Today in Did That Really Get 196 Upvotes on Reddit: A Redditor claiming to be the owner of a brothel in Thailand explains how what he euphemistically calls the “problems in the sex industry” are mostly the fault of evil, lazy whores. Literally.
Let’s join the discussion already in progress. (ChaChaKrahp is the alleged brothel owner.)
A little further on in the discussion he makes this charming claim:
According to him, sex trafficking isn’t really a big issue, but when it does occur it “is more likely to victimize men” than women. (The main victims in his mind being trafficked men (by which I assume he means transwomen) … and male sex tourists.)
Those poor, poor Western sex tourists, suffering so at the hands of women and girls who’ve been kidnapped and sold into sex slavery!
But let’s just put this whole “trafficking” thing out of our heads. As ChaChaKrahp explains it, prostitution in Thailand is just a way for lazy ladies to make money. It’s totally on the up and up – “[j]ust like college girls in the US that work as strippers for $300 per night instead of picking strawberries for $50 per day.”
The only real problem is all those evil ladies ripping off dudes.
Did that last bit sound a little … MRAish to you?
Though this discussion isn’t in the Men’s Rights subreddit., ChaChaKrahp shares a lot of opinions and obsessions with the MRA crowd, peppering the discussion with MRA talking points on everything from dangerous jobs and breast cancer funding to false rape accusations and paternity fraud. While he claims not to “give a shit about MRA groups,” he links to prominent Father’s Rights site fathersandfamilies.com, and rails endlessly about the evils of feminism. He walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.
While ChaChaKrahp seems quite sincere in his beliefs, this is the Internet, and so there’s a chance that this “brothel owner” is not actually a brothel owner at all, just some dude making this all up for Reddit karma points and lulz.
Even if that’s the case, we still have all those hundreds of Redditors who read his comments and happily upvoted them, either because they thought what he said was sensible or true, or because the thought of owning a brothel in Thailand gave them boners.
The question remains: does Reddit attract the worst representatives of those in its heavily young, male, geek demographic, or is this how most of these (mostly) guys really think — even if they don’t usually say so out loud?
(Thanks to ShitRedditSays for pointing me to this lovely thread.)
EDITED TO ADD: Brothel Owner under attack (by a few people)! Send in the r/mensrights upvote brigade to upvote him even more than he’s already being upvoted!!!
Oh right, and I forgot to add a disclaimer that all the songs I posted blow goats because my ladyparts prevent me from liking good music. Sound filters through the vagina or something else. (That sounds so victorian.)
Well, wayyy past reasonable bed time! Nite all
I was going to go with Obscure too, but I’m used to people wanting to revoke my feminist card for that one. But hey, if we’re posting NSFW videos, this one is basically softcore BSDM porn, and that’s why I like it.
I’m pretty much done with the band in general though. I didn’t bother to go see them this time even though the tickets would have been free/press. I was glad when they stopped trying so hard to shock, it was getting tiresome, but the “look how shocking we are!” thing seems to have been replaced by a wall of blah, and that’s really not an improvement.
@ Shadow
It depends on the specific genre, who it’s marketed to, and how powerful the performer is. Some have total control over their image, some have none at all, and the younger the artist and their audience is the less control they’re likely to have.
“Sound filters through the vagina or something else. (That sounds so victorian.)”
Actually that sounds like the genesis of yet another NSFW video for me. If only they still had enough of a sense of humor to do it.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Radiohead.
Hee.
Oh dear. MRAL just described me.
Run away, MRAL! I’m fat! And poly! And not really a girl! Flee, these blue blue eyes are not for thee! This waist-long hair shall but entangle thy soul!
Also does anyone remember where the article about Marilyn Manson going door to door trying to shock people was? I should dig that up. It may have been on The Onion.
Yeah, that was on the Onion.
There is this novel medium that you may have heard of, the television set. I suggest using someone’s and watching approximately 10 minutes of pretty much anything. You will see how very, very wrong you are. HEll, male celebrities don’t even generally have the beauty requisites women generally do.
*YOU* are a loser, but a big part of that is that you have no friends and troll manboobz instead of getting on with your life. Frankly, from your description I’d probably be physically attracted to you, *but then you open your mouth and end all chances of that continuing*, because your opinions are fucking stupid as well as hateful.
Seriously, just flutter off, you waste of organic matter.
I’m late to the thread but I didn’t see this mentioned yet – one of the reasons the fake brothel owner has so many upvotes is because the thread was invaded by /mensrights.
That’s right, MRAs managed to “mobilize” themselves…. to defend a pretend pimp. How very courageous of them.
On the subject of music, I have a soft spot for Bateman pop, and this is a song about Every Woman Ever according to the MRM:
Maybe that’s how to get them to DC! Tell them that there’s a man who sells sex with 14 year olds there, and he needs their help.
You know, supporting rape, coercion, trafficking, child prostitution, etc. isn’t being pro-sex work, it’s being pro-rape and slavery. Of course, since your average MRA is pro-rape and pro-enslavement of women and children, it is no surprise where they stand.
On the subject of ugly men all being losers by default…
Hey MRAL, check out the singer of this band. He’s a pretty big deal in the punk and goth scenes, used to be in a band called the Dead Boys that would make most lists of essential classic punk bands. So anyway, take a look at him. Ugly guy, right? Not just plain or ordinary looking, actually ugly (check out the still pics when the video ends – seriously, he was not an attractive man at all). And yet – hugely influential, adored by many, including the shallowest woman in the world (me, obviously). Not a loser in any way, despite not being anyone’s idea of a conventionally handsome man. (He was also short, and scrawny, and generally un Pitt-like.)
Also, speaking of ugly musicians…what about Thom Yorke? He’s often described by the music press as looking like a troll. Is he a loser? I wouldn’t say so. He’s rich and famous and happily partnered with a woman who loves him and again, adored by many. Everyone I’ve ever met who’s worked with him has liked him. Cool guy, Thom, but yep, kind of ugly.
You personally may well be a loser, but if so it’s not because you’re ugly, and the way you behave here really isn’t helping to change that situation. In fact your self-pity and refusal to get therapy is pretty much guaranteeing that your situation is only going to get worse over time.
What a surprise, I miss all the fun. To whoever posted Manic Street Preachers: *fist bump*
Also:
In a few years, MRAL will be like this guy :
No, it’s more extreme for men. Ugly men are losers and that’s it, basically.
Number one rule of MRA fight club is “Hypergamy” ie money
Second rule of MRA fight club is “Game” ie personality
MRA’s don’t talk about rule number 3 “Hot men” because “females are more turned on by emotions than visual stimulus” (ie fundamental christian’s advocating conservative dress/modesty for FEMALES only because females could never be turned on by hot men taking off their shirts?)
THEY PAINT THEIR NAILS BLACK! THEY CHANGE THEIR FUCKING HEADS!
…Oh, that’s a great video.
@MRAL: A female professor having inappropriate intimate (not necessarily even sleeping with just kissing) her students was the first one charged with her university’s new sexual harassment policy:
Jane Gallop
She was a big name psychoanalytic feminist theorist, and it made major news.
You don’t know anything about it, as usual, and you just assume from what you think that nothing would ever happen to a woman, or a feminist, because you don’t know shit.
Trust me–there was major discussion esp. among academic feminists, about the Gallop case.
I personally am fairly anti-psychoanalytic feminism, and have read gallop, and have some real issues (oversimplified, her theory that graduate students and faculty are like patients/doctors, transference, etc., I think is in academic terms problematic).
So as usual: you claim X based on your THINKY THOUGHTS, and are proved wrong.
Aren’t you getting tired of it?
(Remember Schwyzer wasn’t even in trouble at his college since they didn’t have a policy against consensual student/teacher sex.)
TLC rewind 🙂
And yet another thread derailed by MRAL whining about how unattractive he feels.
And that’s the reason he comes here.
Oh yeah. The Hugo thing. I just caught up last week. So yeah, the friend let his dog outside in an area frequented by coyotes by accident and freaked out. And then the dog returned, unharmed, after 25 minutes. But, he still felt guilty.
So, Hugo uses this as a springboard for a blog post on how he almost murdered his ex girlfriend but luckily some neighbor checked in and saved them before the gas killed them both. (Someone later found an earlier version of the story where he did not, in fact, call a friend before the neighbor smelled gas, p.s.) although he didn’t mention the girlfriend in that one, just the suicide attempt. I can only assume he made the connection because “phew, that was a close one!” And the title was something about how to forgive yourself.
it’s like Stuart Smalley from hell.
Oh, and MRAL? You’re entirely full of shit, not that others haven’t said. There’s no “double standard.” There’s no equivalent here, first of all-find some feminist who nearly murdered her boyfriend, slept with her male students, and “accidentally” raped someone and still has a career, let alone beaming approval by much of the blogosphere, and then we’ll talk. Second, you have *no* idea how the feminist sphere works. Hell, *I’ve* been far nastier to Amanda Marcotte for much less (and regret some of it, although I still don’t like her. still, calling her out over racist book jackets and other bullshit is one thing; unabashed vitriol was my stuff, mainly). I wasn’t the only one either, point being. Feminists eat each other *all the time,* being human and political. Hugo has had a *cakewalk.*
Can I just suggest again that banning MRAL might be therapeutic for him as well as the regulars?
Poor oppressed Rush Limbaugh/Newt Gingrich/any fucking number of powerful rich white dudes with combovers and jowls and grey skin and mouths that pucker smaller than a chicken’s asshole. I weep for them, I deeply sympathize.