their preferences and take them at their word? After all, statistics doesn’t prove anything when talking to an individual person about their likes and dislikes.

M Dubz
M Dubz
12 years ago

…. also, if you are getting back into the Magyc game, can I get a card? (not sure what it should be, but I am planning to go to rabbi school soon, so maybe some sort of unholy priest character?)

(is nervous because she wants to be one of the cool kids)

Ami Angelwings
12 years ago

@M Dubz sure! I’ll figure something out 😀

And as I said, Brandon must make all his decisions by flipping coins.

M Dubz
M Dubz
12 years ago

😀 I am one of the cool kids! Thank you!

Also, maybe Brandon is a mysogyny Two-Face. Heads: women totally suck, tails, men are better than women in every way!

Pecunium
12 years ago

M Dubz? Where is the school you are thinking of attending?

ithiliana
12 years ago

@Pecunium: So when pressed on his logic, the apparently inherent, “because I think so” which seems to underlie all his opinions will come to the fore, because he is unwilling to use outside sources/submit his thinking to rational analysis.

And that is only one reason why watching the poor boy being pushed into corners is soooooooo delicious. I see he’s now retreating to the tried’n’true: “we won’t change each other’s opinion” attempted escape.

David pwned Brandon!

Brandon
Brandon
12 years ago

@Cassandra: I never said women don’t care about men’s looks.

@Ozy: Weak willed, boring women are fine if you just a quickie fuck. Dating her is a separate issue.

@Elizabeth: Ya…and in a lot of states you need to take a training course to handle handguns as well. Your point?

@Pecunium: And you complain to me about reading comprehension. Go back to my last comment and re read the few lines above “No of course not…”. As you will see, it was dialog between a hypothetical person rationalizing having multiple ages of majority and myself. The point was to show how ludicrous having an 18 for military, 21 for civilian age requirement on handguns is.

M Dubz: Nothing is going to apply to “all women” or “all men”. We are talking averages, means, and percentages.

Also this isn’t directly about looks, but young vs old. As women age, they, on average get less attractive physically. A 30 year old woman is going to look younger and better looking than a 50 year old woman most of the time. (there are always exceptions to the rules)

How do I account for that? Easy….in mathematics and statistics it is called “standard deviation”.

@Ami: Fine…50.0001%

@ithiliana: No what is absurd is everyone trying to prove that youth doesn’t matter and that men don’t value young women vs older women.

If you took 1000 35 year old men, do you really think the majority would be clamoring to date 50-55 year old women as opposed to 21-25 year old women? Do you really think that 500+ of those men would exert the same amount of energy trying to date and sleep with a 50 year old vs a 25 year old?

Lastly, I have moved past “trying to change one’s opinions”. I state my opinion and if you don’t agree, that is your problem…not mine.

Ami Angelwings
12 years ago

@Ami: Fine…50.0001%

Then my point stands 😀 If majority means “50.0001%” it hardly speaks about any sort of trends since 49.9999% don’t want that.

As women age, they, on average get less attractive physically

To you.

To pedophiles, on average they might get less attractive physically around like 10…

I’m unsure of why your opinion becomes fact xD

Ami Angelwings
12 years ago

If you took 1000 35 year old men, do you really think the majority would be clamoring to date 50-55 year old women as opposed to 21-25 year old women?

That’s a weird gap there o_O

If you took 1000 35 year old men, do you really think the majority would be clamoring to date 6-12 year olds as opposed to 30-40 year olds?

How about 1-10 year olds. 35 year old men are MUCH MUCH MUCH less likely to want to date 1-10 year olds than 50 year olds…

xD

Therefore by Brandon logic, men actually like older women! 😀

Nephrite Yeqon
Nephrite Yeqon
12 years ago

Lastly, I have moved past “trying to change one’s opinions”. I state my opinion and if you don’t agree, that is your problem…not mine.

That is the best strategy with these squirrel-heads.

Joanna
12 years ago

“As women age, they, on average get less attractive physically”

Are you saying you wouldn’t tap Halle Berry? Heck, I’d tap Halle Berry!

hellkell
hellkell
12 years ago

So men get better looking as they age?

Keep fucking that chicken, Brandon.

Ami Angelwings
12 years ago

Brandon believes physical attractiveness of men doesn’t exist for women and it is just about success/wittiness/personality. e_e Convenient huh? xD

Joanna
12 years ago

“Brandon believes physical attractiveness of men doesn’t exist for women and it is just about success/wittiness/personality. e_e Convenient huh? xD”

In which case, Brandon is at a loss.

hellkell
hellkell
12 years ago

Very convenient for him, but sadly untrue. Maybe some day he’ll grow up and learn how the world works. I won’t hold my breath.

PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth
PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth
12 years ago

@Elizabeth: Ya…and in a lot of states you need to take a training course to handle handguns as well. Your point?

It apparently flew over your head. Amazing wings that point had. We may never see it again.

Also, you are an idiot but you knew that already even if you just cannot admit it.

ithiliana
12 years ago

Take 1000 women and ask how many would date a Brandon……………..SCIENCE!

Ami Angelwings
12 years ago

Brandon, what did you think Elizabeth’s point is? -_-

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