When we first met Spearhead commenter Rmaxd, he was raving about how our technological society had rendered women obsolete. He’s back, this time taking on, well, women again, and welfare, and declining birth rates, and, well, it’s all a little bit hard to follow.
Let’s start with Rmaxd’s basic premises:
Women are serially monogamous or hypergamous & are infertile for the majority of their lives
While men are polygamous, & FERTILE for the majority of their lives
Marriage has always been used as the earliest form of birth contraception, limit the amount of children a fertile male can have, by forced mating with a single infertile woman for the rest of his life.
We are off to a bad start here. Is there anything in all that that’s correct? Among other things: marriage is most decidedly not a particularly effective form of birth control. (The show Eight is Enough was based on a real family, and I suspect we’ve all met people with enough siblings to fill a bus.) But let’s continue; Rmaxd is on a roll:
As the government can no longer force this sort of mating on infertile womens, especially in the lower moronic, under educated peasantry states,
As women want alphas,
Obviously sluts & whores, are simply mimicing infertile women, as only infertile dried up vaginas, can afford to sleep around with hundreds of men
This is why we have sluts & promiscuity, marketted to young girls today, imitate infertile women, imitate their habits, destroy your fertility, destroy your youth
A childhood of std’s & yeast infections
Yeah, I’m not even going to try to parse all that.
In any case, as Rmaxd argues, these “infertile” ladies somehow still manage to pop out a few kids when they’re young, and the evil welfare state rewards them for it:
It’s essentially birth control by sponsoring infertile women, most women have a couple of kids, basically enough to live off the welfare & free housing
As we all know, single mothers live lives of untold luxury and indolence.
What we have here is essentially welfare for infertile women, as they’re no longer able to siphon cash from enslaving men into walking wallets & their magical vagina’s a pit of std’s & warts
In the past, you see, women could enslave men by marrying them. Now they can’t get dudes to stick around, so instead they enslave men by not marrying them, raising their kids on their own with the help of welfare money. It’s all very devious.
Rmaxd would prefer that the welfare money go to the fathers:
If we had welfare for men who had kids, with different women, we would have a healthy birth rate, instead of the declining birth rate we have now … this is all about rewarding & protecting a womans sexuality over a mans sexuality
It all leads to what Rmaxd calls:
The new another dark age of female fanatical male hate,
sponsored & policed by the church of radical feminist mangina, & government
The dried up vagina, as a tool of the state & population control
This barely coherent spew of woman-hatred – and it’s even less comprehensible without my edits and annotations – still managed to draw a few upvotes from the regulars, proving that internet misogynists will upvote pretty much anything so long as it contains the requisite level of anti-woman vitriol.
In case you’re feeling especially bored this lazy Sunday, the whole Spearhead thread is a trainwreck of misogyny and racism – including some fairly obnoxious discussions of black “Welfare Queens” and Mexican immigrants from a fellow called Keyster. Does that (fake) name sound familiar? You may know him as a fairly regular contributor to A Voice for Men and the producer of the AVfM internet radio show.
My recent ancestors were apparently mostly shiftless troublemakers, with the exception of those who were Native American and dealt with treaty violations, Trail of Tears, etc.
Of course, my maternal grandmother whose family was always racist recently informed us that it was a family secret that some of her ancestors were Spanish Moors. So there is that…
My ancestors were completely ordinary Irish immigrants. My other ancestors were completely ordinary German immigrants. Nothing to see here; move along.
Katz, that’s the worst Ancestry.com ad ever. I now want to film it and put it on youtube.
I once had a guy explain to me that thirty-five women “…lose their eggs…”. That’s a direct quote. The context? He was subjecting me to a detailed monologue about how medical science was discovering exciting new ways to prolong hunan life indefinitely and how this technology was less than a generation away. I, naturally, asked him about the problem of over population. But he declared it a non issue because women can’t get pregnant after thirty-five.
Hilarious.
The Scottish immigrants on my dad’s side had cowboys and horse thieves. My mom’s has Italians and German bankers (illuminati???haha).
Rmaxed is a great argument for better biology and sex ed in this country.
Nobinayamu: You could totally turn that into an add for Egg Insurance. “Ladies: Worried about losing your eggs?”
My grandparents were like American Dream poster children, as in: come to the US poor and speaking no English, work in a sweatshop, go to night school, get a good professional job, become middle-class in a couple of decades. It says a lot about the particular time period in which they immigrated. (Also, my father’s father couldn’t get into American medical schools, because of the quotas they had at the time that limited the number of Jewish students. So he went to a medical school in Austria. In the early 1930s. He… didn’t stay. He never completed his MD, which he was bitter about his whole life, but he was a very successful microbiologist and some of the articles he wrote are still used in textbooks and stuff.)
But I don’t know squat about my family beyond my great-grandparents. In my grandmothers’ cases, I don’t even know where in their respective countries their families lived before emigrating. All I know is that my mother signed up for one of those mitochondrial DNA studies, and apparently we are related (quite, quite distantly) to Henry Louis Gates (Sr, through the mitochondrial DNA, but technically that would make us related to Jr as well.)
One of the populations that has a high rate of unplanned pregnancy are women over 40, partially because of this idea that there would be no viable eggs after 35-40. The rate is about 32% .
Infertility and birth control are not only facts which are decreasing the birth rate. There is another thing behind the fact of that women do not like to bear children. There is a generation of women who followed their fathers rather than following their mothers. This kind of women do not have real female feelings.
My great great grandmother was commended by FDR for putting women to work for poor women. She created a factory that made inexpensive baby clothes.
So I come from evil capitalists.
You mean we are supposed to like:
exhaustion (weariness common from first weeks)
altered appetite and senses of taste and smell
nausea and vomiting (50% of women, first trimester)
heartburn and indigestion
constipation
weight gain
dizziness and light-headedness
bloating, swelling, fluid retention
hemmorhoids
abdominal cramps
yeast infections
congested, bloody nose
acne and mild skin disorders
skin discoloration (chloasma, face and abdomen)
mild to severe backache and strain
increased headaches
difficulty sleeping, and discomfort while sleeping
increased urination and incontinence
bleeding gums
pica
breast pain and discharge
swelling of joints, leg cramps, joint pain
difficulty sitting, standing in later pregnancy
inability to take regular medications
shortness of breath
higher blood pressure
hair loss
tendency to anemia
curtailment of ability to participate in some sports and activities
infection including from serious and potentially fatal disease
(pregnant women are immune suppressed compared with non-pregnant women, and are more susceptible to fungal and certain other diseases)
extreme pain on delivery
hormonal mood changes, including normal post-partum depression
continued post-partum exhaustion and recovery period (exacerbated if a c-section — major surgery — is required, sometimes taking up to a full year to fully recover)
That is the non-permanent things.
Because if we are, you really are an idiot Explore.
I was always told that one of my German ancestors came to America to escape arrest after killing a man in a bar fight…but then I heard a similar story from other people so I guess it’s one of those things people just say to make their ancestors seem like badasses.
But David Futrelle really did kill a man in a bar for looking at him the wrong way once.
Hey EN, are you ever going to address any of the criticisms of the drivel you keep spewing? ‘Cause this hit-and-run shit is getting tiresome.
Yeah, seriously. Explore Nature wont’ engage at all. Non-participatory trolling is the worst. He might as well be a spambot.
EN lists The Spearhead on his links section as “The Spreadhead”. I don’t know if that was an intentional joke on his part but I’m going to start calling it that from now on.
I am racking my brains for cool family stories. This is what I got:
My grandfather knew one of the Navajo code talkers when he served in the Navy during WW2.
Before I was born, one of my female relatives faced down a burglar who had broken into her house with a .22. This story is even more impressive when you add the detail that she’d just gotten out of the shower, and thus managed to scare the guy off while wearing nothing but a towel.
:X My mom is from Bavaria, her grandparents were Nazis. She doesn’t like to talk about it. Just says it was a dark time and that it’s over now.
My dad’s side of the family consists of Belgium immigrants, with my Irish great grandmother marrying in to the family. Moons actually comes from the Belgium word Mons, or the Hills. The name got mixed up on Ellis Island.
My family stories are very cool but I’m on a phone and typing is hard. They all went through some amazing adventures escaping the Nazis.
“…I’ve heard from my fair share of anti-feminists who literally seem to believe that women go through menopause around age 30…”
Well, obviously, it’s because we anti-feminists are just complete ditz’s.
One set of great-grandparents were Welsh Immigrants, of whom I know almost nothing – In fact, they may have been more Irish than Welsh. They were not the warmest and best of parents to grandpa, who was a steelworker and Army vet of the most awesomely typical variety. My maternal Grandma was from a mix of Irish and dutch/french/Wasp, that being the part where I connect back to the Colonies through a president’s brother. She was the first female Arc Welder in these parts, and posed for paintings, you can see her nude in galleries to this day. Her and Grandpa owned a bowling alley. On the Paternal side, I’ve got plenty of Irish with streaks of Traveller, a smidge of Rom and German that according to some research I’ve done, likely traces back to a group of families in Bavaria descended from the soldiers that stayed behind in Germany when Atilla the Hun died there! Which is pretty dang cool, distant as the story is.
zhinxy, we could be related! :3
…distantly
Well, obviously, it’s because we anti-feminists are just complete ditz’s.
That goes without saying.
Technically, can’t we all say that? 😛
ersatzmoons! Awesome!
Molly – True! There is the “nobody on earth is less than a 40th cousin” I heard way back when I took Bio 101. (holy shit, 12 years ago?) I think I remember reading that mitochondrial research might have decided it was less than that too. Anybody more up to date on this topic?