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MRAs and Children First: The Spearhead on the Costa Concordia disaster

From The Spearhead, where feminists dying is HILARIOUS.

Most of the coverage of the Costa Concordia disaster at the moment seems to be focusing on the Italian cruise ship’s captain and his douchey behavior, which involved not only running the ship aground but also abandoning ship prestissimo while passengers remained trapped on board.

MRAs, by contrast, are using the tragedy as an excuse to rail against the notion of “women and children first” and, of course, to make jokes about women drowning.

Now, the Titanic aside, “women and children first” isn’t now, and hasn’t ever really been, the standard way to evacuate those on a sinking ship, though many in the public — including some of those who were on board the Costa Concordia – seem to believe that it is. (See here for more details on how evacuations are typically handled these days; generally only those with mobility problems are given special treatment.)

In the case of this particular evacuation, some on board apparently tried to enforce an informal “women and children” policy, but many men weren’t willing to wait.

What’s got some MRAs in a snit is that some people, in the media and online, are calling these dudes cowards. In The Daily Mail, a right-wing British tabloid, A N Wilson wrote:

[I]n our day, with the advent of feminism and  the professional woman, chivalry and manners are considered stuffy and old-fashioned.

As the father of three daughters, I do not, with a single fibre of my being, wish to go back to a time when women could not have the vote or get a university degree. Nor do I, surrounded by extremely strong-charactered and intelligent women in my family and among my friends, feel tempted to regard women as the frail sex.

But the fact remains that there is a longing among most men to protect women and children, and chivalry is simply a manifestation of that longing.

And whatever transpires about the reason for the Costa Concordia disaster, the disappearance of a chivalric code is a sorry reflection on society today.

This is not what you’d call a feminist argument; it’s a traditionalist argument, published in a tabloid rag that’s generally quite hostile to feminism.

Nonetheless, some MRAs are using the Costa Concordia disaster as an opportunity to deliver a big “told you so!” to the … imaginary feminists who live in their head.

Over on The Spearhead, where one familiar commenter actually described Wilson’s Daily Mail article as “feminist,” guest poster Lyn87 wrote:

The MRM is getting more vocal, and a lot of guys are now saying, “You wanted equality. This is what it looks like.” And they are saying it aloud and in public. Even a few women chimed in, saying that men have no obligation to die for women if women want equality. (Somehow I suspect there wasn’t much, “I am woman, hear me roar, watch me drown” on the Costa Concordia itself, but hey, it’s a start.)

MRAs: Always up-to-the-minute with their pop culture references!

This post was helpfully illustrated with a stock photo of a woman drowning.

Commenters got in their digs as well.

Keyster riffed on Lyn87’s incredibly au courant Helen Reddy reference:

I am woman hear me…blurp….rah…gurgle…raha…ffftt…orr…roar…gurgle…help me…somebody…fffft…please…blurp…help…help me please!

Aharon told both ladies and fish what’s what:

I eat fish. Fish don’t eat me. My life is too precious to sacrifice it so some spoiled bitch can have a pussy pass into the life boats.

Anti Idiocy got all hypothetical-cruise-ship tough guy on us:

Anyone who attempts to keep me on a sinking ship because of the genitals with which I was born is attempting to murder me. I have the right to respond accordingly.

And Thomas Tell-truth kicked chivalry – not to mention basic human decency — to the ocean floor:

Equality means that when the ship is going down and you are a woman, you had better get out of my way or you are going to drown with my footprints on your back.

Apparently Thomas Tell-truth is actually George Costanza:

Jeb, meanwhile, offered a more scientific rationalization for being a complete douchenozzle:

As far as I’ve heard, the one and only sport in which women naturally out-do men is endurance swimming. Women are also more bouyant, and as survivalists will explain, women float easiest on their backs (making it easy to breathe while expending minimal energy) whereas men float easiest in “the dead man’s float” (ie. face down, head in the water) and must expend more energy to stay alive. Furthermore, women have more body-fat than men which insulates them better against aquatic dangers such as hypothermia.

Given all these factors it is quite rational for men to pick women up by the seat of their pants and toss them overboard to make way for men and children to safely be rowed ashore on the lifeboats.

It’s all about doing the right thing and saving lives, after all.

MRA humor is very sophisticated indeed.

EDITED TO ADD:  The Spearhead has put up a followup post, once again taking aim at imaginary “lifeboat feminists,” though the only person the post cites lamenting the end of “women and children” is Rich Lowry from the National Review (not a feminist publication).

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Dracula
Dracula
13 years ago

Ami always gets credit for being Ami. ‘Cause Ami is awesome.

Sarah
Sarah
13 years ago

“Also, if the house starts sinking, I have tiny lifeboats for them.”

Oh my gosh! The idea of this is soooo cute!

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

I don’t understand why the MRAs have to either obsess over an event that they can’t change & was not indicative of a trend or a precedent that set one or make up enemies to fight o_O Why not just choose a topic that actually is an issue?

Shaenon
13 years ago

Oh you do NOT talk smack about my boyfriend Sayid.

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

I mean AVfM wants to have some sort of protest against the titanic in front of the White House? o_O What do they hope will be accomplished? The government reveals they had time travel all along? xD

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

@Lauralot

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g69/lost_angelwings/bears/481eca714a6b9f8e2fbec98358c3.jpg

we should prolly caption this into some evil feminazi way too

Xardoz
Xardoz
13 years ago

I guess he’ll be back. Oh well, all we have to now is camp his spawn.

….Sorry, Geesu put me in a video game metaphor mood.:)

Hippodameia
Hippodameia
13 years ago

“No, this one’s female – we won’t have to shoot her.”

BlackBloc
BlackBloc
13 years ago

>>Can I get the credz for slaying MRAL?

Killstealer. Everybody went in and softened him up and then you just swoop in and think you can ninja loot the body? 😉

Holly Pervocracy
13 years ago

I’m enjoying the lolbearcrotch photos.

Shaenon
13 years ago

Jacques Futrelle’s indoctrination as to his own inherent worthlessness is what killed him, if he had the option to board a boat.

Okay, seriously, MRAL. Between this and saying that you’re glad people died on the Costa Concordia because it proves some weird point in your head, you need to get the fuck off the computer. You’re talking about real people here, not video-game characters.

At this point, we here at Manboobz can officially help you no further with your personal problems, even if most of us weren’t heartily sick of trying. Your problems seem to boil down to two things:

1. You have a severe lack of empathy, and are particularly resistant to the idea that other people experience pain and unhappiness as you do.

2. On a fundamental level, you don’t see women as human.

When you interact with people online, it’s easy for you to indulge in these two weaknesses. Since you don’t know us personally, you can concoct fantasies about who we are and what you imagine our lives are like (i.e., awesome*) and ignore what we’re actually telling you. And the distance of online communication makes women even easier to dehumanize.

So the Internet is no longer useful to you. Time to go out and talk to real people. Join some clubs. Hang out in the library. Go to New England Comics and that fancy hot-chocolate place in Harvard Square. Walk to the Museum of Fine Arts in Boston and go to the room where they keep the Cezanne. (If you’ve been following all the good advice I’ve been giving you over the past year, you’ll get that reference.) We can’t help you anymore. From here, you walk alone.

If you need assistance with this, you can message me on Facebook. Same screen name. But really, get the fuck off the computer for a while.

*To be honest, as a convicted criminal living alone in an apartment with a bobcat and working 56 hours a week as a street performer, my life is pretty damn good.

Xardoz
Xardoz
13 years ago

Hey, I used TAUNT and it was super effective, I deserve lootz. I wonder what he dropped.

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

When you interact with people online, it’s easy for you to indulge in these two weaknesses. Since you don’t know us personally, you can concoct fantasies about who we are and what you imagine our lives are like (i.e., awesome*) and ignore what we’re actually telling you. And the distance of online communication makes women even easier to dehumanize.

This is exactly true. I once finally got him to answer me what my life was like, how people treat me when I’m at the cashier (vs how they’d treat him), when I’m waking around, etc etc etc… and he yelled at me that he can’t know what an individual women’s life was.

When he’s forced to think of a woman as a real person, his sudden blanket idea that every woman is living Lauren Conrad’s life vanishes, but he tends to not want to think of us as actual people. -_-

zhinxy
13 years ago

Lauralot – <3

My cat is actually being castrated on Saturday, 4rlz.

Ami's kill count is totally gonna end up the highest in the guild, I bet. Whatever happens.

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

@Zhinxy are you gonna make jokes on a talk show too?

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

Did NWO ever take my challenge by the way? o:

Holly Pervocracy
13 years ago

that fancy hot-chocolate place in Harvard Square.

NO! I like that place! It’s mine!

*hunches over cocoa mug and growls*

Ami Angelwings
13 years ago

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g69/lost_angelwings/cam/July%2012%202008/IMG_5883.jpg

I wonder what evil feminazi caption could go with that xD

(i wanted to share one where I’m in costume too, but it pales to the other 2 girls xD )

hellkell
hellkell
13 years ago

MRAL, poor you. Go be disposable elsewhere.

Zarat, is “bigot” the only word you know?

I FEED MY CATS DRY FOOD BECAUSE FEMINISM.

hellkell
hellkell
13 years ago

Ami, that pic is adorable!

Holly Pervocracy
13 years ago

Ami – That picture has a woman wearing a shirt saying “Faithful.”

IRONY AMIRITE?

/can barely tell she’s sarcastic anymore

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