Most of the coverage of the Costa Concordia disaster at the moment seems to be focusing on the Italian cruise ship’s captain and his douchey behavior, which involved not only running the ship aground but also abandoning ship prestissimo while passengers remained trapped on board.
MRAs, by contrast, are using the tragedy as an excuse to rail against the notion of “women and children first” and, of course, to make jokes about women drowning.
Now, the Titanic aside, “women and children first” isn’t now, and hasn’t ever really been, the standard way to evacuate those on a sinking ship, though many in the public — including some of those who were on board the Costa Concordia – seem to believe that it is. (See here for more details on how evacuations are typically handled these days; generally only those with mobility problems are given special treatment.)
In the case of this particular evacuation, some on board apparently tried to enforce an informal “women and children” policy, but many men weren’t willing to wait.
What’s got some MRAs in a snit is that some people, in the media and online, are calling these dudes cowards. In The Daily Mail, a right-wing British tabloid, A N Wilson wrote:
[I]n our day, with the advent of feminism and the professional woman, chivalry and manners are considered stuffy and old-fashioned.
As the father of three daughters, I do not, with a single fibre of my being, wish to go back to a time when women could not have the vote or get a university degree. Nor do I, surrounded by extremely strong-charactered and intelligent women in my family and among my friends, feel tempted to regard women as the frail sex.
But the fact remains that there is a longing among most men to protect women and children, and chivalry is simply a manifestation of that longing.
And whatever transpires about the reason for the Costa Concordia disaster, the disappearance of a chivalric code is a sorry reflection on society today.
This is not what you’d call a feminist argument; it’s a traditionalist argument, published in a tabloid rag that’s generally quite hostile to feminism.
Nonetheless, some MRAs are using the Costa Concordia disaster as an opportunity to deliver a big “told you so!” to the … imaginary feminists who live in their head.
Over on The Spearhead, where one familiar commenter actually described Wilson’s Daily Mail article as “feminist,” guest poster Lyn87 wrote:
The MRM is getting more vocal, and a lot of guys are now saying, “You wanted equality. This is what it looks like.” And they are saying it aloud and in public. Even a few women chimed in, saying that men have no obligation to die for women if women want equality. (Somehow I suspect there wasn’t much, “I am woman, hear me roar, watch me drown” on the Costa Concordia itself, but hey, it’s a start.)
MRAs: Always up-to-the-minute with their pop culture references!
This post was helpfully illustrated with a stock photo of a woman drowning.
Commenters got in their digs as well.
Keyster riffed on Lyn87’s incredibly au courant Helen Reddy reference:
I am woman hear me…blurp….rah…gurgle…raha…ffftt…orr…roar…gurgle…help me…somebody…fffft…please…blurp…help…help me please!
Aharon told both ladies and fish what’s what:
I eat fish. Fish don’t eat me. My life is too precious to sacrifice it so some spoiled bitch can have a pussy pass into the life boats.
Anti Idiocy got all hypothetical-cruise-ship tough guy on us:
Anyone who attempts to keep me on a sinking ship because of the genitals with which I was born is attempting to murder me. I have the right to respond accordingly.
And Thomas Tell-truth kicked chivalry – not to mention basic human decency — to the ocean floor:
Equality means that when the ship is going down and you are a woman, you had better get out of my way or you are going to drown with my footprints on your back.
Apparently Thomas Tell-truth is actually George Costanza:
Jeb, meanwhile, offered a more scientific rationalization for being a complete douchenozzle:
As far as I’ve heard, the one and only sport in which women naturally out-do men is endurance swimming. Women are also more bouyant, and as survivalists will explain, women float easiest on their backs (making it easy to breathe while expending minimal energy) whereas men float easiest in “the dead man’s float” (ie. face down, head in the water) and must expend more energy to stay alive. Furthermore, women have more body-fat than men which insulates them better against aquatic dangers such as hypothermia.
Given all these factors it is quite rational for men to pick women up by the seat of their pants and toss them overboard to make way for men and children to safely be rowed ashore on the lifeboats.
It’s all about doing the right thing and saving lives, after all.
MRA humor is very sophisticated indeed.
EDITED TO ADD: The Spearhead has put up a followup post, once again taking aim at imaginary “lifeboat feminists,” though the only person the post cites lamenting the end of “women and children” is Rich Lowry from the National Review (not a feminist publication).
That’s what you were suggesting that I use for kabocha, right? Actually I don’t think that’s a good idea. I’m not careful enough in the kitchen, I’d end up losing a finger.
Of course I could just post the original piece, about doing the butchery, replete with comments about my looks.
It is. I suppose, the time after next I’m in SF we could arrange for a lesson. I’d hate for you to lose a finger.
and cool beans, my knife pictures were comment 1,000.
I’m not touching a knife that looks like that. Just looking at it made me wince and wonder if my phone would be handy if I needed to call 911.
Ok. I’ll come cut your squash.
I can cut it with the utility knife! It just takes some elbow grease. Good for my wrists, I suppose, and I get to keep all my fingers.
I demand pictures of our manly, not at all an MRA (yeah right) troll. Watch him post a stock photo in response.
I’m just worried about the risk of the knife getting trapped, and then snapping (well, that and I got to say, “I’ll cut your squash”, which sounds so strangely euphemistic).
Stealing it!
“hey girl, I know you’ve probably heard this before but, you have immaculate breasts. So well proportioned, not like the rest of your body at all! How’d you like to slip out for a bite to eat, then maybe we can go back to your place and I can cut your squash?” *splash* “Well atleast let me get you a new drink.”
So what you’re saying is that you want hot ladies to think that you’re Sweeney Todd?
Hey, you could try selling the idea on a PUA forum, I’m sure someone would go for it.
I think you need to add something about how the squash are too squishy, though. As is the lady would still have some self confidence left. You’re never going to get a woman to allow you to have regrettable sex with you that way.
With her, not you. Need more coffee.
“some one would go for it”
pfftt, I can be a guru with that can kind of gold! And keep it real, any association with Johnny Depp is good to have when approaching these elitist women (though I would have preferred Pitt because, well obviously).
Well the *splash* was my prediction of her probable response, so not anticipating too much dropping of self-confidence loll
Now all you need is to get ozy to write it up for you, since zie speaks fluent PUA.
Guah!…. now I can actually see it being used as a real line, not a hokey piece of banter…
You people are twisted!
I’m proud to know you.
True that.
We summon thee Ozy, zie creature of young, that you may translate our humble words into sacred writ, and together we shall defraud young men of their money, and any remaining self esteem, replacing it with self-hatred and hatred of all who are not like them!!
Sorry CassandraSays, I’d love to cut your squash but those look more like cherry tomatoes to me.
Shadow, that is so fucking beta.
First of all, you compliment her. NEVER compliment a girl until you’ve banged her at least three times, or unless it can be ambiguously interpreted as a compliment or an insult (c.f. “you are the life of the party, aren’t you?” “you’re so modest. That’s a good thing… usually.”). In particular, never compliment a girl on her physical appearance. Look at it from the perspective of a hot girl– beta males are jizzing compliments on you every time you walk outside instead of waddling. By pretending to be interested in her personality, you distinguish yourself from every other beta out there.
Ozy Maxim #362: Difference creates gina tingles.
And “I know you’ve probably heard this before?” Way to be uncertain. An alpha male doesn’t care if she’s heard it before. An alpha male doesn’t care what she thinks. It’s HER job to entertain HIM.
Also, you skip straight to the Seduction phase, bypassing Attraction and Comfort. A common aspiring PUA mistake, to be sure. But except for Apocalypse Game, it is in a seducer’s best interest to appear to be uninterested in his target– don’t address the pretty girl, address everyone. Neg the pretty girl (“is she always like this?”) when she notices you ignoring her and demands her quotient of attention and cocks crushed underfoot. The pussy wetness will flow.
D+. At least you didn’t eyefuck her from the corner of the room, slink home, and masturbate to fatty porn.
Not to mention, you offer to buy her a drink! NEVER BUY A GIRL A DRINK; that’s beta-provider behavior, not the behavior of the alpha cad who rawdogs her and jizzes all over her perfect C cup breasts while hubby is off at work trying to save enough for a $10,000
ball and chaindiamond ring. Reframe the situation: in fact, if she’s cool, she’ll buy you one.http://www.avoiceformen.com/sexual-politics/game/chateau-bullshit/
Read this and fucking learn.
PUAs aren’t MRAs. PUAs support the feminist status quo that men are barcoded prisoners and women are literally sexual Hitlers, MRAs fight against this oppression! PUAs are collaborators. They’e the Vichy French, and they should be treated just the same by any right-thinking males.
The fact that a radical feminist like Ozymandias backs “game” only further proves my point. “Game” is nothing more than a false flag operation by feminists to divide men, to keep beta and omega men from realizing they are the ones picking cotton and it’s in their best interests to support the Men’s Rights movement. Instead, gender traitors like Fartiste promote this bullshit that we should fall down and worship the almighty cuntbitch as if we should be lucky to get any scraps at the table. Oh please, can I have some more?
Mantards like David Futrelle want people to think we’re the same because he knows it makes us look bad to be lumped in with pussy-beggers. Feminism made a sexual economy that just takes and takes from men, and kills millions a day, and PUAs just sustain it while thinking they’re “gaming” the system. They’re like the “bootstrappers”.
The truth is women are the 1% when it comes to sex, and all men are the 99%. Yes, some of us might make a little more than the others, but in the end we’re ALL FUCKED.
Until feminism is destroyed, any man who plays “the game” should be considered an enemy of his own gender. We’re done humoring the pussy-beggers!
Efasfas:
“Scary man indeed. I’ll run off now.”
If that portrait is of Pecunium I’d say he has nothing to be ashamed of. Why are you posting it as if he has?
I notice that efasfas has, actually, run off. More scary than I’d have thought.
Well Pecunium I did looked back on here. You live in LA (with your 5′ killing machine friend). Want to meet?
Or are you too scared?