Over on the always repugnant In Mala Fide, a guest blogger by the name of What is To Be Done recently offered his comrades in the โanti-establishment / man/ biorealist / HBD/ reactionary / racist / patriarch / tradcon / whatever blogosphereโ what he evidently sees as a revolutionary suggestion: instead of trying to fight the evil feminists with โwell-reasoned arguments,โ why not simply set up fake feminist blogs, and post shit on them to make feminists looks bad?
WITBD explained:
On the Internet,ย nobody knowsย youโre a saboteur. We are naturally smarter than the feminists (in fact, objectively better in every conceivable way), and in addition, we are well-trained in deception by our studies of game. In other words, itโll be a piece of cake for us to mimic their arguments and appear to them as really smart girls who really know their shit.
Really? Because no one Iโve ever run across in the manosphere has managed to pull off a particularly convincing impersonation of a really smart anything.ย And in order to effectively parody something, you have to actually understand it first. Given some of the truly odd things MRAs and manospherians believe about feminism and feminists โ see my post on Operation Alimony yesterday for one recent example — Iโm somehow thinking that the only people dumb enough to be fooled by these โfalse-flag-feministโ blogs will be other, yep, MRAs and manosphereians.
Nonetheless, WITBD claimed thatโs heโs already started putting his little plan into action:
I have already begun false flag blogging myself. At this stage, giving the link would ruin the whole thing. But itโs out there. And โfalse flag bloggingโ returned only 87 results, of which only a few actually seemed to discuss what Iโm talking about, so for the time being it seems nobody is watching out for it. Not that theyโd be able to tell anyway.
His fantasies got more and more extravagant:
Think long term. The endgame is to build a big enough presence that coming out as a fake feminist generates buzz in and of itself. Imagine if it came out that the founder of Feministing was actually a menโs rights activist.
And that he could fly, and shoot lasers from his eyes! Imagination is fun!
(Note: The founder of Feministing is not actually an MRA, or a man. Nor can she fly or shoot lasers from her eyes.)
WITBD continued fantasizing:
Eventually, our false flag bloggers will coordinate with our legitimate bloggers and have โdebatesโ where both sides are controlled by us.
And where the only people paying attention are you guys.
If you feel you are getting really good at this, attack some prominent feminists for not being feminist enough. I donโt even know what that would mean, but, hey, this is feminism. Nonsense is our bread and butter.
Wheels within wheels!
Some on In Mala Fide thought this was a dandy idea. Frost wrote:
Fuck yeah. Awesome post. โฆ
[W]e need to get bold and creative with how we fight the war for the best minds in the western world. False flag blogging is a wide-open front. Especially if youโre new to writing and arenโt yet confident in your voice โ and unless you have written many thousands of words already, the truth is your writing is probably going to suck โ a false-flag blog would be a great way to hone your skills while only having to actually write at the level of typical mid-twenties gender studies grad student.
Hereโs a post of mine that sadly didnโt get a lot of attention, but itโs one of my own personal favourites:
http://www.freedomtwentyfive.com/2011/08/an-open-letter-to-the-manginas-of-the-internet/
I submitted it to The Good Men project, Manboobz, and a few other Mangina sites as a guest post, but sadly no one bit. These people are just so easy to parody, itโs ridiculous.
Regular Man Boobz readers may have a rather different assessment of how effective his parody was.
Others on In Mala Fide were a bit more skeptical of the โfalse-flagโ idea.ย As out-and-proud racist thwak put it:
It sounds like a good idea, but it wonโt work. Its been tried by white people on counter racism forums and they always got busted. We used to call it the โnigger impersonation syndromeโ.
A white person would sign up with a name like โJamalโ and speak ebonicsโฆ but they always got busted cause at some point they hafta come out of โnigger cloakโ to practice racism; i.e, say and/or do something a black person would not say/do.
Sure, they have the option of coming on the discussion board and pretending to be a full time nigger, but how does that advance the racist agenda? โฆ
The โblack White Supremacistโ stuck out like a nun in a whore house everytime.
And got busted everytime.
Gosh, itโs almost as if black people are actual human beings and not just racist caricatures. And that real black people can somehow magically spot the difference between other real black people and racist assholes posting in “ebonics.”
Huh. Could the same happen with feminists?
In a followup post, WITBD dismissed the critics as uncreative cowards. And it turns out that fake blogs are only the starting point in his grand plan.
The fact is we are not the alt-right. We are the new left. We are the oppressed proles โฆ They are the establishment. We lost โourโ country. They control it all now. We have blogs. And a handful of churches and seasteading. Sucks.
Now itโs time to move on. We have to take these pieces of shit down and that means we must use leftist tactics. This kind of blogging operation is the beginning of a long march to infiltrate and undermine their institutions.
Sounds like someone has been reading Maoโs Little Red Book!
Playing around? Real men fight to win, period. We fight feminismย specifically becauseย itโs the weak point of liberalism. Read your Sun Tzu. Attacking the entire rainbow coalition at once is madness. You always attack the enemy where he is weakest.
And the weakest links are the ladies, naturally.
[N]ot all women actually benefit from feminism. They may think they win at first, but we know full well that feminist sex and the city-type women lose big time: no kids, no committed alpha, no nothing. Most women donโt benefit, and many women are recognizing this.
Right now among women, feminism is high status and actually being feminine is low status. But all women instinctively want to actually be feminine, and they have better life results when they do. We all know about how to manipulate womenโs idea of status. This should be easy to work out.
If we take out or marginally disrupt feminism, and pull lots of white women out of the coalition, it crumbles in short order.
Oh no! Not the white women! Donโt take the white women!
High-IQ thundercunts are major war engines of the regime, and especially the childless ones. They actually run the agencies, corporations, HR departments, universities, etc. Without them, the enemy has a harder time operating. As well, white women are blatantly used as bait to recruit minority men into liberal groups.
Anti-feminism is something that we know well โฆ and it is something that the other elements of the liberal coalition actually somewhat agree with us on because its not like the blacks, Mexicans, Arabs etc. are keen on empowering their women. All men of all races have common ground in dealing with the unique female brand of bullshit and thus are potential sympathizers on this issue.
So this is his grand plan: for racist white dudes like him (and much of In Mala Fideโs readership) to build a sort of antifeminist rainbow coalition with โblacks, Mexicans, Arabs, etcโ โฆ in order to take down feminism โฆ in order to weaken liberalism … in order to screw over the โblacks, Mexicans, Arabs, etc.โ
Yeah, thatโs totally gonna work.
The “not consecutively!” thing is hilarious XD Though, TBF to NWO, assuming he’s being legit, he was prolly estimating… (and chose a nice high round number)…
but I wonder what “non consecutively” means xD You’d think if it was within a period of time he’d say “From 1995-2000 there were 200 days I didn’t eat at all” or something like that… Instead he just says “you don’t know what it’s like to go 200 days without eating”… that statement implies some sort of consecutiveness… >_>
There’s about 23 hours a day I don’t eat… that would add up to a lot of time not eating…
If feminists were the female-supremacist haters these guys were so desperate to make them out to be, they should be able to find real quotes just by searching feminist sites.
I’ve seen plenty of fake feminists antis in comment sections. They always say something really transparent like “women are so much better than men!”
It’s a special “merit gland” only they possess. That’s why they’re so sure that things would be on merit if it weren’t for that dang affirmative actionquotamacallits!
(Quick, I think we can all agree that “merit”: is great, right? So now – Define “merit!” as it should apply in a quantifiable way to hiring, firing, or education opportunity! – It all starts to get pretty… fuzzy if you put it that way… )
Finland scores all the time, it has serious Game.
oh my god bunny cats eat carrotnip
*dead of cute*
I don’t know how things are run in Egypt, I only object to the idea that women’s labor is unpaid. It was something I read a lot about in feminist books and always found the idea strange and untrue. kladle, what you say is true. Husband and wife support each other in a traditional marriage. He makes the money and fixes things, and she takes care of kids and food and all. The difference is that he works and can support himself without a wife. If she doesn’t work, she can’t support herself without a husband. All I’m saying is that the husband generates the “outside resources” that will help both, and wife generates more of the “inside” ones, if I can say it like that. It’s not a bad arrangement, if women aren’t banned from universities or other opportunities and can make this choice freely.
I guess my view on this is that in case of divorce, alimony should be paid if the divorce was caused by some fault in the man. In a fair world where both sexes have equal rights and are given the same opportunities, the woman shouldn’t have alimony if she chooses to leave (without husband being at fault, like abuse), since she enters the marriage freely and exits it freely. But since we don’t want them to starve to death after that, we should have welfare for these and other people who want to get back on their feet.
Kate,
I object to women being used as slaves, I just don’t think they are necessarily slaves under the patriarchy. They don’t go to war, for example. They tend to be more protected. I can think of many ways in which women’s situation would be different if they really were slaves. And I’m not saying their situation is optimal (I wouldn’t go for it), but it’s not pure slavery. Or maybe it is, in the same sense that men’s situation is slavery because they have to go to military and sometimes get killed in wars.
Oh, and I realize that buying meals at restaurants, getting a nanny and homemade clothes would seemingly cost more, but I’m not entirely sure. You aren’t supporting a restaurant cook or a nanny, but a wife you do (in a traditional marriage that is…). But even if it costs less to have a wife do all these things, I think it goes both ways. Sorry for being stereotypical with gender roles here, but just to make an example, I will have to be: having your husband fix your shelves or sink is cheaper than hiring a worker for it. And renting your own apartment, moving your own bookcase, stuff like that.
Of course he chose a nice high round number: the only numbers that count are 1, 99, and 100!
“Yep. Actually, if I remember right, he claimed that the interviewer actually said that to his face, but I could be wrong.”
Oh hey there, things that corporate HR departments will fire you for.
Zhinxy: I dunno, but I’d steal Mystery’s hat and wear it all around the nightclub, if I happened to be in a nightclub with Mystery for some reason.
Holly – oh my god bunny cats eat carrotnip
*dead of cute*
….
I spend my whole day telilng kitties and doggies and guinea pigs how adoramuhbul they are. I gots murderous cute skillz XD
Zhinxy: I dunno, but Iโd steal Mysteryโs hat and wear it all around the nightclub, if I happened to be in a nightclub with Mystery for some reason.
…
Reminds me!
I think I know somebody who was actually gamed by Mystery, but I’m fuzzy on the story…
…I’d steal the hat too…
@Lauralot
“WE ARE THE 100!!!!!” *looks around* “Who are we fighting again?”
I’m amused by the OP btw and the idea that making fake blogs is this ground breaking thing, just cuz “false flag blogging” isn’t a term yet xD (I love how dramatic MRAs are all the time xD )
http://abandonmen.wordpress.com/
Unfortunately, somebody’s alrdy beaten them to the punch xD
and since this is NWOland
*woman’s voice from background* “GET HIM!!!!!!”
CassandraSays | January 3, 2012 at 5:24 pm
โYep. Actually, if I remember right, he claimed that the interviewer actually said that to his face, but I could be wrong.โ
Oh hey there, things that corporate HR departments will fire you for.
But HR departments are all filled with WIMMINZ, and that is why we control hiring and firing!
“Finland scores all the time, it has serious Game.”
Hey, Finland has Teemu Selanne, who I would be very happy to ride like a racehorse. OK so he’s not skinny, but look at the face! And the eyes!
Cue MRAL rant about elitist bitches. If he knows who Teemu Selanne is (actually Ami and I may be the only ones here who do).
I have his rookie card >_>
I love Teemu! ๐
Is that the finnish flash? I know there’s a finnish flash, so I’m just assuming it’s this finnish guy. I’m that lazy.
I like Teemu b/c he’s an amazing player. Unfortunately for the MRAs, even though they’ve scored 39 goals in the NHL, they’ve never scored 40… so they’re just betas… XD HYPERGAMY!
Yus, he’s the Finnish Flash :3 He’s also a Duck (no longer Mighty ๐ )
We should figure out which sports names are alpha and which ones are betas and omegas…
like Ducks are pretty alpha to me…
Selanne’s the one who got me hooked on hockey in the first place. Finland also has the Koivus!! “Sako” is one of the gutsiest dude’s to play the game, even IF he was a Canadien!
that random apostrophe doesn’t exist! *jedi mind tricks it away*
I still think Rabbitohs are the most alpha of alpha sports team name though…
esp since nobody seems to be sure exactly WHERE it came from xD
Sharks are definitely beta…maybe they’re really small sharks.
Did any of you ever see Selanne play live? He really can move very very fast.