Most of the coverage of the Costa Concordia disaster at the moment seems to be focusing on the Italian cruise ship’s captain and his douchey behavior, which involved not only running the ship aground but also abandoning ship prestissimo while passengers remained trapped on board.
MRAs, by contrast, are using the tragedy as an excuse to rail against the notion of “women and children first” and, of course, to make jokes about women drowning.
Now, the Titanic aside, “women and children first” isn’t now, and hasn’t ever really been, the standard way to evacuate those on a sinking ship, though many in the public — including some of those who were on board the Costa Concordia – seem to believe that it is. (See here for more details on how evacuations are typically handled these days; generally only those with mobility problems are given special treatment.)
In the case of this particular evacuation, some on board apparently tried to enforce an informal “women and children” policy, but many men weren’t willing to wait.
What’s got some MRAs in a snit is that some people, in the media and online, are calling these dudes cowards. In The Daily Mail, a right-wing British tabloid, A N Wilson wrote:
[I]n our day, with the advent of feminism and the professional woman, chivalry and manners are considered stuffy and old-fashioned.
As the father of three daughters, I do not, with a single fibre of my being, wish to go back to a time when women could not have the vote or get a university degree. Nor do I, surrounded by extremely strong-charactered and intelligent women in my family and among my friends, feel tempted to regard women as the frail sex.
But the fact remains that there is a longing among most men to protect women and children, and chivalry is simply a manifestation of that longing.
And whatever transpires about the reason for the Costa Concordia disaster, the disappearance of a chivalric code is a sorry reflection on society today.
This is not what you’d call a feminist argument; it’s a traditionalist argument, published in a tabloid rag that’s generally quite hostile to feminism.
Nonetheless, some MRAs are using the Costa Concordia disaster as an opportunity to deliver a big “told you so!” to the … imaginary feminists who live in their head.
Over on The Spearhead, where one familiar commenter actually described Wilson’s Daily Mail article as “feminist,” guest poster Lyn87 wrote:
The MRM is getting more vocal, and a lot of guys are now saying, “You wanted equality. This is what it looks like.” And they are saying it aloud and in public. Even a few women chimed in, saying that men have no obligation to die for women if women want equality. (Somehow I suspect there wasn’t much, “I am woman, hear me roar, watch me drown” on the Costa Concordia itself, but hey, it’s a start.)
MRAs: Always up-to-the-minute with their pop culture references!
This post was helpfully illustrated with a stock photo of a woman drowning.
Commenters got in their digs as well.
Keyster riffed on Lyn87’s incredibly au courant Helen Reddy reference:
I am woman hear me…blurp….rah…gurgle…raha…ffftt…orr…roar…gurgle…help me…somebody…fffft…please…blurp…help…help me please!
Aharon told both ladies and fish what’s what:
I eat fish. Fish don’t eat me. My life is too precious to sacrifice it so some spoiled bitch can have a pussy pass into the life boats.
Anti Idiocy got all hypothetical-cruise-ship tough guy on us:
Anyone who attempts to keep me on a sinking ship because of the genitals with which I was born is attempting to murder me. I have the right to respond accordingly.
And Thomas Tell-truth kicked chivalry – not to mention basic human decency — to the ocean floor:
Equality means that when the ship is going down and you are a woman, you had better get out of my way or you are going to drown with my footprints on your back.
Apparently Thomas Tell-truth is actually George Costanza:
Jeb, meanwhile, offered a more scientific rationalization for being a complete douchenozzle:
As far as I’ve heard, the one and only sport in which women naturally out-do men is endurance swimming. Women are also more bouyant, and as survivalists will explain, women float easiest on their backs (making it easy to breathe while expending minimal energy) whereas men float easiest in “the dead man’s float” (ie. face down, head in the water) and must expend more energy to stay alive. Furthermore, women have more body-fat than men which insulates them better against aquatic dangers such as hypothermia.
Given all these factors it is quite rational for men to pick women up by the seat of their pants and toss them overboard to make way for men and children to safely be rowed ashore on the lifeboats.
It’s all about doing the right thing and saving lives, after all.
MRA humor is very sophisticated indeed.
EDITED TO ADD: The Spearhead has put up a followup post, once again taking aim at imaginary “lifeboat feminists,” though the only person the post cites lamenting the end of “women and children” is Rich Lowry from the National Review (not a feminist publication).
Conversations changed. So I changed with them.
Actually, you changed them. xD
We’re talking about whatever it is you want to basically, so you’re the one who decides what you feel like talking about xD
Because you sound so pissy, and only someone in the grip of fairly strong emotion would still be hung up on the Titanic, which happened 100 years ago.
(BTW, you suck at trolling. The idea is to upset and confuse people, not make them laugh at you.)
@ CassandraSays
“I’m curious as to why the whole “suck it up” philosophy doesn’t apply to, say, what happened on the Titanic.”
I have no idea what you mean by this.
It’s like a big efas therapy session xD We have a lot of exp with this. We have trolls that seem to need places to let their stuff out :3
I have a present for you, little troll.
Tell me about the girl you like efasfas! =D
efasfas | January 31, 2012 at 6:39 pm
@ CassandraSays
“I’m curious as to why the whole “suck it up” philosophy doesn’t apply to, say, what happened on the Titanic.”
I have no idea what you mean by this.
She means why do you come here angry about what happened on the Titanic and other ships when you should be sucking it up? After all, nobody here can effect any change for you.
(The whole “I tried expressing my feelings but it didn’t work!” thing was kind of a big clue.)
Joanna | January 31, 2012 at 6:41 pm
Tell me about the girl you like efasfas! =D
Yeah! 😀
It’s too bad Efas wasn’t around when I needed dating advice 🙁 I could have asked him 😀
I have a present too! 😀
Better than sucking it up :3 Happy! 😀
CassandraSays | January 31, 2012 at 6:40 pm
I have a present for you, little troll
Thank you. Can I give you one?
I’m going to be on Terraria with Elizabeth and others, if nebody here wants to join check out the secret room for details and join us 😀
(so I’m going to be a little distracted xD )
I feel like maybe no one hugged him enough as a child. Maybe we should throw him a party to make up for it!
😀
😀
Ami Angelwings | January 31, 2012 at 6:41 pm
efasfas | January 31, 2012 at 6:39 pm
@ CassandraSays
“I’m curious as to why the whole “suck it up” philosophy doesn’t apply to, say, what happened on the Titanic.”
I have no idea what you mean by this.
She means why do you come here angry about what happened on the Titanic and other ships when you should be sucking it up? After all, nobody here can effect any change for you.
I came here angry?
Here we go again…….
Sorry you got rejected, little troll.
This one, in addition to being bone-ignorant, makes me think of what would happen if Samuel or Simon learned to write.
As far as the Titanic, LET IT GO, MRAs. That ship has sailed. Or not.
CassandraSays | January 31, 2012 at 6:45 pm
I feel like maybe no one hugged him enough as a child. Maybe we should throw him a party to make up for it!
I guess now that MRAL is basically banned, we need a new troll to cuddle and try to help XD
OK, what genuis made this? Ice cream and cake for him/her, please.
Ok well angry me got to go.
Later