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The All-Singing, All-Dancing Men’s Rights Movement

Not a picture of Jade Michael and the FTSU Crew

The Men’s Rights Movement now has a theme song! A couple of talented young men calling themselves Jade Michael and the FTSU Singers Crew have put together a catchy little grunge rock number they call Go My Own Way, which will now serve as the opening music for the A Voice for Men internet radio show.

As AVfM head cheese Paul Elam puts it, straining his prose-generating abilities to the breaking point as he attempts to find words eloquent enough to describe this new musical masterpiece:

Jade Michael, artist, professional musician and MRA, founder of Artistry Against Misandry, has taken his talent hammer and given it a mighty swing to our benefit.  He has forged, in the fires of his own passion, the new theme song for AVfM Radio, titled Go My Own Way. It is not to be confused with the similarly titled offering from Fleetwood Mac, Go Your Own Way. No, not in the least. Jade, with his band, Jade Michael and the FTSU Crew, have produced a veritable anthem for the red pill crowd. It is replete with a great, purist rock sound, a touch of humor, attitude, and a ton of gut level, red pill honesty. Pay close attention to the end for the invocation of Thomas James Ball.

Without further ado, here’s the song:


You can find the full lyrics on YouTube and on AVfM. But I thought I’d share a few of my favorite bits.

The song starts off by addressing one of the most savage injustices faced by men today: evil ladies who expect men to hold doors open for them.

And we’re through with holding doors
Entitlements abound
You say that we still hold you down
And you cop that attitude
No remorse or gratitude

Seriously, ladies, would it hurt you to say “thank you” once in a while, to the men who literally enable you to walk through walls, by holding open the doors you would otherwise be unable to open? To paraphrase Barbie: Doors are hard!

Then there’s this bit:

You’re obsessed with my ability
I won’t be your utility
I’ll never carry you
And I sure won’t marry you

Women around the world, consider what you’re losing here: no longer can you expect to marry guys who hate you so much they made a song about how they won’t hold doors open for you!

And let’s not forget:

Cos’ the time has come to fuck your shit up
The time has come to fuck your shit up
The time has come to fuck your shit up

Perhaps I’m missing some of the subtleties here, but this sort of suggests to me that Jade and the Gang are not so much Men Going Their Own Way as they are Men Still Hanging Around Acting Like Assholes — not MGTOW but MSHAALA.

I appreciate the efforts of Jade Michael and the MSHAALA, but I can’t really help but think of this little song-and-dance number, from the excellent Belgian horror film Calviare (The Ordeal), as the Men’s Rights movement’s unofficial anthem.

In case you’re wondering, this scene makes a little bit more sense in the context of the movie itself. A little bit. It’s actually quite a brilliant little film with some interesting gender stuff going on in it, if you can deal with fairly violent horror films. But, oh my lord, TRIGGER WARNINGS for pretty much every trigger there is.

NOTE: In case you’re wondering about the song’s reference to Thomas Ball:  Ball burned himself to death outside a courthouse in Keane, New Hampshire last year in a protest against what he saw as unfair treatment in family court. He hoped that his suicide would inspire other men to start firebombing courthouses and police stations. (This wasn’t mere rhetoric; in the lengthy manifesto he left behind he provided tips on how to make effective Molotov cocktails.) Naturally, many in the MRM have hailed him as a martyr for Men’s Rights.

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mythago
12 years ago

but lately, whenever I express one, everyone starts personally attacking me, no matter how accomodating and friendly I try to be

But you’re getting the attention you want, so what’s your beef?

Need to know
12 years ago

So, by MRAL’s logic- all those women he thought were big meanies to him were really just contributing to his robustness, right?

You know, I’ve been able to take part in robust conversations in various ways and various places for longer than he’s been alive. Shocking, I know. However did my friends and I manage without some spiteful rage-addict dumping his shitty attitude all over our discussions of life, love, books, history, food, family, science, school, work, movies, music, special effects, theater, travel, tattoos, beer, politics, activism, craft, art, fight choreography, costuming, gardening, relationships, pre-natal development, law school, computers, cocktail recipes, camping, fire dancing safety, photography, color theory, social justice, calligraphy, favorite places to eat, agate hunting, old school roleplaying games with dice, hat-making, television, concerts, hiking, pet care, astronomy, folklore, conventions, the Black Death, woodworking, the military, Cirque de Soliel, teaching, fishing, small group dynamics, glass blowing, home repair, funeral planning, martial arts, medieval dance, blogging or… well, anything, really?

If only we’d had someone to call us names to add to the robustness of our conversations.

Sorka
Sorka
12 years ago

This is woefully off-topic, but Thom Yorke lives in my neighbourhood. He comes into the local restaurant a lot, as well as the deli where my partner works. His kids are cute and look a bit like him. :3

jumbofish
jumbofish
12 years ago

Well, I don’t see why it’s such a big deal after I’ve apologized. Everyone takes this stuff so personally

Sorry doesn’t always cut it especially when you didn’t really mean it. Even if you did say sorry no one has to forgive you. You seem to think of your apology as a get out of jail free card for everything you have done and will do. Its not.

Also “taking it to personally”? ha don’t make me pull up some of the things you have said to the people here. I was reading the manboobz archive a while ago and oh man the stuff you said….

(5 bucks says he will be back in a day or two)

jumbofish
jumbofish
12 years ago
Sandra
Sandra
12 years ago

The time has come to fuck your shit up. Eloquent stuff. Christ, I thought they’d been fucking my shit up all my life, but now they’re really going to fuck my shit up. I’m scared.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

Meanwhile, since Jumbofish is already compiling the examples of MRAL being an evil asshole, I’m going to continue compiling examples of him making a complete fool of himself by rage-typing at people. Just in the last week or so we have “now you all have big boobs all of a sudden just because I like them? hah!”, “women who don’t think Russell Brand is super hot are arrogant”, and “Thom Yorke and I would be besties if we met”. Oh, and also “Creep is totally about what elitist bitches women are, look at Radiohead holding them accountable!”.

Did I miss anything?

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

I eagerly await the next missive in which OK Computer is a secret coded message about Tits or GTFO, You Hypergamous Bitches.

Happy Anti-MRA
Happy Anti-MRA
12 years ago

Re MRAL

He has issues – I think he has something of a lapse.

I think everyone on this site should consider him to be like an annoying relative who is flirting with the MRM and trying to be good people. Perhaps his constant exposure to the constant paranoia and angry complaining of MRAs has damaged his social interaction skills.

Where is he from? Could someone just take him bowling? Holly?

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

Certainly exposure to the MRM can’t be helping, but the thing is, he ISN’T family. We’re not obliged to coddle, protect, and nurture him. Plus we kind of tried and he was back to slinging insults at us within a couple of weeks.

Sorka
Sorka
12 years ago

I’m not sure Thom Yorke thinks women are elitist bitches. His partner is a woman. What I do know about Thom Yorke is that he likes to wear a woolly hat at all times, even in summer.
Also, I like this video:

MRAL seems very young to me. And possibly intentionally saying mental/offensive things for attention.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

I’m pretty sure that Yorke is a decent guy who doesn’t have any particular issues with women (via business contacts who’ve dealt with him). MRAL, on the other hand, keeps reminding me of a former coworker who was prone to rants about how no one liked him and he couldn’t keep a girlfriend and blah blah, and then one day a woman who’d known him for years (she was married to his brother) turned around and said “the reason that you’re unhappy is that you’re an asshole”. And everyone just kind of shrugged and went “yep, that does explain the whole people not liking you thing”.

If there’s any life lesson that the folks here can teach MRAL it’s that if you’re continually a jerk to people they will eventually tell you to fuck off, and if you keep doing that for long enough you’re going to have a very lonely life.

Happy Anti-MRA
Happy Anti-MRA
12 years ago

Yeah, MRAL will be very young, I’d imagine.

And you’re right, he isn’t family. But he is vulnerable and perhaps deserving of some understanding?

I’ve said it before – I think the vast majority of MRAs are transitional. They hang around for a while and then get burned out. There remains a hardcore who have invested too much in it – they are tragic, but there are at most a few dozen. The remainder seem to be people like MRAL; sad, rather than bad.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

Eh, we tried and he was back to his old ways within weeks, which is part of why so many people are so annoyed with him now. If anyone feels like counselling him they’re welcome to do so, but I really don’t think it’s cool to suggest that we (a group of mostly women) should extend patience and understanding to a man who calls women bitches because of their sexual choices and bellittles rape victims, or that he “deserves” any such understanding.

In terms of the transitional thing, frankly I think a sharp dose of “keep acting and talking like this and women will hate you for real and you will spend the rest of your life alone whether you want to or not” may do men going through that phase some good. Even if it doesn’t, it’s not my job to save them from themselves, or anyone else’s.

zhinxy
12 years ago

CassandraSays – “but I really don’t think it’s cool to suggest that we (a group of mostly women) should extend patience and understanding to a man who calls women bitches because of their sexual choices and bellittles rape victims, or that he “deserves” any such understanding.”

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@Happy Anti MRA – That. So much that. And it’s been done. It’s been done for MONTHS, despite how much he doesn’t deserve it.

The amount of compassion and understanding shown to that fucking shitstain has been truly incredible, and going on with it in the face of his continued douchieness and throwing it back in people’s faces is way more than anybody should suggest is the thing to do.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

There’s also the fact that if he doesn’t learn that he can’t get away with just lashing out at women whenever he feels like it while it’s still verbal only it may eventually escalate to something more than verbal lashing out. The suggestion that Holly should go hang out with him had me going “oh hell no!”, because frankly I would be a little concerned for her safety given some of the shit that he’s said to her in the past when he’s been in frustrated tantrum mode.

For both his own sake and the sake of the people around him he has to learn that this kind of behavior is not acceptable right now, before it gets any worse and fucks up his life and the lives of others in ways more serious than hurt feelings on the internet.

Happy Anti-MRA
Happy Anti-MRA
12 years ago

@ Cassandra

I think Holly would be absolutely fine. I reckon MRAL, like the vast majority of MRAs, would be frightened and shy of a confident woman. But I understand your concern.

MRAL is a character in his own attention seeking play.

As a site, everyone should agree to ignore him and he’ll go away, or else just continue to smother him in kindness. He’s admitted that he thrives on negative attention (like most MRAs), so it’s encouraging him to rise to his vile bait.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

No. Firstly because as you can see, some of us are completely out of patience with him. Secondly because this whole smother the raging beast with kindness and maybe it will become less raging is a. really sexist if women are the ones being asked to do it for an angry man and b. potentially dangerous and/or harmful in other ways to the women being asked to do it. Sure, many of the ragey guys in question may be ragey only on the internet where nobody can actually yell at them, but it only takes one who actually is dangerous to hurt you, and it’s emotional work that there’s no reason women should be expected to do for a man who is a stranger to them.

Women should not ever be expected to risk their physical, emotional, or mental safety or good health in order to soothe men’s rage. There are actual, bona-fide abuse victims on this site. To ask them to be “understanding” of MRAL’s rage-filled lashing out is not OK. We are neither his therapists not his social workers.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

Addendum – the guys here shouldn’t be expected to tolerate his tantrums and coddle his hurty feelings either. As you can see, Dracula at least appears to have also hit the “nope, I’m done with you” point.

zhinxy
12 years ago

CassandraSays – “Women should not ever be expected to risk their physical, emotional, or mental safety or good health in order to soothe men’s rage. There are actual, bona-fide abuse victims on this site. To ask them to be “understanding” of MRAL’s rage-filled lashing out is not OK. We are neither his therapists not his social workers.”

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Fucking yes this.

And seriously, Happy Anti-MRA, you’re telling us sometihng we’ve already “tried” – He clearly doesn’t just thrive on negative attention, because he’s been around with a lot of kindness and patience thrown his way. The little shit is going to keep crawling back and going “why are you so ANGRY idungetit” whatever we do, even if it IS kindness. Which it has been. Incredibly often.

Quackers
Quackers
12 years ago

While I understand what you’re trying to say Happy Anti-MRA, I gotta agree with Cassandra. Women are too often told be nice, give random guys a chance when they made it very clear that they don’t deserve it (like MRAL), and anything but being a nice little doormat means you’re a bitch. Well so be it then. I don’t see why we have to coddle an adult. I don’t see why I should feel sympathy for a person who thinks I or other women don’t have the right to date who we’re attracted to and express that without being called arrogant bitches. (yeah MRAL, I don’t find Russel Brand attractive either. Sue me.) Especially when they themselves have talked about how ugly older women are and how vaginas are gross and ugly looking. I don’t see why I should give even a minute of my time to someone who believes women always lie about rape.

I’ll be blunt. I hate misogynists. I hate them with every fiber of my being and I don’t feel a shred of sympathy for them. These filthy excuses for human beings think they have the right to demand sex from any woman they please and when they don’t get it they think that gives them free reign to be assholes towards women and talk about enslaving us simply so they can be guaranteed a fuck slave and domestic servant. They think it’s acceptable to remove women’s right to vote if the government isn’t the kind they want. These are people that think it’s acceptable to torture women because they don’t like it when women express differing opinions from theirs. These are people who openly talk about taking away women’s rights because they don’t get to force women to do what they want. Would anyone else accept this behavior if they were talking about another race? would we tell other minorities to just be kind to the people who literally want to enslave them or wipe them out? somehow I doubt it. MRAL had his chance to redeem himself and he blew it, and to be quite honest I still don’t completely believe that he isn’t trolling. It’s been proven regardless of how nice we are to him, he just reverts back into being a prick then vaguely apologizes for having a bad day or something. What BS. I’m surprised David hasn’t just banned him already.

Quackers
Quackers
12 years ago

Also if that sounds angry, it’s not directed at you Happy Anti-MRA so much as it is me thinking about all the examples of misogyny I’ve seen on the manosphere and the stuff documented on this blog. Can’t think about it too long or I start to get very pissed off. The reason it’s tolerable on Manboobz is because it’s being ridiculed and there’s a good community on here minus the trolls. On it’s own though it’s disgusting.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

@ Zhinxy – Yeah, this conversation would be considerably less annoying if the hugs-and-supportive-kisses approach hadn’t already been tried and failed. In fact what he seems to have taken away from that is “hey, I can be as much of a jerk to and about women as I like if I just make them feel sorry for me!’.

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