Today in Did That Really Get 196 Upvotes on Reddit: A Redditor claiming to be the owner of a brothel in Thailand explains how what he euphemistically calls the “problems in the sex industry” are mostly the fault of evil, lazy whores. Literally.
Let’s join the discussion already in progress. (ChaChaKrahp is the alleged brothel owner.)
A little further on in the discussion he makes this charming claim:
According to him, sex trafficking isn’t really a big issue, but when it does occur it “is more likely to victimize men” than women. (The main victims in his mind being trafficked men (by which I assume he means transwomen) … and male sex tourists.)
Those poor, poor Western sex tourists, suffering so at the hands of women and girls who’ve been kidnapped and sold into sex slavery!
But let’s just put this whole “trafficking” thing out of our heads. As ChaChaKrahp explains it, prostitution in Thailand is just a way for lazy ladies to make money. It’s totally on the up and up – “[j]ust like college girls in the US that work as strippers for $300 per night instead of picking strawberries for $50 per day.”
The only real problem is all those evil ladies ripping off dudes.
Did that last bit sound a little … MRAish to you?
Though this discussion isn’t in the Men’s Rights subreddit., ChaChaKrahp shares a lot of opinions and obsessions with the MRA crowd, peppering the discussion with MRA talking points on everything from dangerous jobs and breast cancer funding to false rape accusations and paternity fraud. While he claims not to “give a shit about MRA groups,” he links to prominent Father’s Rights site fathersandfamilies.com, and rails endlessly about the evils of feminism. He walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.
While ChaChaKrahp seems quite sincere in his beliefs, this is the Internet, and so there’s a chance that this “brothel owner” is not actually a brothel owner at all, just some dude making this all up for Reddit karma points and lulz.
Even if that’s the case, we still have all those hundreds of Redditors who read his comments and happily upvoted them, either because they thought what he said was sensible or true, or because the thought of owning a brothel in Thailand gave them boners.
The question remains: does Reddit attract the worst representatives of those in its heavily young, male, geek demographic, or is this how most of these (mostly) guys really think — even if they don’t usually say so out loud?
(Thanks to ShitRedditSays for pointing me to this lovely thread.)
EDITED TO ADD: Brothel Owner under attack (by a few people)! Send in the r/mensrights upvote brigade to upvote him even more than he’s already being upvoted!!!
Lady Gaga- ugly (oh wait, forgot it was only women/Cassandra allowed to say this)
Nicki Minaj- all plastic.
Rihanna- Eh. She doesn’t really push my buttons. I like pale women.
@Quackers
pffttt to that. You know Amy Lee got dem alpha boys howling!!
my 2nd fav sad song
@Cassandra
and then they say women are the ones with impossible standards?
then the next day they’ll be whining on reddit about how no one wants to fuck them.
Lady Gaga isn’t really ugly, just comparatively. My point stands, I’m not especially attracted to any of them.
@CassandraSays – And I’m sure all those amazingly successful women are crying themselves to sleep on their mattresses stuffed with money because they are not considered fuckable by every single man on the plant. Also, I’m sorry, but Adele is gorgeous.
I’m still trying to recall when Cassandra said anyone was ugly. Keeping in mind that “wouldn’t fuck” and “thinks is ugly” are not equivalent.
@Shadow
Adam’s Song! I forgot about that one, love it. Amazing how it also came from a band known for their poop humor lol
MRAL, I did a three day ayahuasca ceremony in Caracas, Venezuela a few weeks ago. That shit makes your little brownie trip seem like afternoon tea with your nana.
Quackers, this is the site where women talk about how they don’t like Brad Pitt and Johnny Depp. I seriously don’t think Rihanna is that hot.
@MRAL
and no one is attracted to you, so it all works out…
too far?
“every single man on the planet”
Although that’s a pretty swell typo.
And this would no doubt confuse Mr. Meller, particularly since it’s sung by a dude:
That’s right, no one is attracted to me. I am aware of that.
My favorite boy in eyeliner is Billie Joe Armstrong. Terribly conventional of me, I know.
@David – Oh man, I love that song! I was so confused when it first came out. Is it a cover? Is he actually saying “I could never be a woman”? What is going on?
Yeah, yeah, I know a team must have made her up for 10 hours here. STILL.
@MRAL
yeah but those of us who don’t find Brad or Johnny attractive also don’t hate on half the human race for not having sex with us. That’s the difference, that dudes like you who don’t find conventionally attractive women hot also have a shit fit when women express their opinions about who they themselves don’t find hot. You’re allowed to not find actresses or singers attractive, so remember that next time you lose it like you did when Cassandra said she didn’t find Russel Brand attractive
I have plenty of examples that would confuse Meller, except they come from WOC so I don’t doubt that his standards are just a little different for them.
@Quackers
Up until the Blink 182 album, Blink rocked my socks. Also, Travis Barker is ripping it up on his work in hip hop.
@Shadow
Travis Barker is doing hip hop now?! I didn’t know that…I haven’t listened to Blink in awhile, it was kind of a highschool thing haha
MRAL – it’s not that only certain people are allowed to express negative opinions. But if you look back over this thread, you will see that people have been sharing things they think are cool, in a mutually positive way – it’s a way to bond and build community. “Here is this thing I like!” “Awesome, here is something that I like!” And sometimes those tastes will not coincide, and someone might say “well, goths don’t really do it for me, I like this other thing instead.” But it’s never about denigrating other people’s taste.
Whereas you were posting stuff about how what we liked was crap, and we ought to embrace your tastes instead. And that is not about sharing joy or building community. So when you express negative opinions, it is interpreted through your history of hostile behavior, and reacted to as such. And your history in terms of commenting on women’s appearance is not exactly stellar anyway.
Okay, actually going to bed, but sigh.
MRAL, just checking, but you know there’s a difference between being attracted to someone and having/wanting to have sex with them, right? Just because nobody’s having sex with you does not mean nobody in the whole damn world is attracted to you.
I thought my last boyfriend’s sister was crazy hot. I did not, however, want to sleep with her.
burgundy, not a cover. He wrote it and recorded it in his bedroom using sequencer software he got from a disc that came with a computer music magazine. DIY FTW!
Last time I mentioned that song online he showed up to answer questions. Let’s see if it works this time.
White Town! Your Woman! Sequencer program from a magazine!
Also, his website:
http://www.whitetown.co.uk/
And here’s his explanation for the gender-bending and the song in general:
http://www.whitetown.co.uk/faq/
There really are not a lot of catchy pop songs inspired by Reich, Dworkin, and memories of Trotskyist douchebaggery from the 80s.
I really shouldn’t casually throw “crazy” in there, that’s ableist of me and I’m sorry. I should have said super hot. Because I thought she was super, super hot.
See, “she doesn’t push my buttons” would be fine. Implying that she shouldn’t be a pop star because of that – not fine.
“Dracula | January 24, 2012 at 1:05 am I’m still trying to recall when Cassandra said anyone was ugly. Keeping in mind that “wouldn’t fuck” and “thinks is ugly” are not equivalent.”
I think that the issue is that he thinks that “wouldn’t fuck” means not only “is ugly” but also “I spit on you, your future children, your mother, and your grave”.
Are we confusing Meller now? This is way too easy.
Oh, David, I know that now. I think I was still subscribing to Rolling Stone at the time, so I didn’t even have to wait all that long to clue in. I was just a very literal teenager.