Today in Did That Really Get 196 Upvotes on Reddit: A Redditor claiming to be the owner of a brothel in Thailand explains how what he euphemistically calls the “problems in the sex industry” are mostly the fault of evil, lazy whores. Literally.
Let’s join the discussion already in progress. (ChaChaKrahp is the alleged brothel owner.)
A little further on in the discussion he makes this charming claim:
According to him, sex trafficking isn’t really a big issue, but when it does occur it “is more likely to victimize men” than women. (The main victims in his mind being trafficked men (by which I assume he means transwomen) … and male sex tourists.)
Those poor, poor Western sex tourists, suffering so at the hands of women and girls who’ve been kidnapped and sold into sex slavery!
But let’s just put this whole “trafficking” thing out of our heads. As ChaChaKrahp explains it, prostitution in Thailand is just a way for lazy ladies to make money. It’s totally on the up and up – “[j]ust like college girls in the US that work as strippers for $300 per night instead of picking strawberries for $50 per day.”
The only real problem is all those evil ladies ripping off dudes.
Did that last bit sound a little … MRAish to you?
Though this discussion isn’t in the Men’s Rights subreddit., ChaChaKrahp shares a lot of opinions and obsessions with the MRA crowd, peppering the discussion with MRA talking points on everything from dangerous jobs and breast cancer funding to false rape accusations and paternity fraud. While he claims not to “give a shit about MRA groups,” he links to prominent Father’s Rights site fathersandfamilies.com, and rails endlessly about the evils of feminism. He walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.
While ChaChaKrahp seems quite sincere in his beliefs, this is the Internet, and so there’s a chance that this “brothel owner” is not actually a brothel owner at all, just some dude making this all up for Reddit karma points and lulz.
Even if that’s the case, we still have all those hundreds of Redditors who read his comments and happily upvoted them, either because they thought what he said was sensible or true, or because the thought of owning a brothel in Thailand gave them boners.
The question remains: does Reddit attract the worst representatives of those in its heavily young, male, geek demographic, or is this how most of these (mostly) guys really think — even if they don’t usually say so out loud?
(Thanks to ShitRedditSays for pointing me to this lovely thread.)
EDITED TO ADD: Brothel Owner under attack (by a few people)! Send in the r/mensrights upvote brigade to upvote him even more than he’s already being upvoted!!!
I’m not sure what MRAL imagines “mainstream society” consists of, but I’m pretty sure quite a few people here could make some entertaining guesses.
Okay, he wanted to murder someone, and changed his mind. I’m not trying to gloss anything over.
The woman who was nearly murdered may find it to be a big deal.
People of good conscience find it to be a big deal.
You do realise that murder, i.e. killing people, is a Big Deal, don’t you? And not usually a Good Idea?
It’s very strange. I have very different feelings regarding racial inequalities, xenophobia, gay rights, all that stuff… namely, I have no problem with them. I’ll fully cop to being a privileged white straight American.
@Cassandra
Yeah there’s something very smarmy about him I don’t like. It’s like he’s using feminism to alleviate his guilt or to prove to himself he’s a good person…I dunno. Something about him is arrogant and self serving. I don’t really bother reading his stuff. I certainly don’t hate him, if anything I’m just “meh” about him. But that’s the impression I get from his online persona…arrogant.
I really hope that doesn’t mean what I parsed it to mean.
MRAL, clarify please – when you say “I have no problem with them,” do you mean you have no problem acknowledging that there are disparities, or that you don’t mind that the disparities exist?
You did gloss over it because your whole post was about how you can sympathise with his suicidal bad trip and so you didn’t find the post that bad. People found the post bad because he wanted to take someone else with. Like Cassandra said (pun intended), if it had just been an attempted suicide, decent people would have been extremely sympathetic. It’s the murder part that sticks in everyone’s craw
Quakers, Hugo’s writing was gross long before the murder attempt confession. Entirely too much “look at me, I alone am atoning for the sins of men crap”
Right, because if Valenti, or Marcotte, or Digby (you know the woman who kept her internet persona neuter for years, because that way she didn’t get the hate mail and the death threats), had confessed to committing attempted murder of a man… that shit would have been ignored.
And… what with the “(for once)”?
I think he’s saying he has no problem accepting his racial privilege, it’s “male disposability” that he’s hopped up on
You can probably identify with them because race and homophobia affect men too. You don’t relate with feminist issues because you don’t identify with women, nor do you like them. Basically, you’re a misogynist turd.
Right, not that it shouldn’t be objectionable. But my point is that being really under the influence is fucking crazy. You are not in your right mind, to say the least. Now, the fact that he was taking all that shit is his fault, but at the same time, I don’t see how it can be spun as anything other than extreme irresponsibility.
I think what the ass means is that he isn’t hostile towards people who fight against those issues, whereas he’s hostile to feminists because he hates women.
Schwyzer got so much hate mail he posted IP addresses of a bunch of people. Kind of shoots down that theory, Pecunium.
MRAL, does it strike you as weird at all that you absolutely hated this man… until you heard that he was being attacked for wanting to kill a woman?
@Bostonian
I honestly never read much of his stuff. The stuff I did read was too stuck up so I stopped.
@MRAL:
Hatemail is not a zero-sum game.
What theory… that he is being treated differently than a woman would be? Look at you, the attempted murder… you don’t give a shit.. it was all the drugs and the depression.
Amanda Marcotte says she thinks the Duke Boys commited rape and she’s still getting hate mail and death threats years later.
Pull the other one.
You seem to be shooting down a theory that Pecunium didn’t put forward
@lowquacks
shhh, you’ll summon NWO
@lowquacks
it’s like they found a common bond in hurting women!
kinda like when racist MRAs will accept non-white MRAs. The common ground? hating women!
No, I still hate him, but looking at it objectively- and treating Hugo as a prototypical Male Feminist, ignoring his individual views- this is pretty pathetic, e-witch hunting of the highest order.
Quackers, it’s because your brother is normal. This MRAL idiot gets super high on edibles and wants to take his nose off with a pair of pliers.