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“The dried-up vagina is a tool of the state, and population control.”

Marriage: Not an effective form of birth control.

When we first met Spearhead commenter Rmaxd, he was raving about how our technological society had rendered women obsolete. He’s back, this time taking on, well, women again, and welfare, and declining birth rates, and, well, it’s all a little bit hard to follow.

Let’s start with Rmaxd’s basic premises:

Women are serially monogamous or hypergamous & are infertile for the majority of their lives

While men are polygamous, & FERTILE for the majority of their lives

Marriage has always been used as the earliest form of birth contraception, limit the amount of children a fertile male can have, by forced mating with a single infertile woman for the rest of his life.

We are off to a bad start here. Is there anything in all that that’s correct? Among other things: marriage is most decidedly not a particularly effective form of birth control. (The show Eight is Enough was based on a real family, and I suspect we’ve all met people with enough siblings to fill a bus.) But let’s continue; Rmaxd is on a roll:

As the government can no longer force this sort of mating on infertile womens, especially in the lower moronic, under educated peasantry states,

As women want alphas,

Obviously sluts & whores, are simply mimicing infertile women, as only infertile dried up vaginas, can afford to sleep around with hundreds of men

This is why we have sluts & promiscuity, marketted to young girls today, imitate infertile women, imitate their habits, destroy your fertility, destroy your youth

A childhood of std’s & yeast infections

Yeah, I’m not even going to try to parse all that.

In any case, as Rmaxd argues, these “infertile” ladies somehow still manage to pop out a few kids when they’re young, and the evil welfare state rewards them for it:

It’s essentially birth control by sponsoring infertile women, most women have a couple of kids, basically enough to live off the welfare & free housing

As we all know, single mothers live lives of untold luxury and indolence.

What we have here is essentially welfare for infertile women, as they’re no longer able to siphon cash from enslaving men into walking wallets & their magical vagina’s a pit of std’s & warts

In the past, you see, women could enslave men by marrying them. Now they can’t get dudes to stick around, so instead they enslave men by not marrying them, raising their kids on their own with the help of welfare money. It’s all very devious.

Rmaxd would prefer that the welfare money go to the fathers:

If we had welfare for men who had kids, with different women, we would have a healthy birth rate, instead of the declining birth rate we have now … this is all about rewarding & protecting a womans sexuality over a mans sexuality

It all leads to what Rmaxd calls:

The new another dark age of female fanatical male hate,

sponsored & policed by the church of radical feminist mangina, & government

The dried up vagina, as a tool of the state & population control

This barely coherent spew of woman-hatred – and it’s even less comprehensible without my edits and annotations – still managed to draw a few upvotes from the regulars, proving that internet misogynists will upvote pretty much anything so long as it contains the requisite level of anti-woman vitriol.

In case you’re feeling especially bored this lazy Sunday, the whole Spearhead thread is a trainwreck of misogyny and racism – including some fairly obnoxious discussions of black “Welfare Queens” and Mexican immigrants from a fellow called Keyster. Does that (fake) name sound familiar? You may know him as a fairly regular contributor to A Voice for Men and the producer of the AVfM internet radio show.

 

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CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

Hey Ami, could you possibly summarise that post for us? I’m not feeling up to actually reading MRA babble at the moment, at least not of the “the government should force women to fuck me” variety. Do they basically want some comfort women-like thing?

(Now that we’ve already suggested bringing back medieval torture devices it’s time to start repeating famous war crimes!)

Jill the Spinster
Jill the Spinster
12 years ago

On Ami’s link they want the government to intervene and impose that one parent stay at home and look after the child as opposed to sending the child to childcare, then in another paragraph they are against alimony and only want the maintenance money to solely go towards the child and not the mother?

At their insistence the mother should give up her career and therefore forego savings and superannuation (retirement fund) and not get any financial compensation?

Jill the Spinster
Jill the Spinster
12 years ago

Cassandra, and of course the most important proposed law…

The Lifeboat Law

Cause MRAs want to legislate about who gets a seat on the life boat….

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

It’s always funny when they do that. If the child lives with the mother, and the mother is responsible for taking the child places, feeding the child, etc, how is that meant to work? Is the mother unable to spend the money on a car, or on gas, since technically speaking the car belongs to her and not the child? But if so, how is the child supposed to get around? Same with food, utility bills, etc.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

It’s less horrifying than I expected, though. I do keep expecting them to demand that all wome perform mandatory sexual services as an alternative to the (nonexistant) draft.

cynickal
cynickal
12 years ago

One of my ancestors… stole a lot of cows…

Mine too.
…And horses.
…And sheep.
…And women.
…And… well… what have you got?

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

About the lifeboat thing, that was actually the most baffling thing about the whole arguing with angry sexist men about the Concordia thread. Did it ever even occur to anyone else here that, if we were to come up with a standard as to who gets preference in terms of lifeboat seats right now, we should do it by gender? It didn’t for me. My brain was going, OK kids first, then elderly people and anyone who’s disabled and unlikely to be able to swim or float, then we’re going to need some caretakers for the kids and the elderly and disabled people in each boat, and then all the able bodied adults. The idea of establishing a gender quota wouldn’t even occur to me.

cynickal
cynickal
12 years ago

@Crumb

I was always told that one of my German ancestors came to America to escape arrest after killing a man in a bar fight…but then I heard a similar story from other people so I guess it’s one of those things people just say to make their ancestors seem like badasses.

Well, I hear there are lots of bars in Germany…

@David

Fun fact about Jacques Futrelle: Changed his name from Jack to Jacques, and added an “e” to his last name, to sound all fancy and French, though there was no French in him at all.

Not even after that Moulin Rouge incident? 😉

Looks like Ashley is quite the sporty type. Oh, wait. Google fails to find any Ashleys with the last name spelled *Phinn* Though Yahoo finds an Alicia Phinn, a 50 year old Pennsylvanian resident.

amandajane5
amandajane5
12 years ago

One of my great great grandfathers invented some fun things (he holds over 1000 patents,) like the fuse, and the socket to the light bulb (he was part of the Menlo Park gang, the one with the walrus mustache if you care about such things) and another founded two schools for women in the pre-Civil War South – one for white women and the other for black women. I think these things are pretty cool! I hope to do something as cool someday!

ersatzmoons
ersatzmoons
12 years ago

o_o well, that proves that Ashley is nonexistent or, at least, Brandon’s fairy tale, forever cheerful, fuck bot version of her is.

~teehee!

I would agree that him not being on manboobz for the past couple of weeks have been neat – I hated having to lurk through his me, me, me, me, me…

Molly, finding someone who comes from Bavaria is… special for me .__. albeit Atilla the Hun died around 1,600 years ago so, distantly special for me. I spent a good deal of my childhood, early teens visiting there. Whenever Bavaria is recognized I have little hurrah! moments. Also, that baby pygmy hippo is adorbz.

viola
12 years ago

One of my great-grandmothers was a scullery maid who ran off with the milkman’s boy. Her family were scandalised by the match. Apparently the marriage was below her station.

darksidecat
12 years ago

After Brandon’s last post, I think more than one ashnostic became an ashtheist.

Skyal
Skyal
12 years ago

Nobinayamu, that’s awesome. I wonder what that dude would make of me, given I’m 38 & while I am hugely overdue pregnant, I haven’t been pregnant for 3 years. 41 weeks is more than enough, thanks! 🙂 And not only that, I accidentally got pregnant, this time, anyway. Guess I’m a mutant or something? lol

chocomintlipwax
12 years ago

STDs and yeast infections?

Because not only are they whoring around, but they’re also wearing underwear that aren’t cotton. Those sluts.

(I’ve never had sex but I’ve spent a good deal of my adult life with some level of yeasty overload. Mostly to a degree that the doc finds it but I don’t notice it at all. I think my vagina just thinks that it’s bread. THERE IS NO OTHER EXPLANATION.)

I mean, I know that YIs can be passed (from men) that way, but that’s probably way down on the list after antibiotics, the pill, hormonal changes unrelated to the pill (menses, pregnancy, random-ass shit), tight clothing, the wrong underwear …

I guess that fits in with all the “infertile at 30” business. Heck, I’m 28 and what I hear an awful lot is, “But you don’t LOOK 28!” As if 28 necessarily looks any different from 20. Oh yeah, it CAN. But it’s not like we all just … remember that scene in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade where the Nazi drinks from the wrong cup? Right. It’s not like we all do THAT at age 25. Some people look pretty much the same up til 40. I don’t know where these guys are getting their advice on human aging, but … yeah, I don’t know what to do either.

Moewicus
Moewicus
12 years ago

Oh, man, I didn’t even know Brandon got banned! I must admit, though, I did have this feeling that a thousand trolling comments cried out and were suddenly silenced. Anyone care to point me to B-don’s last post?

I…I need to see it.

Xanthe
Xanthe
12 years ago

Moewicus, after this final post, David set Brandon a challenge to post without referring to himself. Suffice it to say, Brandon didn’t do very well with the challenge. Check some of the later pages of the same thread for updates.

Xanthe
Xanthe
12 years ago

One particularly hilarious update on the challenge.

Ashley Phinn, I hope you do realise that your boyfriend is such a colossal narcissist that many of the posters here doubted your very existence as one of his many fabrications (indeed, some still do) – do look after yourself!

Jill the Spinster
Jill the Spinster
12 years ago

Ashley Phinn,

BRANDON SAYS HE IS GOING TO LEAVE YOU AND MOVE TO THAILAND!

Cause he owes you nothing.

Watch out sister!

no more mr nice guy
12 years ago

@burgundy:

no more mr nice guy – when you say “they believed that women ovulate at the same time,” do you mean they thought that all women ovulated simultaneously? Because that’s… special.

They believe that all women ovulate on days 10-16 of their monthly cycle and if a group of women live together, they have their periods at the same time so they ovulate at the same time so that they all can get pregnant by an alpha male. Roissy/Heartiste made several postings about it :

http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2010/03/31/the-number-one-dead-giveaway-that-your-wife-is-about-to-cheat/

Joanna
12 years ago

Hey David, what’s the IP address for Ashley?

Speaking of ancestry, I’m apparently a descendant of John F. Kennedy on my mother’s side, and some sort of distant cousin to Daniel Day Lewis on my father’s side. Cool beans, huh?

Tosca
Tosca
12 years ago

According to my grandma, we’re related to Rob Roy and Grover Cleveland! Neat.

Ugh that ovulation thing…it just smacks of thinking of women as packs of animals. That we are all the same and slaves to our biology. It’s gross.

jumbofish
jumbofish
12 years ago

A quick google search doesn’t show any Ashley Phinn… You’d think she would at least have a relative on facebook even if she didn’t have one with an unusual last name like that. (unless that is her middle name or not her real name but thats still unusual)

I think after reading that I believe in the existence of Ashley even less XD

I mean squealing about his sexual prowess because you “banned” him? Yeah ok “Ashley”…

ozymandias42
12 years ago

I used to be ashnostic, but this last post has switched me to firm A-ashism.

What I don’t understand about Ami’s post is why they are against sexual harassment law. Do they think that people should have to trade sex for jobs? It’s not about “sexual openness,” it’s about, you know, not being harassed and being able to get your work done.

Also there are woman-only trains because MEN KEEP GROPING THEM.

KristinMH
12 years ago

I used to know a girl who claimed to be descended from Captain Morgan of Captain Morgan’s Rum.

My own family are mostly indistinguished subsistence farmers. Who had lots of babies.

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