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Life Before Feminism: A Map of the Open Country of a Woman’s Heart

An alert reader pointed me to this amazing “map” from the 1830s, posted on Ptak Science Books and originally found here. Described as “A Map of the Open Country of a Woman’s Heart,” it presents a less-than-flattering picture of the supposed shallowness, vanity and selfishness of the female of the species. Click on the pic above to see it full size.

It’s amazing how closely this resembles so many Manosphere “critiques” of evil modern women; the main difference is that it’s a bit more polite in its language. Also, no mention of stinky vaginas.

Manospherians love to talk about “taking the red pill,” as if their ideas are all new and cool and Matrixy. Actually, of course, their ideas are old as fuck. It’s more like they are taking a gulp of Dr. Flimflam’s Electro Magnetic Misogyny Fluid.

Below, another amazing picture also found on Ptak, which presents data on where women’s eyes linger when looking at men. (Again, click on it to see it full size.) I suspect this one would be a bit more confounding to the Manospherians of today, in that it doesn’t show women looking only at the dude’s wallet. The post on Ptak offers a more detailed explanation of what this picture is about.

 

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ithiliana
12 years ago

Clearly that first map was drawn by DKM!

Holly Pervocracy
12 years ago

That second image is missing a significant data point, but maybe it got filed under “trousers.”

🙂

zhinxy
zhinxy
12 years ago

My favorite is the bolded, underlined credit under the heart map – BY A LADY.

Magpie
Magpie
12 years ago

It’s a WOMAN’S heart, by a LADY. See, two different things )

boxofcrates
boxofcrates
12 years ago

I like that the map includes that terrible vice, novel reading*. I think I’m missing out on the meaning of “District No. 1”, though? Did the artist run out of shallow assumptions?

I intend to visit the Pyramids of Fashion someday.

*Yes, I know that novel reading used to be seen as something morally sketchy. It’s pretty interesting how that has changed.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

@ Holly

To be fair, the trousers are all you can really see. Maybe women didn’t look at them for very long because they quickly realized that they weren’t going to be able to see anything interesting.

Clearly I have spent too much time visiting the Pyramids of Fashion, because my first thought was “what an ugly, boxy suit”.

Magpie
Magpie
12 years ago

paging Spearhafoc …

Magnesium
Magnesium
12 years ago

I always look at the hat first.

Xanthe
Xanthe
12 years ago

Sentiment and Love do get a place on the map at least, albeit one small corner walled in on all sides by a mountain range. The lady who drew up the map obviously had a poor opinion of other women.

As for the missing data point, Holly, DKM would probably say “Nice ladies don’t allow their gaze to linger there!” (Being partial to a bit of covert crotch watching myself, thus I am definitely not a nice lady.)

Holly Pervocracy
12 years ago

CassandraSays – But such good posture! We really don’t indoctrinate posture into the youth like we used to.

Also, you can tell that heart map wasn’t made by an MRA, because it includes “love,” “prudence,” “enthusiasm,” “good sense,” and the like in the Country Of Solid Worth.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

Well, men back then needed good posture. To make sure their hats didn’t fall off.

I actually do tend to notice men with good posture. Mostly because it makes their shoulders and chest look nice.

Holly Pervocracy
12 years ago

I almost want to identify that guy as ex-military just by his incredible posture.

Then again, I guess a healthy man of that age in that era was very likely to be ex-military, what with WWII and all.

Quackers
Quackers
12 years ago

Roissy commeter says lets beat up women! no the manosphere isn’t misogynistic or violent at all, where would you get THAT idea?

Trimegistus
Counterpostering won’t work. That’s “hate speech” or “threats.”

More effective: actual beatings. She’s accused you of it anyway, so why not put it into practice? As a bonus there’s a good chance of smokin’ hot sex afterwards.

is it sad that this just doesn’t surprise me anymore? this is under his latest post ironically about “false” rape culture. Is it any surprise that the creep who pushes the idea that no means yes when women say it is trying to deny rape culture?

Also lol at this OP. I found the top image a week ago. Its cringe worthy but kinda funny so I saved it anyway. Large chunks of my heart seem to be missing according to this…dunno how I’m still alive xD

Men's Rights Activist Lieutenant
Men's Rights Activist Lieutenant
12 years ago

I notice when women have good posture, and 60DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD tits, and .5x.5″ lips, and a perfectly symmetrical face, and brown hair, and pale skin (but not too pale!) perfect legs, longish hair (but not too long!), green eyes flecked with gold, and impeccable makeup. The rest can fuck off and go die in a fire, as CassandraSays would say.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

I see that MRAL still hasn’t contacted his university’s mental health services department.

Caraz
Caraz
12 years ago

Alright, Who won the ‘when will MRAL break his flounce’ bet?

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

” As a bonus there’s a good chance of smokin’ hot sex afterwards.”

So his definition of “smokin’ hot sex” is sex with someone who’s bleeding and possibly unconscious? Well, I suppose blood is quite warm…

lowquacks
lowquacks
12 years ago

MRAL, people finding other people hot is not passive-aggressive hostility to you. If you only find women like that attractive, it’s okay. It’ll be tricky to find women like that – that’s not a real bra size for a start – but that’d be entirely okay. Most people don’t find people saying that they find things or people attractive offensive like that. I feel you’d be a lot happier if you didn’t.

Quackers
Quackers
12 years ago

@Cassandra

being the type of sick fuck that reads Roissy’s shit and writes comments about beating women, yeah I wouldn’t put it pass him. I wouldn’t put it passed a lot of them actually.

TheBogusMan
TheBogusMan
12 years ago

You ladies sure do love ties. Is that because a tie indicates that your intended victim has a high-paying job? HYPERGAMY I SAY, SHEER HYPERGAMY

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

The funny thing is that other than the improbable bra size, MRAL and I seem to be attracted to somewhat similar women (though I don’t care about skin tone). Maybe he’s mad at me because I’m more likely to be able to sleep with them than he is?

But yeah – learn how bras work, kid. A woman with a 60whatever bra size (which I don’t think exists) would be rather large all over, which I gather isn’t what you were attempting to communicate. If you mean skinny with big boobs then what you’re looking for is small number/big letters.

Quackers
Quackers
12 years ago

*past

Quackers
Quackers
12 years ago

Yeah women with big tits tend to be bigger in other places too…too bad those fat bitches had to go ruin it for you poor oppressed menz huh?

Quackers
Quackers
12 years ago

is this gonna turn into another “who I find hot” thread because HELLO http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1330560/

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago
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