It’s Martin Luther King Day here in the US. So here are some thoughts from the man, from an assortment of his writings, that seem to me especially appropriate today.
Nonviolence is a powerful and just weapon … which cuts without wounding and ennobles the man who wields it. It is a sword that heals.
Nonviolence is the answer to the crucial political and moral questions of our time: the need for man to overcome oppression and violence without resorting to oppression and violence. Man must evolve for all human conflict a method which rejects revenge, aggression and retaliation. The foundation of such a method is love.
Nonviolence means avoiding not only external physical violence but also internal violence of spirit. You not only refuse to shoot a man, but you refuse to hate him.
Like an unchecked cancer, hate corrodes the personality and eats away its vital unity. Hate destroys a man’s sense of values and his objectivity. It causes him to describe the beautiful as ugly and the ugly as beautiful, and to confuse the true with the false and the false with the true.
Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
Now that we’ve had this serious moment, go take a look at Yo, Is This Racist, if you haven’t already. It’s fucking hilarious.
“Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.”
This needs to be plastered on every MRA site.
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These are awesome quotes. Here’s to you, MLK Jr.! Happy post-mortem birthday!
I’ve got nothing against ignorance – there’s no-one on the planet who isn’t ignorant of a colossal number of things. But wilful ignorance is another matter entirely.
If you’re wrong about something, that’s fine – but if you continue to push the same line even after it’s been proven to you beyond any doubt that you’re wrong, that just makes you an asshole. Or worse.
Maybe everyone here should make a pact to only reply to the trolls with those quotes. No other response, just those.
I’ve been to Yo, is this racist before and it IS hilarious. Well at least the responses to some very dumbass and clueless questions are. I really like the weekly summaries.
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I don’t understand that “Yo Is This Racist” site. What’s the context for some of these random lines?
Interesting that you posted a speech from Martin Luther King a man who I greatly admire for his struggle for civil rights, but who is also by all accounts a sexist chauvinist who opposed women playing a major role in the civil rights movement and who forced his wife into a very traditonal home maker role while perpeutally cheating on her. While none of these particularily affect my judgement of the mans achievements, I believe all people are flawed in their own way, I do see a parallel with your own condemnation of AVFM calling Tom Ball a hero for their movement. You said that by hailing Tom Ball as a hero AVFM had to also agree with his calls for violence, rather than taking the more nuanced approach that while Tom Ball may well be a beacon for men being abused by the family courts that AVFM does not have to agree and advocate with every one of his believes in order to view him as a hero.
Crumbelievable: People message him asking him if things are racist. He answers.
Ullere: Here’s the deal. “X has some beliefs I agree with and some beliefs I virulently disagree with, but fought hard and successfully for the beliefs I agree with and so I honor him, with awareness of where he fell short” is a valid statement to make. “X had some beliefs I agree with and advocates violence in support of them; I agree with the beliefs but not the violence, so he’s a hero” is not.
It’s even worse than that, ozy. It’s more like, “I agree with the beliefs and also that we must take strong measures, like he did, and also know that our enemies in this war won’t listen until we fuck their shit up. But of course we can’t advocate violence. Not with the feminazi-run government watching.”
Crumbelievable: It’s playing on the fact that many people are clueless about what racism actually *is* (example: people won’t say racist things but will perform racist actions), plus the fact that any social justice theory can be carried into absurdity. 😛
Ullare, MLK, despite his flaws, had a profound ethical vision, and worked for years against great opposition to make this world a better place. He was killed for it. His presence on the earth made life better for millions of people.
Tom Ball engaged in one act of activism, killing himself in order to encourage other men to firebomb courthouses and police stations. He was the ethical equivalent of a suicide bomber.
For sample quotes from MLK, see above.
Some sample quotes from Ball:
and this:
and this:
Here is a good read on sexism in the civil rights movement. http://www.tolerance.org/activity/sexism-civil-rights-movement-discussion-guide
Did Ullere really just compare Thomas Ball to MLK? Oh good lord.
And we’re not so inclined to take the ‘nuanced approach’ when the sort of violent rhetoric used by Elam and his AVFM cohorts would fit perfectly into Ball’s manifesto. When Elam says he doesn’t condone Ball’s actions, he’s lying through his teeth. Elam loves violence and has made his desire to see feminists suffer quite clear.
Molotov cocktails are totally nonviolent you guys!
( on opposite day)
Thanks to Ball and Manboobz, just learned how to make a Molotov cocktail. ^_^
To be fair, Kyrie, the dictionary definition basically tells you how to make one:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/molotov%20cocktail
That said, Ball went on to talk about what kind of bottle to use to make sure it works properly.
“Nonviolence is the answer to the crucial political and moral questions of our time: the need for man to overcome oppression and violence without resorting to oppression and violence. Man must evolve for all human conflict a method which rejects revenge, aggression and retaliation. The foundation of such a method is love.”
These are some fine words from MLK. For the last couple of generation men have tried to overcome womens use of State violence and personal violence backed by the State by peaceful means.Women demand revenge for a percieved oppression in history which never happened. Women are aggressive and retaliate if any man dares disagree in the slightest with whatever opinion they put forth. Mens love is met with more oppression and hate.
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“Nonviolence means avoiding not only external physical violence but also internal violence of spirit. You not only refuse to shoot a man, but you refuse to hate him.”
Hatred of man is taught by the State, in our schools, in our corporations, in the media. Womens insatiable lust to hate men is everywhere. Become an overnight millionaire by selling shirts with slogans like “boys are stupid throw rocks at them” speaks volumes about a society. Hatred of men is the driving force to selling products.
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“Like an unchecked cancer, hate corrodes the personality and eats away its vital unity. Hate destroys a man’s sense of values and his objectivity. It causes him to describe the beautiful as ugly and the ugly as beautiful, and to confuse the true with the false and the false with the true.”
The rot has flourished. Women having all the power call good evil and evil good, lies are truth and truth are lies.
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“Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.”
Nothing describes the mentality of women today who’ve been so easily led by a few men at the top. MLK spoke some fine words. I wonder if modern day women will learn from them or twist the meaning to portray women as victims?
The original molotovs generally used booze, not gas, as the flammable liquid. Hence “cocktail”.
Wow, NWO, that word salad almost makes sense. wait a sec… /me rereads… Okay, never mind, your record of bullshit, outright lies and dumbfuckery stands.
And the great NWO tradition of attempting to claim the achievements of far greater men for himself on the grounds that like them he has a penis continues. It’s particularly funny in this case for obvious reasons.
NWO, honey, racists don’t get to co-opt MLK in an attempt to support their chosen causes.
NWO – ” For the last couple of generation men have tried to overcome womens use of State violence and personal violence backed by the State by peaceful means.”
the “last couple of generations”
would take you back
past MLK.
Oh, wait, though, do you think that’s what he was talking about, and you don’t actually think you’re co-opting anything? XD
Become an overnight millionaire by selling shirts with slogans like “boys are stupid throw rocks at them” speaks volumes about a society. Hatred of men is the driving force to selling products.
NWO we went through this last summer remember? xD Where I responded with examples of boy’s and men’s shirts that joked about raping women and also told you I was against that shirt and all the problematic issues with gender roles and “girls vs boys” narratives on the playground and etc? xD And then you screamed at me that you would never talk to me again if I still believed in gender roles, and then you ran off for the rest of the day (as you tend to when I show up xD)
It’s strange cuz then you started to talk to me again later xD Kinda like when you swore that you’d never talk to me if I kept speaking the way I did, and then if I ever referred to you in the third person (he’s a weird one, that NWO xD ) and recently that you NEVER READ A THING WITH A SINGLE SMILEY ON IT RAWRRRRRR
xD
So do you want to re-hash this again? 😀 Round 2? 😀
Let’s see if you’ve done more research this time 😀
Or should we just accept that you lost on this point, that that shirt doesn’t indicate the feminist conspiracy controls the world, and move on? :3
ALSO! 😀
I HAVE A CHALLENGE FOR YOU NWO!