An alert reader pointed me to this amazing “map” from the 1830s, posted on Ptak Science Books and originally found here. Described as “A Map of the Open Country of a Woman’s Heart,” it presents a less-than-flattering picture of the supposed shallowness, vanity and selfishness of the female of the species. Click on the pic above to see it full size.
It’s amazing how closely this resembles so many Manosphere “critiques” of evil modern women; the main difference is that it’s a bit more polite in its language. Also, no mention of stinky vaginas.
Manospherians love to talk about “taking the red pill,” as if their ideas are all new and cool and Matrixy. Actually, of course, their ideas are old as fuck. It’s more like they are taking a gulp of Dr. Flimflam’s Electro Magnetic Misogyny Fluid.
Below, another amazing picture also found on Ptak, which presents data on where women’s eyes linger when looking at men. (Again, click on it to see it full size.) I suspect this one would be a bit more confounding to the Manospherians of today, in that it doesn’t show women looking only at the dude’s wallet. The post on Ptak offers a more detailed explanation of what this picture is about.
@red_locker
You’d be surprised at the list of rights that the wrong is convinced he has
@hellkell
Pun intended?
I seem to remember atleast two “Black widow *wink wink*” posts. Clearly the fact that they didn’t ex[licitly say “Black widows eat their mates and I want to eat my mate HAR HAR HAR JK” means that they were trying to gloss over this fact. After all, if the women posters here got the reference on their own, they would probably be overeducated mutants!!!!!
zhinxy: Yes, Kopi Luwak. I loved working in film/TV because of the weird shit I got to see/try.
Cassandra: Wasps are mixed for me. Most couldn’t care less about people, in general. Then you get things like Hornets, which can be territorial as all fuck AND breed like crazy. One of the scariest photos I ever saw was of an abandoned Cadillac (or some other large American trouring sedan), which had the entire interior taken over, and filled, with a single nest of hornets.
And that red thing… lovely in an abstract way, but too terrifying to let live. I’ve been stung by a paper wasp once (to be fair, I stepped on her; barefoot, by accident) and that was awful. This thing looked to have a lot more venom than that.
Pecunium: My parents had a nest of mud daubers in their shed that were this amazing pale metallic blue. Didn’t quite make up for the fact that they’re bugs and therefore evil, but they were pretty.
KathleenB: I like bugs. I take photos of them all the time (with Macro Equipment, so I have to get fairly close sometimes).
But yeah, the social Hymenoptera are sort of nervous making.
If anyone here has ever encountered a person more shrill, vacuous, hateful, or hysterical than Meller then I’d be fascinated to hear about that person, because I’m not convinced that such a thing is possible.
Pecunium: Bugs and arachnids and… whatever the fuck centipedes and millipedes are make me scream. At one point io9 had a pic of a great big spider on the front page, and I kinda forgot that my office chair has wheels. there was shrieking, and then I was five feet away from the desk, begging MrB to close the tab. I really, really, REALLY don’t like spiders.
“whatever the fuck centipedes and millipedes are”
They’re clearly aliens. Nothing born on Earth should have that many legs.
I’d say “What about cephalopods?”, but everyone knows they’re from Yuggoth originally.
Cassandra: I have encountered someone who was as challenged by reality as Meller. This person is also more self-aggrandising. He’s managed to parlay that into a cushy living, probably not less than 120,000 per annum.
If you want to talk about him, in a non-public space (he has cultic followers. There are also reports which might be libelous to repeat in public places), drop me a line.
Pecunium – Yikes. I can see why you wouldn’t want to talk about him in public. Though it’s a shame we can’t, since it would be upsetting for Meller to see someone like himself doing so well in life.
Pecunium: I’m more curious in what area a person as delusional as Meller could get cultic followers and a ton of money… I predict either transhumanism or right-wing/libertarian punditry.
My bet is on motivational speaker.
Also you have to love how Meller is just ignoring the second part of the post. Did his “must rant about evil modern women” program kick in, or is he just refusing to acknowledge that ladies of the past were picky about men too? I still remember the disgusted horror he exhibited at the idea of Houses of Entertainment for female customer – that is one dude who finds female desire scary as hell.
Ozy – Transhumanism crossed with right-libertarian punditry is always a good bet, that’s also where I’VE encountered people as messed up as Meller. Interestingly enough, Meller’s own crazy libertarian time freeze means he doesn’t know about them, and will probably never find a home there.
Ozy has, in fact; as explained by zhinxy hit the very nail on the button.
Let’s just say one can get more wrong than Meller.
Pecunium: Ha! I am now like 95% certain I know who the dude is, too. 🙂
Ozy, You were supposed to. An ass, an idiot, and a cult figure of strange power.
I would like to point out that none of us are having this conversation in a properly Bayesian context, and thus we know nothing at all.
Good lord, people.
You know, I’ve been complaining a lot about the weather lately, but you know what doesn’t survive 30 below? Any of the terrible, terrible abominations you all are talking about. Thank you for restoring my appreciation for home. (Besides, it warmed up to about freezing in the period of like a day and a half so I have nothing to keep whining about anyway.)
@Pecunium:
I’m really excited to try Kopi Luwak! My man got some for Christmas, but he hasn’t roasted it yet.
Kopi Luwak is the most mellow and smooth coffee I’ve ever had. It’s acid are really mellow. It probably does best with a more blonde/cinnamon roast.
Zhinxi–January 23, 2012 @6:31pm–
One more post of mistaken nonsense!
I read, and was pleased to read K. Eric Drexler’s works about “nanotechnology” in the mid 1980s (I believe his “Engines of Creation” was published in 1986), and his inspiration Richard Feynmann’s essay “Plenty of Room at the Bottom” which was published in 1959. I still think that there are enormous potentitalities in nanotech applications–although immortality isn’t one of them–and a supporter of transhumanism to the extent possible. I don’t know about immortality, for example, but a method of reliably postponing death for a few centuries, whether through anti-aging manipulation on the molecular and genetic scale or a safe, reiliable technology involving suspended animation and tissue preservation down to the cellular level, which seems eminently possible, and probably even profitable and widespread. once the understanding of underlying systems and their regulation is available to post-medical mankind.
Zhinxi–simply because I read material, whether it be Murray Rothbard, Ayn Rand, Buckminster Fuller, David Irving, James J. Martin, Samuel T. Francis, Voltarine deClayre (!), Phillipe Rushton, or any other cutting-edge observer of homo sapiens(?) doesn’t mean that I agree with everything the writer says–or anything, for that matter.It also doesn’t exclude any future ones, such as your Kevin Carson or John Taylor Gatto, when I get around to them. I already thanked you for your suggestions there. Needless to say, they won’t be the ONLY ones whom I will observe when time comes to be reading your recommendations.
I assume, as I believe that I told people here–and elsewhere–many times, that the information a.k.a lies which are spoonfed me by the schools, politicians, lobotomyvision–both cable and broadcast–rightwing squawkradio, and even some 75% of internet–is prima facie FALSE!! This includes, but is not limited to feminism, and doctrines of gender (and other) equality. I certainly am, and have been aware of transhumanism, and to some extent, have been a (careful) but consistant supporter of what it would have to offer.
I then go along with the theories offered in the suppressed, deligimated, “memory-holed”, or otherwise censored writing with an eye toward explaining the matter under discussion better than, and more completely then, the conventional pishposh rejected. Do I always do this perfectly? Of course not! I am, however, capable of acknowledging mistakes and revising my views when better–more truthful–explainations,or even better–more accurate–descriptions come along. Whether the new observations or opinions predict results better than mainstream lies also is important! My reality orientation is at least as good as that of any manboobzer or manboobzette, and I will put my predictions of likely consequences of current events to anybody else’s about ANY subject: from the environment to race-relations, from media hyped feminism to birthrate demographics to the most likely consequences of continued bank-bailout, debt pyramiding, and corporate welfare to increasing unemployemnt–and unemployability–among “workers” in the USA and the (formerly) developed world…
Zhinxi–here’s a parable for you: A very well-credentialed, well degreed “expert” in marine biology went swimming one hot summer’s day on an oceanfront beach known to be occasionally visited by sharks. One day, Jaws was sighted moving toward the swimmers, and a hasty evacuation was ordered, and complied with. Everybody got out of the water, except for our Marine biology expert (who even wrote a dozen or so authoritative books about sharks to his credit).
As the hungry man-eater headed toward our hero, he still made no effort to escape to shore, something that he could still very easily do. Finally the shark came up to him, and perhaps bewildered on seeing such an unbelievably stupid human, asked him why he didn’t flee with the rest of the swimmers. Looking down his nose at the upstart shark, our learned friend said that he made a twenty-year study of sharks around the world, and that he KNEW that sharks were mostly harmless and did NOT attack or eat people. He than cited chapter and verse for his ignorant and foolish conclusion to the shark.
The shark than replied “all of that is very interesting, but you have a really big problem! I have never read any of your books, and I am hungry as, well, a shark!
The good professor’s family and friends were all very sad that evening!
The point, you have missed it so spectacularly, even for you.
Even “homo sapiens” gets the patented Meller (?)? That’s new, right?
I’m not at all surprised you read such things in the eighties. I’d be surprised if you hadn’t. All your talk of robowives certainly leads to that conclusion. What I know is that you aren’t ever going to get up-to-date enough to join the others on that fringe (Or the less fringy people interested in it, of whom I know many) Pretty much all your knowledge, including your futurism and transhumanism seems to halt around 1994. The latest book you have ever rec’d is The Creature from Jekyll Island – And while I’m fond of that book, it’s definitely on the crackpotty side of things. When you seek out libertarian material to read, you see out historical material. It’s bizarre.
Nobody said anything about you agreeing with everything the writer says, in fact, in most cases, that would be a terrible slur against the writers.
Will you stop calling them “my” Kevin Carson and John Taylor Gatto? It’s creepy. The most interaction I’ve had with either of them is talking to Kevin Carson on Twitter, which is fun and informative, but hardly makes him in any way “mine” They’re important political writers who cover ground you keep stomping over. In an up-to-date way. I’m sure you are interested in transhumanism and anything that might get you a robot wife.
But the point remains that you continue to act like a learned and involved libertarian, while the last time you talked to anybody who wasnt a fashion dolly, fringe conspiracy nut, or.. I guess, me? about libertarianism was likely circa 1994, and you just aren’t at all up to date on what’s going on. Which is fine, except you continue to expect to be treated like an expert, instead of a guy living in a time machine. Politics. Change with the times. Just how it happens. XD