The Men’s Rights Movement now has a theme song! A couple of talented young men calling themselves Jade Michael and the FTSU Singers Crew have put together a catchy little grunge rock number they call Go My Own Way, which will now serve as the opening music for the A Voice for Men internet radio show.
As AVfM head cheese Paul Elam puts it, straining his prose-generating abilities to the breaking point as he attempts to find words eloquent enough to describe this new musical masterpiece:
Jade Michael, artist, professional musician and MRA, founder of Artistry Against Misandry, has taken his talent hammer and given it a mighty swing to our benefit. He has forged, in the fires of his own passion, the new theme song for AVfM Radio, titled Go My Own Way. It is not to be confused with the similarly titled offering from Fleetwood Mac, Go Your Own Way. No, not in the least. Jade, with his band, Jade Michael and the FTSU Crew, have produced a veritable anthem for the red pill crowd. It is replete with a great, purist rock sound, a touch of humor, attitude, and a ton of gut level, red pill honesty. Pay close attention to the end for the invocation of Thomas James Ball.
Without further ado, here’s the song:
You can find the full lyrics on YouTube and on AVfM. But I thought I’d share a few of my favorite bits.
The song starts off by addressing one of the most savage injustices faced by men today: evil ladies who expect men to hold doors open for them.
And we’re through with holding doors
Entitlements abound
You say that we still hold you down
And you cop that attitude
No remorse or gratitude
Seriously, ladies, would it hurt you to say “thank you” once in a while, to the men who literally enable you to walk through walls, by holding open the doors you would otherwise be unable to open? To paraphrase Barbie: Doors are hard!
Then there’s this bit:
You’re obsessed with my ability
I won’t be your utility
I’ll never carry you
And I sure won’t marry you
Women around the world, consider what you’re losing here: no longer can you expect to marry guys who hate you so much they made a song about how they won’t hold doors open for you!
And let’s not forget:
Cos’ the time has come to fuck your shit up
The time has come to fuck your shit up
The time has come to fuck your shit up
Perhaps I’m missing some of the subtleties here, but this sort of suggests to me that Jade and the Gang are not so much Men Going Their Own Way as they are Men Still Hanging Around Acting Like Assholes — not MGTOW but MSHAALA.
I appreciate the efforts of Jade Michael and the MSHAALA, but I can’t really help but think of this little song-and-dance number, from the excellent Belgian horror film Calviare (The Ordeal), as the Men’s Rights movement’s unofficial anthem.
In case you’re wondering, this scene makes a little bit more sense in the context of the movie itself. A little bit. It’s actually quite a brilliant little film with some interesting gender stuff going on in it, if you can deal with fairly violent horror films. But, oh my lord, TRIGGER WARNINGS for pretty much every trigger there is.
NOTE: In case you’re wondering about the song’s reference to Thomas Ball: Ball burned himself to death outside a courthouse in Keane, New Hampshire last year in a protest against what he saw as unfair treatment in family court. He hoped that his suicide would inspire other men to start firebombing courthouses and police stations. (This wasn’t mere rhetoric; in the lengthy manifesto he left behind he provided tips on how to make effective Molotov cocktails.) Naturally, many in the MRM have hailed him as a martyr for Men’s Rights.
Well, shit. I guess takebacks make it allllllllllllllllllll go away.
Ham – @ zhinxy
Practically/coming close; what’s the difference?
And my defensiveness and condescending tone came after the accusation, didn’t they?
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Errrrr… HAM? That’s the whole point. When an ally is “accused!” they aren’t supposed to get defensive and condescending.
Being defensive and condescending at any time really never does anybody any good, but especially not when you’ve had a call-out. If you start talking about thought policing, oversensitivity, lockstep, unfairness, and variants etc, I will have to take shots, and I like my liver.
I find that really fucking infuriating. No matter what women do they are blamed. Act a little too cautious? OMGMISANDRY. Don’t act cautious enough and happen to get raped? well then what WERE you thinking going out with him, having a drink or daring to think that you wont get raped?
These conflicting messages need to stop and until society and law enforcement tackles rape effectively and drops the victim blaming, then him and his fee-fees can stay far away from women. Please don’t give up on him though. Maybe try to explain to him why women are cautious and why we feel the need to protect ourselves due to messages that it’s always going to be blamed on us regardless. Maybe he’ll get it since you’re one of the “good women.” I also find it especially shitty that he’s behaving in such a way regarding a woman meeting someone off the fucking internet. Who knows who you’re meeting off of the internet is who you really think they are?
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There is quite a bit of difference in the ordinary use of those terms, I would say, but it’s kind of academic now, since you’re rapidly closing that gap.
@ zhinxy
I should have placed the word allegedly before “defensive and condescending”
I don’t feel a need to “defend” myself from you or anyone else on this site. There was an attack on my integrity – I responded. You and some others got involved, reminiscent of an MRA “circle-jerk”. I’m not interested in continuing this.
I’m off to read the new post. Enjoy the view from your high ground. And well done on not championing your anti-MRA credentials.
@Quackers
Yeah, I just don’t know what to do, really. Any sort of conflict will immediately spread to the greater family, and I’m going to be labelled a trouble-maker, but I also don’t want to be selfishly looking out for #1 when he could hurt people, including himself… I HAVE MANY FEELINGS ON THIS MATTER.
Wow. That was an 8.3 I’d say. We’re like circle jerking MRA’s, I have a high ground to view you from, I didn’t champion my credentials (????? Certificate?), and it was your INTEGRITY! that was attacked, not a call out. (We accused you of embezzlement, perhaps?), And of course, you’re not interested.
Actually, maybe an 8.7
Excellent huffing.
ALLEGED huffing, sorry, since I haven’t taken you to Tone Court and got it all settled.
I’ll give it a 7, zhinxy. A flounce to a new thread, that’s a new one.
LOL. This isn’t the place for that. Read the header of the site for the love of little green apples.
Hey, we’re not hardcore enough!!!
@Viscaria
*hugs* I understand. I hope things work out between you both and he eventually realizes that his thinking is fucked up on the matter.
Happy: those who have read on the site know that MRAL is 19 and at BU (I suppose we could be all paranoid and think he’s lying, but why bother). I don’t really care about his age, but it was the reason some people were willing to cut him some slack (unlike the much older DKM and NWO). People can be assholes in their adolescence, and can change.
In response to the rest of your comments on MY comments; you can fuck off. I don’t give a rat’s ass what YOU think about my tone, or anything else because I think your theories on the MRA and strategic responses and anything else are so much bullshit and verging on MRA apologism.
If David wants to talk to me about my tone or what I write he can; I’d also listen to a few other people here who I have come to know (virtually speaking) and trust. You sound like another troll, and it’s not up to YOU to decide whether you’re “lecturing” or not. you were, and you deserved pushback, asshole.
@Hellkell, Viscaria, and Zhinxy: Ooh, my, you’re right. This whole exchange is so much like the exchange with…..that other guy whose name I don’t recall, right down to the “you haz attacked my INTEGRITY.”
I like the idea of my withering stare being so powerful, *G*.
I take what is written very seriously, and like Hellkell said, the “be nice to the poor man and he’ll be nice to you” is so endemic and trite–the thing that kills me (metaphorically!) about all these dudez is how they seem to think they’re contributing something original to the discussion, when they’re not, and then get all huffy when that’s pointed out. Just shows their privilege.
@Viscaria: I am very sorry to hear about your cousin–the brief picture of him dancing with the very young you at Christmas in contrast to what you see him doing now is sad. There are a whole bunch of reasons I’m not in touch with the cousins I have on my father’s side, and their inheritance of our grandfather’s sexism and racism is just one of them I hope that you and he can manage to connect somehow, without major family explosions.
@MRAL: No guarantees about anyone else, but I do not hate you–you’re not important enough to me to hate. You have no power over me, and no way to affect my life, and I’d suspect that is true of a number of the regulars here. I do feel contempt for you, and I get frustrated that you cannot just leave, as you keep saying you’re doing, and do what others have suggested–find other sites to interact with people.
So don’t give yourself airs–you’re not important enough to be hated.
Speaking of men creating art with relevance to gender issues: go here to see author Jim Hines trying to post in the same ways women fantasy heroes are posed!
MRAL, you should especially consider looking at them because you seem to have so little connection to actual reality and how much mass media shapes your views about gender (and everything else of course).
Jim Hines ROCKS MY SOCKS OFF.
I think that my feelings are as important as women’s.
Oh, fuck you. One thing you’ve made abundantly clear during your time here is that you think your feelings are far more important than anyone’s.
I had a brief but nice conversation with Jim at Windycon right before one of his readings… it’s always encouraging to find good writers who are also likeable human beings. 🙂
“The time has come to fuck your shit up. Eloquent stuff. Christ, I thought they’d been fucking my shit up all my life, but now they’re really going to fuck my shit up. I’m scared.”
What I’ve deduced from this video, given Elam’s “Women are not self-sufficient” line and girlsayswhat’s pathetic explanation, is this:
Women have the potential to be self-sufficient like men.
However, all because of feminists, women are not self-sufficient. They rely on what NWO calls “Big Daddy” to solve all their problems. Poor men, on the other hand, get nothing.
If I go my own way, you’ll be forced to be self-sufficient. This will fuck up your shit.
Therefore, going my own way is fucking up your shit because if I go my own way, you won’t have me to support you (because you’re dependent on me)
This in itself is, while crude, pathetic, and wrongheaded, not disturbing to me. What’s disturbing is that the song is clearly dedicated to a man who encouraged people to throw Molotovs at courthouses. But Elam insists that “fucking your shut up” merely involves making a life choice and is not violent at all. MRAs want to have their hate-cake and eat it too.
Crumbelievable: The thing is… Elam is also saying he will do things (and encourage others) which will make life harder in an active way (acquit all rapists) as well as his “theories” about rape being legal is the same as affirmative action.
He’s not telling the truth when he says “fucking women’s shit up” is a passive action of his life choice.
Adding to the chorus that doesn’t hate MRAL – hate is reserved for people I feel strongly about, and who are important. You’re just a stupid, spoiled kid who thinks he’s the center of the universe, his feeling are more important than other people’s feeling, etc. There are lots of kids like you. Many of them grow out of it, but unless/until they do they’re not worth bothering with other than to mock if they’re being particularly ridiculous (as you frequently are).
@Pecunium:
I understand that. Elam is a nut and I’m seriously afraid of him. I’m pointing out the hypocrisy inherent in his ideology. Sorry if I didn’t make that clear.
@ Crumb
Elam is a nut, yes. I would dearly love to know more about his background. He has become the high Priest of the MRM, a David Duke type figure. I think he is striking out in increasingly ridiculous ways to try to get someone high profile to sue him – he is slightly more sophisticated than a typical MRA, but craves negative attention and perverse solidarity of the MRM as any of them.
I saw on another site once that he is father to daughters and is in a ten year relationship.
What a wonderful homelife they all must have.
Just read the Captain Awkward thread where the letter writer’s father hit her and she was asking for advice about what to do, and it made a lightbulb go off in terms of why I finally lost my patience with MRAL.
This thing where he’s abusive to people for months, and then sort of says sorry, and then shortly afterwards starts being abusive towards women here again, but with slightly less profanity, kind of easing into the return to abusive language if you will, and then when people protest tries to make it all about how it is in fact them who are hurting and victimizing him by objecting – it’s a classic abuser behavior pattern. I’ve seen this before, which is why my subconscious was going WAIT, WOAH, LOOK AT WHAT THIS DUDE IS TRYING TO GET AWAY WITH, IF WE LET HIM HE’S GOING TO KEEP DOING IT.
Now it’s quite possible that he doesn’t realise what he’s doing, but you know what? I don’t care. Protecting the many people here who’ve been victims of abuse in the past is far more important than protecting the feelings of one guy who’s actually showing pretty clear signs of an abusive personality in the making.
We can’t let him get away with apologizing and then going right back to his old behavior, folks. Not just because it would make this environment unpleasant for a lot of other people, but because if we do what he’s going to learn from that is that he can be abusive to women and get away with it as long as he semi-apologizes occasionally.
The catch, asshole, is that I am not in fact being abusive, but merely have had the temerity to disagree with the masses sometimes, upon which moment everyone dogpiles me and starts abusing ME verbally, and making ME feel like this is all my fault, which seems like textbook emotional abuse. Fuck you. I’m sick of being belittled and made fun of.
You’ve been insulting and belittling people on here for months on end, even when they try to help you, and you call this not being abusive? You call women elitist bitches for not thinking the right people are hot, you spend several posts speculating about what STIs someone has, you offer half-assed non-apologies then turn right around and do it all over again, and you seriously fucking think you haven’t been abusive? Further proof that you only give a shit about yourself.
These people that are “dog-piling” on you are the same people that been putting up with your shit for a long time. Not everyone is willing to put up with it anymore.
Further proof that you’re a fucking asshole. I apologized for using the term “elitist bitches”, that one single time, and that should be enough. I’m done discussing it. Other than that, I’ve been nothing but patient in the face of dozens of assholes calling me dozens of names, and I understand that I have a history but now that said assholes are starting to speculate about my “abusive personality”, when it is in fact me who is being abused, because of what I’m saying NOW (ie, disagreeing and then being dogpiled), well that’s something I won’t stand for.
You keep saying you apologized. You didn’t. You offered a justification. Not the same thing. And I rather think it’s up the people you offended to decide what’s “enough”, not you.
People are sick of your shit, and they don’t respect you because you don’t respect them.