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Life Before Feminism: A Map of the Open Country of a Woman’s Heart

An alert reader pointed me to this amazing “map” from the 1830s, posted on Ptak Science Books and originally found here. Described as “A Map of the Open Country of a Woman’s Heart,” it presents a less-than-flattering picture of the supposed shallowness, vanity and selfishness of the female of the species. Click on the pic above to see it full size.

It’s amazing how closely this resembles so many Manosphere “critiques” of evil modern women; the main difference is that it’s a bit more polite in its language. Also, no mention of stinky vaginas.

Manospherians love to talk about “taking the red pill,” as if their ideas are all new and cool and Matrixy. Actually, of course, their ideas are old as fuck. It’s more like they are taking a gulp of Dr. Flimflam’s Electro Magnetic Misogyny Fluid.

Below, another amazing picture also found on Ptak, which presents data on where women’s eyes linger when looking at men. (Again, click on it to see it full size.) I suspect this one would be a bit more confounding to the Manospherians of today, in that it doesn’t show women looking only at the dude’s wallet. The post on Ptak offers a more detailed explanation of what this picture is about.

 

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hellkell
hellkell
12 years ago

I’ll have to second Dracula on asking “phase?”

katz
12 years ago

*hugs back*

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

No worries, Ami.

(Hugs)

Dracula
Dracula
12 years ago

I suppose I have a type, in that I tend to go for nerd/geek girls, goths, punks and any combination thereof, but I can be a attracted to a lot people outside of those general groupings. I don’t think I have much of a body type preference.

Dracula
Dracula
12 years ago

Seriously Ami, don’t worry about it. I just hope you’re okay.

PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth

I tend to be attracted to chubby, dark haired, pale, nerdy/geeky, sensible, responsible, reliable and level headed guys.

Of course right now I am madly in love with Crush so every guy I date does not measure up.

Lauralot
Lauralot
12 years ago

Oh shit, you guys, I am a small redhead with huge tits.

WHAT DO I DO

Shadow
Shadow
12 years ago

nthing support to Ami and Polliwog

The crush that grew up with me was Kaley Cuoco. I had a crush on her at 16 when she was on 8 Simple Rules, and now I have a crush on her again loll

2-D Man
2-D Man
12 years ago

Oh shit, you guys, I am a small redhead with huge tits.

WHAT DO I DO

Spit on everyone you meet, just in case it’s MRAL.

Shadow
Shadow
12 years ago

Spit on everyone you meet, just in case it’s MRAL.

Won’t work. MRAL’s awesome jedi powers have rendered her *dun dun dunnn* UGLY!!!

*brb, eyes rolled out head again*

Lauralot
Lauralot
12 years ago

At least in a month or so my face will be all swollen and bandaged up…that may help…

I better get ready to start spitting. Where are my mints?

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

Seriously Lauralot, you better watch out. Granted that he’s angry with me too, but at least I’m too old (and too ugly, of course) for him to want to fuck.

Quackers
Quackers
12 years ago

I’m a geek girl who’s kinda goth/emo/idunno

Stupid Twilight killed vampires for me for the time being…I think I’m gonna start a hot alien dude trend!

also *hugs Ami*

ithiliana
12 years ago

@MRAL: Good going! You made it almost 48 hours this time–I’d only given you 36.

Hippodameia
Hippodameia
12 years ago

Vampires who sparkle in the sunlight are just WRONG.

Frank Langella as Dracula, on the other hand . . .

And (((((((hugs))))))) if you would like them, Ami!

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

Vampires should never play baseball, or any other sport for that matter.

Dracula
Dracula
12 years ago

I don’t let Twilight get me down. I rise above that shit.

ithiliana
12 years ago

@MRAL back, same old shit.

Here’s what I posted after his last flounce on the 18th–figure I might as well repeat it here.

Although he barely seemed to be phoning it in tonight.

* * * * *

MRALSMACKDOWN REDUX

http://manboobz.com/2012/01/18/mras-and-children-first-the-spearhead-on-the-costa-concordia-disaster/comment-page-7/#comment-113318
MRAL: But it might be a more pleasant place overall without, well, you assholes.

Then WHY are you still here!

I don’t go read and post at MRA blogs or forums.

I don’t go read and post as feminist blogs I disagree with (and even besides Hugo’s, there are some).

All of us assholes would prefer if you went off to find some people you want to hang out with who might actually like hanging with you and stop playing the faux victim card here.

WHY don’t you stay away as you keep implying you will?

HINT: When I am tired of reading on the internet and want to go to bed, I just go–I don’t announce it everywhere–anybody who understands the basic internet knows you don’t have to announce every move. Announcing that you are LEAVING and then weaseling back and saying you just meant that thread is a dick move.


http://manboobz.com/2012/01/18/mras-and-children-first-the-spearhead-on-the-costa-concordia-disaster/comment-page-7/#comment-113322
MRAL: Ya know, if you weren’t who you are, I’d be willing to talk about the extent to which the post-capitalist consumer behemoth global corporations which are (to my perhaps jaundiced eyes) outweighing national governments in scope and power consider ALL FUCKING HUMAN BEING disposable.

TPTB don’t give a flying fuck about any of us.

The problem with having that discussion with you is that you’re so farking solipsistic and narcissistic that you don’t really give a damn about anybody but you: you don’t care about other men (you haven’t called the posters here you know are male Alpha Fucking Dicks that can recall–but that may have slipped my mind–so many trolls, so little originality, but you don’t exactly who any awareness of the very real oppressions that many men face in a kyriarchical system). You sure as hell don’t care about women who all have it better than you. You truly don’t see anybody here as real except yourself–I’m not sure I even buy the “oh poor me” lip quiver woobie act you’re trying to put on as reflecting anything other than “Q didn’t work to manipulate them, so let’s try C.”

No, you’re not a speshul snowflake deserving of all that is good.

Yes, life is fucking unfair.

Yes, most people around you probably don’t give a damn if you live or die–why should they? What have you ever done to make anybody care about whether you live or die?

So what’s fucking new about that situation? You think you’re fresh and original and edge because you come up with this tired old shit again…and….again….and….again?

Dracula
Dracula
12 years ago

Of course, that could just be my privilege talking. People are probably less likely to lump male vampire fans in with Twilight fans.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

I think the reason Twilight doesn’t affect my view of vampire stuff in general is that I was already too old to care when it came out. It just sort of registers as one of many things that lots of kids are obsessed with that doesn’t make any sense to me. I know some people my age are into it, but meh, that seems like an arrested development issue.

Shadow
Shadow
12 years ago

I have a preference for dusky/tanned to dark skin, so the vampire/goth phase just flew right over my head

Shadow
Shadow
12 years ago

BTW, did any of the Brits here watch Mind Your Language? Francoise Pascal rocked my socks off, and she looks gorgeous to this day!! http://francoisepascal.co.uk/

Ohiken
Ohiken
12 years ago

What you don’t see in those lion pictures is male lions killing cubs (sired by other lions) to bring their dams into estrus faster, and barbs male lions have on their peen. All female cats turn around and smack male cats after coitus, cuz it hurts. But it has to hurt because cats are induced ovulators.

tl;dr lionesses have hella reasons to be smacking lions around.

Shadow
Shadow
12 years ago

@Lauralot

IIRC you mentioned needing to go in for surgery. Hope it’s nothing serious

Quackers
Quackers
12 years ago

Of course, that could just be my privilege talking. People are probably less likely to lump male vampire fans in with Twilight fans.

Yeah if anyone assumes I’m a Twilight fan just because I’m female and a vampire fan they’re getting kicked in the face lol

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