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Life Before Feminism: A Map of the Open Country of a Woman’s Heart

An alert reader pointed me to this amazing “map” from the 1830s, posted on Ptak Science Books and originally found here. Described as “A Map of the Open Country of a Woman’s Heart,” it presents a less-than-flattering picture of the supposed shallowness, vanity and selfishness of the female of the species. Click on the pic above to see it full size.

It’s amazing how closely this resembles so many Manosphere “critiques” of evil modern women; the main difference is that it’s a bit more polite in its language. Also, no mention of stinky vaginas.

Manospherians love to talk about “taking the red pill,” as if their ideas are all new and cool and Matrixy. Actually, of course, their ideas are old as fuck. It’s more like they are taking a gulp of Dr. Flimflam’s Electro Magnetic Misogyny Fluid.

Below, another amazing picture also found on Ptak, which presents data on where women’s eyes linger when looking at men. (Again, click on it to see it full size.) I suspect this one would be a bit more confounding to the Manospherians of today, in that it doesn’t show women looking only at the dude’s wallet. The post on Ptak offers a more detailed explanation of what this picture is about.

 

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Ami Angelwings
12 years ago

If David did ban him, do you think he’d still read constantly? We know (from my experiment last night xD ) at least one banned troll does.

lowquacks
lowquacks
12 years ago

Which experiment was that, Ami?

Ami Angelwings
12 years ago

Like MRAL might just end up emailing people his angry rants and responses to stuff he reads here. Buttman did that on the forum (with a healthy dose of transphobia) as does Forweg… >_>

Not that that’s not a reason xD I’m just saying he probably would find a way to get his fix. (what IS it about Manboobz that’s so addictive? should the FDA get involved?)

hellkell
hellkell
12 years ago

I wouldn’t wish MRAL in his current state on my worst enemy.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

Actually I think his internal logic is that the people he lashes out at are bad people who’ve been cruel to him, so he’s justified in retaliating. Which is where the problem starts, with his conceptualization of what constitutes cruelty to him, but also this is why I said that his behavior is following a classic abuse script, ie if I hit you it’s because you made me do it. It’s like Meller without the dolls and the flowery Victorian language.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

Maybe instead of Manboobz the site should be named ManCrack…

(hides)

Ami Angelwings
12 years ago

Yup, he does feel absolutely justified. If you notice, he doesn’t ACTUALLY apologize. He only says “I did it in haste” or “I did it because I’m angry”. It’s an explanation, and a justification. >_>

Ami Angelwings
12 years ago

Manboobzcrack? xD

hellkell
hellkell
12 years ago

Let’s not forget his latest justification: “I was high.”

Polliwog
Polliwog
12 years ago

I agree with a lot of other people that MRAL really shouldn’t date anyone until he sorts himself out a little bit. Among other things, he really needs to learn to work through his extreme anger and jealousy, because as it stands right now, I don’t want to think about what could happen the first time his hypothetical girlfriend mentions in passing that she had a crush on a hot guy in high school, or thinks Russell Brand has stupid hair, or whatever random issue pushes MRAL’s rage-button that day.

Ami Angelwings
12 years ago

Neways, we should move on from the MRAlysis xD

So how bout them Patriots?

Dracula
Dracula
12 years ago

The levels of jealously and paranoia MRAL displays toward people he barely knows is already bordering on horrifying. The emotional investment a relationship entails is only going to make it worse.

Ami Angelwings
12 years ago

@Polliwog or says US instead of “America”, or doesn’t like every work GRRM’s ever written, or etc etc…

the other problem is MRAL’s opinions are never just opinions, they’re objective truth and he. is. right.

Ami Angelwings
12 years ago

What Superbowl match up are ppl (if they watch USan football) hoping for?

I want Patriots vs Giants, a re-match of 2007 😀

Dracula
Dracula
12 years ago

So anyway, back to a previous topic: I agree that goths are totally hot.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

Can we go back to talking about people we find hot? That was more fun.

(Even though we know we will never get to sleep with them, in most cases.)

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

Here’s another one! For Quackers – reason why you should see the live-action version of Nana. Check out the guy who plays Ren.

Of course I’m a fashion geek and he’s a bit young to be anything other than eye candy from my perspective so I’m mostly going “ooh, check out the shirt!”.

Ami Angelwings
12 years ago

I have difficulty with this topic a little (that’s not to say switch it, just cards on the table for me) b/c the guy I was really attracted to in HS (who was goth then) was also the guy who years later.. violated… me… :

My brain seems to still have trouble processing that he was my best friend and this awesome crush in HS (he shows up in my dreams that go back to HS and is still my friend) to the guy who did that to me… and I hate myself for it and I always don’t know how I can still remember back and … I dunno 🙁

Quackers
Quackers
12 years ago

@bobbyjo

It’s true. His attitude will exude in his aura (as hippy dippy as that sounds) no one can hold that much anger inside and not let some of it out. Women…anyone really, can sense that and will stay far away. He’s shooting himself in the foot by not getting help, it’s unfortunate.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

Aw, Ami. That’s horrible. Are you still able to be attracted to other people? We can stop talking about this if it’s bugging you.

Dracula
Dracula
12 years ago

Oh, I’m sorry, Ami. 🙁

Quackers
Quackers
12 years ago

@Cassandra

yeeeeeeah!!! Ren is hot haha. I really gotta watch that one of these days.

argh. back to cleaning -_-

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

(Waits for inevitable rant about “why are you being so nice to her and not meeeeeeee?!)

Ami Angelwings
12 years ago

And really the only good social memories I have of that period were cuz of him… (my life pre-transition was filled with depression and self-hate and suicide attempts otherwise)… so a lot of the “OH I DID THAT WHEN I WAS A TEEN!” thing are tinged with “oh fuck it’s also him with me, and that’s why it was so happy but… then… *cries* 🙁 BRAIN AHHHHHH I DUNNO HOW TO HANDLE, WHY AM I STILL THINKING HAPPY MEMORIES OF THE PAST WHEN THAT HAPPENED LATER… DOES THIS MEAN I WASN’T REALLY…. violated…. b/c I should just hate all the old memories too shouldn’t i!? and I do and I don’t and it’s not immediate and I dunno! ;-;”

I dun make sense do I? 🙁

Quackers
Quackers
12 years ago

oh shit….I’m so sorry Ami 🙁 will promptly shut my mouth about goth guys.

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