An alert reader pointed me to this amazing “map” from the 1830s, posted on Ptak Science Books and originally found here. Described as “A Map of the Open Country of a Woman’s Heart,” it presents a less-than-flattering picture of the supposed shallowness, vanity and selfishness of the female of the species. Click on the pic above to see it full size.
It’s amazing how closely this resembles so many Manosphere “critiques” of evil modern women; the main difference is that it’s a bit more polite in its language. Also, no mention of stinky vaginas.
Manospherians love to talk about “taking the red pill,” as if their ideas are all new and cool and Matrixy. Actually, of course, their ideas are old as fuck. It’s more like they are taking a gulp of Dr. Flimflam’s Electro Magnetic Misogyny Fluid.
Below, another amazing picture also found on Ptak, which presents data on where women’s eyes linger when looking at men. (Again, click on it to see it full size.) I suspect this one would be a bit more confounding to the Manospherians of today, in that it doesn’t show women looking only at the dude’s wallet. The post on Ptak offers a more detailed explanation of what this picture is about.
Mellertron seems a little enthusiastic today. I hope everything’s okay in the ol Meller abode :
Also Mellertron, why do you believe that having a multicultural society, or having an oppressed group take power would end up in violence? o_O I’m not white. How badly do you think I want to hurt my white friends? Do YOU want to hurt non-white people or something? o_O Is this projection? I have first nations friends. Do they secretly want to hurt my white friends? Is everybody here gritting their teeth while hiding shotguns behind our backs? o_O
Also it’s odd how you act like everything is this weird hypothetical just b/c you’re a white westerner who presumably has family roots going back several generations.
If nationalism is like the strongest omg force in our genetic omg nature or whatever omg you’re claiming now xD So if war broke out between Hong Kong and Canada, my mom would shoot me in the head or something? o_O Or I’d shoot her? Or… what? Or are we doing the “eternal foreigner” thing with Asians, and I’d turn on Canada because obv I’m a sleeper agent… or what? o_O Your thing isn’t a hypothetical. I’m a real person. Tell me about me :3
The thing about racists like Mellertron is that they NEED the fantasy of the violent uprising by bitter angry PoCs to justify their racism and a more racist society : They need the idea that there can never be peace but somebody is always going to be “on top” and somebody will always be oppressed/enslaved (sometimes they’ll even admit to historical wrongs to keep that narrative going like “sure we got the ball rolling, but now it can’t stop, now they’re always going to want revenge”) . But the point is, if the oppressed group is inevitably going to try to kill you, and that peace is an impossibility, that its “us or them”, then their racism is justified b/c there’s no other choice. If it’s your family & friends or your work buddies, and SOMEBODY IS ABSOLUTELY 100% going to kill somebody, then most people would choose their family & friends. (or whoever they consider their family) That’s the dichotomy that ppl like Mellertron want to set up… both for themselves (so therefore everything they believe is logical b/c it’s merely about survival) and to convince others… just look at his “protection money” selljob to Zhinxy xD “It’s a dangerous Hawaii out there, if you don’t let us protect you, we can’t control what those Polyesians do to you.”
Racism is necessary b/c the well is already poisoned and the oppressed/colonized group will never forgive you your ancestors sins, therefore for your own survival you have to continue them.
I wonder what Mellertron thinks of bi-racial people? Do they rip themselves in two (or 3 or 5 or 10) when the race war begins? Or do they just implode? xD
Man, if everyone went back to where their ancestors were, Ireland would get seriously overcrowded. And America would have absolutely no one in it!
Can I start the United States of Geekdom somewhere? I feel a lot more nationalistic loyalty to my fellow geeks than I do even to my fellow Americans.
>>>The concerns of Stormfront.com are which policies, laws, and incentives are most likely to result in a kind of society or community in which White people would like to live?
Yeaah. From what I’ve seen the real concerns of Stormfront.com are which policies, laws and incentives are more likely to result in a kind of society or community in which non-White people wouldn’t like to live… because of fear, intimidation and violence.
Or are we all going back to Africa? How many generations back are we supposed to be looking?
@Viscaria
That was actually what my friend did. Some dude at a bar got a lil rowdy and pulled out a “go back to Africa”. My friend’s exact response: “You first, muthafucka!”. I pissed myself laughing
Man, if everyone went back to where their ancestors were, Ireland would get seriously overcrowded. And America would have absolutely no one in it!
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Err, well, I see what you mean, but that does kinda run up against the whole “we’re all immigrants” logic that’s used to silence Native claims.
I mean, after all, if you’re saying that Ireland counts as a population center, everybody that went over the land bridge to settle in America definitely counts even harder…
Meller, please keep going with the Hawaii theory, my husband (who also grew up there) could use a good laugh.
Since he’s Filipino/Japanese, and I’m white, does that make me a race-traitor, Meller? Just trying to keep up with all the vile racist lingo you’re so up on.
and yeah, as a geek anarchist, I definitely am all for loyalty to just about anything over nation-state and yey the polycentricity of phyles or w/ever, but you really could have thought that one through a little more, I think. 🙁
A lot of Native people’s hear a “We all immigrated from somewhere!” logic that does nothing but cause pain and diminish their claims to their homelands, combined with a “Terra Nova” logic and out-of-sight out of mindness that all conspires to a notion that there’s still something “newly settled” about colonized spaces. The quickness with which you -Not that I’m singling you out as especially guilty,- put forth an empty america if “everybody went back” but not an empty Ireland is testament to that. 🙁
Yes Meller, discuss! Discuss!!!!
Hellkell – Apparently modern white women are so awful he doesn’t care about race mixing, or something.
The Australian response to “we’re all immigrants” is: there’s been people in Australia for 60,000 years, in UK only 10,000 years.
And a hearty LOfuckingL at “besieged white people.” That one never gets old.
Meller, like zhinxy said, PLEASE tell us what you know about Hawaii now or historically.
Magpie – THAT.
Zhinxy, I guess it would be worse if I were a SOFG. XD.
hellkell – Well, then you would be on your white compound with the whitely chosen white of your white family’s choice!
HA, I’d be in one of the Houses of Entertainment for sure.
Beseiged White People could be an Oi! band…
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#ButNeitherDoesDKMForThatMatter
Hey Mellermaman: Spend some time studying this and we might talk.
Basically, humanz been migrating all over the world and mixing it up since we evolved in what is now called Africa.
http://smithsonianeducation.org/migrations/start.html
Sex, drugs, music, religion, culture–humans like travelling aroud and mixing it up.
YOU paranoid little dolly-man that you are are the exception rather than the rule, and, as I’ve said before, I know I’ll die happier than you will.
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Meller: Almost correct! I said that races (and nationalities, ethnies, religions, etc) following the natural inclinations of their people and keeping THEMSELVES apart,
Almost correct; because you are glossing over the means of that, banal phrase, “keeping themselves apart,” which will require force.
It’s also not proven that the “natural inclinations” of people is to keep themselves apart. I can cite you treatises on people from Rome, Persia, Marseilles, etc. in support of this.
Other group(s) however, find themselves doing without, even AFTER being given all that the superior groups have to offer, and still find themselves declining rapidly into the same savagery and penury that was their lot before encountering the more advanced group(s).
It’s more that they find themselves, “done without”, because of the people who are engaging in the aforementioned force, to “keep themselves apart.”
You have this consistent (if somewhat predictable) trope that the, “rarities” can triumph, “if the people of the host group will accept them”, but at the same time you want to strip entire classes of people of the opportunity to see what they are capable of (see Meller On the Education of Women: Manboobz, 2011).
Your, “equality of authority” is based on controlling social structures which deny the individual authority of those who don’t want to live as you think they should (see Meller, “Houses of Entertainment”, “Sexbots”, and the Extermination of Women As a Final Solution to Feminism”).
Question: You claim to be a Libertarian. Why do you keep pointing to restrictive systems of law (such as Apartheid: which prohibited people from holding certain jobs, living in certain places, travelling with whomever they liked, etc.), as the Ideal for which to strive?
In short, whenever people here say that anyone should be allowed the chance to do anything (i.e. personal liberty, unfettered by another’s active interference) you start praising laws which limited personal freedom.
It’s almost as if, absent such a draconian interference from The State, the Male Dominated, Separatist Paradise of Mellibertopia, would be unable to sustain itself.
Why is this the case? To ask the Question is to Answer it!
Meller: I nowhere said that, or even suggested that, religion, language, ethicities (happy now?), or nationalities were the same, or were interchangable differences among people. All I was doing was using these criteria of differences to illustrate that “birds of a feather, flock well together”.
That’s why the bigots and racists are all just one big happy family, with never a disagreement among them.
Right?
Meller: The fall of the Berlin wall in 1989 has nothing to do with what is under discussion here, being an artificial separation of Germans by a hated conqueror, NOT anything that grew from within Germans, still less Berliners themselves!
Which is why there was (and is) no cultural strife between Eastern and Western Germany when the two polities began to reintegrate. They were all Volk!, and it was perfectly fine between them. All they need to do now is collect the rest of the German Diaspora (and Kultur) and then the world will be as it ought to be.
(And yes, I know I am making a Hitler reference, it seems topical to the balderdash Meller is spouting).