Over on the always repugnant In Mala Fide, a guest blogger by the name of What is To Be Done recently offered his comrades in the “anti-establishment / man/ biorealist / HBD/ reactionary / racist / patriarch / tradcon / whatever blogosphere” what he evidently sees as a revolutionary suggestion: instead of trying to fight the evil feminists with “well-reasoned arguments,” why not simply set up fake feminist blogs, and post shit on them to make feminists looks bad?
WITBD explained:
On the Internet, nobody knows you’re a saboteur. We are naturally smarter than the feminists (in fact, objectively better in every conceivable way), and in addition, we are well-trained in deception by our studies of game. In other words, it’ll be a piece of cake for us to mimic their arguments and appear to them as really smart girls who really know their shit.
Really? Because no one I’ve ever run across in the manosphere has managed to pull off a particularly convincing impersonation of a really smart anything. And in order to effectively parody something, you have to actually understand it first. Given some of the truly odd things MRAs and manospherians believe about feminism and feminists – see my post on Operation Alimony yesterday for one recent example — I’m somehow thinking that the only people dumb enough to be fooled by these “false-flag-feminist” blogs will be other, yep, MRAs and manosphereians.
Nonetheless, WITBD claimed that’s he’s already started putting his little plan into action:
I have already begun false flag blogging myself. At this stage, giving the link would ruin the whole thing. But it’s out there. And “false flag blogging” returned only 87 results, of which only a few actually seemed to discuss what I’m talking about, so for the time being it seems nobody is watching out for it. Not that they’d be able to tell anyway.
His fantasies got more and more extravagant:
Think long term. The endgame is to build a big enough presence that coming out as a fake feminist generates buzz in and of itself. Imagine if it came out that the founder of Feministing was actually a men’s rights activist.
And that he could fly, and shoot lasers from his eyes! Imagination is fun!
(Note: The founder of Feministing is not actually an MRA, or a man. Nor can she fly or shoot lasers from her eyes.)
WITBD continued fantasizing:
Eventually, our false flag bloggers will coordinate with our legitimate bloggers and have “debates” where both sides are controlled by us.
And where the only people paying attention are you guys.
If you feel you are getting really good at this, attack some prominent feminists for not being feminist enough. I don’t even know what that would mean, but, hey, this is feminism. Nonsense is our bread and butter.
Wheels within wheels!
Some on In Mala Fide thought this was a dandy idea. Frost wrote:
Fuck yeah. Awesome post. …
[W]e need to get bold and creative with how we fight the war for the best minds in the western world. False flag blogging is a wide-open front. Especially if you’re new to writing and aren’t yet confident in your voice – and unless you have written many thousands of words already, the truth is your writing is probably going to suck – a false-flag blog would be a great way to hone your skills while only having to actually write at the level of typical mid-twenties gender studies grad student.
Here’s a post of mine that sadly didn’t get a lot of attention, but it’s one of my own personal favourites:
http://www.freedomtwentyfive.com/2011/08/an-open-letter-to-the-manginas-of-the-internet/
I submitted it to The Good Men project, Manboobz, and a few other Mangina sites as a guest post, but sadly no one bit. These people are just so easy to parody, it’s ridiculous.
Regular Man Boobz readers may have a rather different assessment of how effective his parody was.
Others on In Mala Fide were a bit more skeptical of the “false-flag” idea. As out-and-proud racist thwak put it:
It sounds like a good idea, but it won’t work. Its been tried by white people on counter racism forums and they always got busted. We used to call it the “nigger impersonation syndrome”.
A white person would sign up with a name like “Jamal” and speak ebonics… but they always got busted cause at some point they hafta come out of “nigger cloak” to practice racism; i.e, say and/or do something a black person would not say/do.
Sure, they have the option of coming on the discussion board and pretending to be a full time nigger, but how does that advance the racist agenda? …
The “black White Supremacist” stuck out like a nun in a whore house everytime.
And got busted everytime.
Gosh, it’s almost as if black people are actual human beings and not just racist caricatures. And that real black people can somehow magically spot the difference between other real black people and racist assholes posting in “ebonics.”
Huh. Could the same happen with feminists?
In a followup post, WITBD dismissed the critics as uncreative cowards. And it turns out that fake blogs are only the starting point in his grand plan.
The fact is we are not the alt-right. We are the new left. We are the oppressed proles … They are the establishment. We lost “our” country. They control it all now. We have blogs. And a handful of churches and seasteading. Sucks.
Now it’s time to move on. We have to take these pieces of shit down and that means we must use leftist tactics. This kind of blogging operation is the beginning of a long march to infiltrate and undermine their institutions.
Sounds like someone has been reading Mao’s Little Red Book!
Playing around? Real men fight to win, period. We fight feminism specifically because it’s the weak point of liberalism. Read your Sun Tzu. Attacking the entire rainbow coalition at once is madness. You always attack the enemy where he is weakest.
And the weakest links are the ladies, naturally.
[N]ot all women actually benefit from feminism. They may think they win at first, but we know full well that feminist sex and the city-type women lose big time: no kids, no committed alpha, no nothing. Most women don’t benefit, and many women are recognizing this.
Right now among women, feminism is high status and actually being feminine is low status. But all women instinctively want to actually be feminine, and they have better life results when they do. We all know about how to manipulate women’s idea of status. This should be easy to work out.
If we take out or marginally disrupt feminism, and pull lots of white women out of the coalition, it crumbles in short order.
Oh no! Not the white women! Don’t take the white women!
High-IQ thundercunts are major war engines of the regime, and especially the childless ones. They actually run the agencies, corporations, HR departments, universities, etc. Without them, the enemy has a harder time operating. As well, white women are blatantly used as bait to recruit minority men into liberal groups.
Anti-feminism is something that we know well … and it is something that the other elements of the liberal coalition actually somewhat agree with us on because its not like the blacks, Mexicans, Arabs etc. are keen on empowering their women. All men of all races have common ground in dealing with the unique female brand of bullshit and thus are potential sympathizers on this issue.
So this is his grand plan: for racist white dudes like him (and much of In Mala Fide’s readership) to build a sort of antifeminist rainbow coalition with “blacks, Mexicans, Arabs, etc” … in order to take down feminism … in order to weaken liberalism … in order to screw over the “blacks, Mexicans, Arabs, etc.”
Yeah, that’s totally gonna work.
Works both ways, bucko. If “food, clothes, and other things you need/want” is equivalent to pay, then the labor the woman is doing for the man (household chores, laundry, cooking, etc.) also is equivalent to some variety of pay. (That’s why the husband exchanges his money/goods for them, right???) The husband is being supported in part by his wife, and the things he is able to do and own are limited by the labor his wife can put in to maintain that lifestyle. He’s not going it alone and supported only by himself.
Cassandra, can our first album be called “We Have High IQs?”
Ozy, you are scary good at the PUA stuff. Roissy better watch out.
am I the only one with the reflexive need to change “husband” to “slave owner” in that sentence to see if Emma the Emo might get it?
Or is it just that she doesn’t understand that “compensated” != “paid”? The husband is fed, clothed, and provided for through his income and his wife’s labour and still can save for retirement, a better house, a newer wife. But the wife, well she has the clothes on her back and the fat on her ribs and shouldn’t complain?
I just don’t get where you’re coming from Emma. I honestly don’t.
Of course, if he chooses to remain single, he could actually support himself entirely independently. Women in that society are not given that option.
I think in general, taking a long view of history and behaviour, people have always invested in their families and communities, with an eye to the future, with huge profits and “business” in the Capitalist sense not as much an issue without a system of priveleges involved. If we’re going to assume State capitalism is the way things are going to be, then yes, we need measures to mollify it, but I just see no reason, taking a long view of history, to make that assumption. 🙂
“What’s lacking with these mra dudes that they Can’t find success with women like so many other men can? Hell, everywhere you look you see couples happy in their relationships. What’s wrong with the mra dudes that they are incapable of finding success.”
MRA answer: All those happy manginas have been brainwashed by feminism into accepting their slavery happily, but deep down, they’re miserable.
Honest answer: Women are probably turned off by their prehistoric attitudes about sexuality, their acceptance of brutal violence as a solution to problems, and the way they seem to enjoy demeaning rape victims.
@ hellkell – Yes, and the first single can be called “Who dares touch my robes?”.
@ hellkell – Yes, and the first single can be called “Who dares touch my robes?”.
Yes. Now B-Side. What shall be the B-Side…
Honestly, I’m finding the discussion of “why MRAs can’t get laid” somewhat problematic. Obviously, a lot of the reason they can’t get laid is their obnoxious personalities– but there are a lot of people who can’t get laid who are perfectly awesome people (and a lot of obnoxious people who get laid all the time), and I think we’re skirting the Just World fallacy.
B side – “Elitist Bitches Are Awesome”.
The B-side is (I’m Sneering At You) Boy.
Hymn to Hypergamy?
Oh, that’s nothing. He’s also claimed that he sometimes went months without any food.
So then NWO is a cockroach? That explains so much.
Except for the time he stole peanut butter but escaped the cops by running across train tracks.
Isn’t the time a person can go without any food at all without dying less than a fortnight?
(I know it’s less than a week in terms of water.)
Not hundreds of days consecutively! He meant total!
Which is a totally meaningful and honest statement and the sort of thing someone would definitely keep track of.
It’s like how I’ve gone 300 days without sleeping… just not consecutively.
@ Lauralot – You know, that reminded me what his internet persona always makes me think of. I get the feeling that he’s aiming for sort of a super.misogynist Bruce Springsteen. Working class hero, the lady-hating edition.
Question: Even assuming all of this is true, who the fuck wants to be with an “alpha”? I mean, he’s describing at length all the sacrifices I have to make to land an “alpha”, but what’s the payoff? Sounds like a life of utter misery to me. If I were a woman at a crossroads, I would rather be a lawyercunt and take the slutty “Sex and the City” lifestyle, thankyouverymuch. At least there is some fun involved in that. Surely preferable to being a lackey to an asshole and raising a mini-asshole to boot.
It seems the amount of time the body can go without food is dependent on a bunch of variables such as body weight, health, etc.:
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=how-long-can-a-person-sur
I’ve probably gone 12 days eating pie…
@Cassandra: Oh god, poor Bruce Springsteen.
Cassandrasays -I think it’s from 3-5 days without water, but people have survived months without food if they were hydrated?
It varies, but generally about 30 days, give or take. Even if you have plenty of “reserves”, the toxins produced when the organism breaks down body fat and muscle tissue on a massive scale can easily kill you.
“Honestly, I’m finding the discussion of “why MRAs can’t get laid” somewhat problematic. Obviously, a lot of the reason they can’t get laid is their obnoxious personalities– but there are a lot of people who can’t get laid who are perfectly awesome people (and a lot of obnoxious people who get laid all the time), and I think we’re skirting the Just World fallacy.”
I’m a 20-something who’s only been laid once. My problem is that I’m awkward as fuck and terrible at conversation. But I realize that the problem is me. If I went around blaming feminism for my troubles, you’d be justified in mocking me.