It’s almost impossible to catalogue all the ways men are oppressed by women in contemporary gynocratic society. There are so many! For example, did you know that men are oppressed by female characters in video games? I know, right? The last bastion of red-blooded manliness, invaded by imaginary ladies!
Luckily, the fellows at MGTOWforums.com are on the case, exposing this foul virtual misandry. I Am started off a recent discussion on the subject by asking
WTF is with empowered women in video games now? …
I see a new trend in the video/computer game world and that is the increase in strong playable female characters.
Now, I am no hardcore gamer but I do play computer games often and the recent one I have been playing recently is Shogun 2 total war. Now for those who don’t know what this game is, it is a strategy game based on the military of feudal Japan. I recently bought an upgrade for the game the other day and guess what one of the strongest military units was? Nuns. I shit you not. The nuns had an attack 20% -40% higher than most units in the game. Somehow I doubt that in real life a nun would have swung a sword or used a spear faster and harder than a feudal warlord, and this game was based on history.
Clearly nuns are incapable of manlike swordplay, though it is true that they are capable reenacting famous internet panda sneeze videos. (I have seen video proof of this.) But Shogun 2 does not depict them sneezing like pandas. It depicts them fighting.
This is an outrage because video games are meant to be a perfectly accurate reflection of reality. Obviously there is nothing even slightly unrealistic about any of this:
Most of us dudes are in fact capable of karate-chopping heads in two. We just don’t like to show off all the time.
I think I have the right to ask steam and other gaming companes: WTF with the subliminal brainwashing? What now when I buy or play a game women will be doing all the ass kicking? …
I call bullshit on this subject. Video games are the last place for guys to hang out and now women are taking over. Why not just save us the trouble and instead of eliminating our fantasy world just throw us in work camp to provide for thier bastard children (literally speaking) while they shit all over us…wait they already do that.
I Am is not the only dude who’s noticed this alarming femtrend. Goldenfetus added his observations:
I’ve noticed this too, and it drives me insane. Was co-oping Gears 3 last month and there’s a point where 2nd player has to take over a female character. Almost ruined the game for me. It may seem minor, but once you’re aware of this type of brainwashing it’s impossible to ignore. There’s no way a slim female could keep up with the massive battle-hardened male Gears in that kind of environment. They would be a liability as they are in real life combat.
Exactly! By contrast, the male characters in Gears of War 3 are all completely accurate representations of real-world men.
Goldenfetus continued:
You’ll see the same thing in most stat-based role-playing games as well, where you have the option of a female player character – like Fallout, Elder Scrolls, Mass Effect, Dragon Age, D&D, etc. The women never have any strength or intelligence penalties compared to the males. … They want to give the impression that people of any race, gender, and sexual-orientation are interchangeable – that there are no differences in ability between them, and that only a bigot could think otherwise. I’m sick of it too.
At the very least, female characters should be depicted as carriers of cooties.
Despite the very serious subject matter – video game misandry is never funny! – Xtc tried to lighten the mood with a little humor:
It would be hilarious to portray the female characters realistically. If you chose the female character in your FPS [First Person Shooter] she would have to move very slowly, dragging the gun around. You could build in some extra shake to the crosshairs to represent hopeless accuracy. Every time you needed to reload your gun, instead of just pressing a button, you’d have to find a male character and go through some flirting dialogue options to persuade him to do it for you. One out of every four missions the game would tell you that you were sitting out this one due to ‘women’s issues’.
Calloway, for his part, offered some historical perspective:
This is nothing new. I got heavy into gaming back in the late 90’s and even back then they had Tomb Raider, S.I.N., etc. Even in the original Unreal, you played as a big-breasted female.
I saw a documentary on the making of the original Tomb Raider once. The lead character, Lara Croft, was originally going to be a man. They saw him as an Indiana Jones-type character. Then, one of the designers suggested it be a woman because “if you’re going to be playing a game for hours, you might as well have something good to look at”. …
When you first take the red pill, it’s amazing the things you see. It’s as if you had blinders on before, and all of sudden they’ve been removed, allowing you to actually understand what you’ve been seeing.
Yep. And what you’ve been seeing is Lara Croft’s ass. Lara Croft’s ass oppresses men! The red pill tells me so!
Now we come to the clincher.
When you try to get romantic with the imaginary ladies in video games, they don’t act like Roissy and those dudes say ladies act. I mean, you can’t even neg them! As Dave sadly pointed out:
I remember about 12 years ago playing the Baldur’s Gate rpg series and there were some romance dialog paths between your character and some of the women who could join your group but you had to treat them very nice. You couldn’t give them any attitude or make fun of them otherwise it would be over.
Basically you have to be a total mangina towards women in most games if you want to bed them.
Even imaginary ladies are stuck up bitches!
The horror!
I had a
AKA I started replying before I finished reading your post.
CassandraSays, hellkell, katz, et al…
I could never care less if a bunch of modern women–f****d-up feminists–hate me or not. If youall do, I must be saying something right.
I am the kindest, most loving, and most gentle keeper of women and pets anywhere! I would never abandon or kill one of them unless they posed an actual and immediate danger! I love to caress, fondle, and pet and am very alert to tactile sensations.
I wouldn’t go too deeply into being creepy when you talk all the time about women as fighter pilots, astronauts, biochemists, or computer software engineers. That is creepy! Some of you have complained about my interest in collecting little lady lovelies, finding it “creepy” that a man engage a woman’s activity but consider how much more creepy and repellent it is when women, not as a personal eccentricity, but as a means of livelihood, embrace male interests and masculine skills and occupations! The hundreds of pots all calling one lone kettle “black”.!
As far as having women being critical of me, I take no interest, still less enjoyment of it. I don’t take the opinions of you so-called women seriously, as youall rarely make sense anyhow, whether you are “dommes”, feminists, modern women, or anything else. Gender equality is one more delusion all-too-common among the perverse strain of human females born after 1940 or so (the generation spawned who read stuff like the Feminine Mystique by Betty (Battleaxe) Friedan, Sexual Politics by Katie (Krackpot) Millet, or The Second Sex by Simone (Simpleton) de Bouvoir. More evidence that modern women(?) are overeducated! Youall became worse with the second generation after 1966 or so, and the generation born in the ’80s–Ms. Having it alls–are barely human at all! Talk about creepy!
Ok player.
If you think that that is why we find you creepy, then you are even worse at reading comprehension than i thought.
I really don’t understand why the concept of “Women as a whole are just as capable as men, possess free will, and want to do as they like” is so abhorrent to you.
DKM: You say you are a “keeper of women and pets.”
A KEEPER. You equate women with animals, to be KEPT and controlled by men. You want to enslave women.
That is what makes you vile, not your doll collection.
Oh, and here we go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nllCZI1XoE&feature=related
I am the kindest, most loving, and most gentle keeper of women and pets anywhere! I would never abandon or kill one of them unless they posed an actual and immediate danger! I love to caress, fondle, and pet and am very alert to tactile sensations.
Well done, Meller! You’ve raised the Creepy Bar with this one. I don’t regret my decision to vote for you as troll of the year. I think you’re going to take 2012!
Ew.
How can one be “overeducated?” You either are or you aren’t.
Yeah, I saw keeper and had a completely WTF women. Then I realised that this is the dude that thinks women are tricked by feminism into believing that they are capable of HUMAN thought! So clearly women are neither human nor capable of autonomy (though someone needs to inform Meller that there’s a world of wildlife that is not domesticated who can handle themselves fine without humanity (better actually, but you know, baby steps)).
*whoops, that should read “WTF moment” not “WTF women” :$
So, I’m just asking, but how sure are we that Meller is humane?
*human
Meller – “Some of you have complained about my interest in collecting little lady lovelies, finding it “creepy” that a man engage a woman’s activity”
HEEE! No, that’s not the problem. There’s plenty of awesome guy doll collectors. The problem is the constant talking about fondling them and perfuming them and how they love you, and they’re your harem, and they’re smarter and better than us…
Unless you think that’s what women doll collectors do? Or if not, can you explain the role model thingy?
Oh, will you please please just answer me about what you think women doll collectors do????
PRETTY PLEASE, OH GENTLE KEEPER OF PETS AND WOMEN???
p.s.
Here we see some of the effects of time travelling Betty Friedan on poor, unsuspecting lovely Victorian founders of Libertarianism –
-Voltarine DeCleyre.
Meller, quick question, you kept throwing her in as a “Name”, but you really had no idea who she was or what she argued for, yes?
Kyrie – Suggestions have included Vampire and Leprechaun.
I am just going to ignore that you put women and pets on the same level…….
“I am just going to ignore that you put women and pets on the same level…….”
And modern women (aka real women) are beneath pets. Who themselves are beneath dolls Who are beneath Meller.
Like many feminists and modern women today, Voltairine deClayre focused upon only the worst aspects of marriage and domesticity of her time. I suppose that, having a point to make, she had her reasons for doing so, but it didn’t have anything to do with her antistate philosophy, it merely showed that some of the marriages then–like now–were flawed by poverty, brutality, and lovelessness.
I think that is a fair assesment of V deC’s criticisms of marriage, the family and the State.
By the way, Zhinxi, I agree with her, and think that an obviously irreparable marriage should be discontinued, and I also think that the women of her time–and perhaps ours–could have used better protection from brutality or “rape”. My suggestions offered elsewhere, such as family recovery of abused wives and children, along with the availability of the services of professional and contractual Conflict resolution/arbitration agencies, and so on could have provided them and the families involved, with far better protection, and done so better than the divorce, women’s shelter, and anti-DV prosecutions on tap in contemporary statist/feminist law and culture!
This would even work to prevent what is a tragedy in our kind of society; making it clear to would-be abusers that he would lose everything if he behaved brutally toward those who relied upon him for love and protection! Also let him try to get remarried again, once word got around that he was untrustworthy and even dangerous as a possible husband!
Same thing for a woman, if she should turn out to be pathological!
I hope that this answered any questions that you have regarding me, V, deC, feminism, and liberty.
“A stitch in time, saves nine!”
mellerverse is very complicated…..
Why the “”?
I know we are buried far too deep to talk about the OP, but as someone who deeply loves video games as a medium, I can’t help but to speak on it.
As has probably been repeated several times upthread, there are some parts of the video game community that have a serious sexism problem. One example that stands out is when I was watching EVO2K11 (for those who don’t know, EVO is the world’s biggest fighting game tournament), an MTF player who goes by the handle Kayopolice was up. The sexist comments on the chat stream below the video feed were…ugh. Then one person pointed out that she is trans (of course, this person used…much less acceptable words to describe this). Then the comments got so bad I had to find a different livestream that didn’t have a chat feed (or at least one I could scroll my browser in a way as to not see it). What scares me is that Capcom has left it up to this same community to decide the (assigned at birth) gender of the former Final Fight enemy and now recurring character Poison.
*scrolls down the thread, takes out DKM scorecard*
Statement either implicitly or explicitly saying women should be “owned” by men, check.
(this time, it was comparing women to domesticated animals)
An utter divorce from reality, check.
An overinflated opinion of himself…well, if this was a bingo card that would be the free space
Saying that certain genders can’t do “men’s jobs”, check
Distortion of history…nothing so bad I can check it off this time
Use of phrases like “women(?)”, check
More then 5 exclamation points in a post…not this time.
I fail to comprehend what life is like in the Meller zone. In the past, you’ve shown your grasp of history is radically different from any I know about. IIRC, you claim you’re a libertarian (or was that slavey), yet you are grasping for a return to an enforced version of what Meller history says is traditionalism, coupled with the option of a “voluntary” brothel for females who don’t toe in line as submissive creatures of fluff and a lack of personal will. Also, you often claim women are naturally feminine simply for being women (and conversely, men are not simply for being men). In the immortal words of Franziska von Karma, “where’s your evidence?”
@Kyrie
I see what you did there! …. eww
Meller: You don’t understand how describing yourself as a ‘keeper’ of women is creepy? Really? Lord and Lady, if you weren’t such a pathetic fuckwit, I might find the energy to feel sorry for you…
Meller: I am the kindest, most loving, and most gentle keeper of women…
Just how many women you keepin’?
Women are people. You think acknowledging that is, “creepy”? They are independent beings, sapient, and everything. As Kant said, to be moral one must treat other people as ends, not means.
You don’t seem to be able to do that. You are a morally incompetent individual.
>>it didn’t have anything to do with her antistate philosophy
You’re ridiculous. The entire critique of marriage from an anarchist perspective by V. de C. and Emma Goldman were *directly* the result of their antistate philosophy. Marriage is a *statist contract* under which a woman is chattel property to a man. That was the entirety of the objection to marriage by anarchists. That was the starting point of the critique. That was why they objected to women’s suffrage, that was why they campaigned for contraception and abortion and free love.
http://dwardmac.pitzer.edu/Anarchist_Archives/goldman/aando/marriageandlove.html
You have to be the worst of revisionists not to understand that the early American libertarians (all self-described socialists, BTW, including Benjamin Tucker who you and the other right-wing libertarians have a peculiar hard-on for) generally championned ideas that run counter to your ridiculous gender traditionalism.