Over on the always repugnant In Mala Fide, a guest blogger by the name of What is To Be Done recently offered his comrades in the “anti-establishment / man/ biorealist / HBD/ reactionary / racist / patriarch / tradcon / whatever blogosphere” what he evidently sees as a revolutionary suggestion: instead of trying to fight the evil feminists with “well-reasoned arguments,” why not simply set up fake feminist blogs, and post shit on them to make feminists looks bad?
WITBD explained:
On the Internet, nobody knows you’re a saboteur. We are naturally smarter than the feminists (in fact, objectively better in every conceivable way), and in addition, we are well-trained in deception by our studies of game. In other words, it’ll be a piece of cake for us to mimic their arguments and appear to them as really smart girls who really know their shit.
Really? Because no one I’ve ever run across in the manosphere has managed to pull off a particularly convincing impersonation of a really smart anything. And in order to effectively parody something, you have to actually understand it first. Given some of the truly odd things MRAs and manospherians believe about feminism and feminists – see my post on Operation Alimony yesterday for one recent example — I’m somehow thinking that the only people dumb enough to be fooled by these “false-flag-feminist” blogs will be other, yep, MRAs and manosphereians.
Nonetheless, WITBD claimed that’s he’s already started putting his little plan into action:
I have already begun false flag blogging myself. At this stage, giving the link would ruin the whole thing. But it’s out there. And “false flag blogging” returned only 87 results, of which only a few actually seemed to discuss what I’m talking about, so for the time being it seems nobody is watching out for it. Not that they’d be able to tell anyway.
His fantasies got more and more extravagant:
Think long term. The endgame is to build a big enough presence that coming out as a fake feminist generates buzz in and of itself. Imagine if it came out that the founder of Feministing was actually a men’s rights activist.
And that he could fly, and shoot lasers from his eyes! Imagination is fun!
(Note: The founder of Feministing is not actually an MRA, or a man. Nor can she fly or shoot lasers from her eyes.)
WITBD continued fantasizing:
Eventually, our false flag bloggers will coordinate with our legitimate bloggers and have “debates” where both sides are controlled by us.
And where the only people paying attention are you guys.
If you feel you are getting really good at this, attack some prominent feminists for not being feminist enough. I don’t even know what that would mean, but, hey, this is feminism. Nonsense is our bread and butter.
Wheels within wheels!
Some on In Mala Fide thought this was a dandy idea. Frost wrote:
Fuck yeah. Awesome post. …
[W]e need to get bold and creative with how we fight the war for the best minds in the western world. False flag blogging is a wide-open front. Especially if you’re new to writing and aren’t yet confident in your voice – and unless you have written many thousands of words already, the truth is your writing is probably going to suck – a false-flag blog would be a great way to hone your skills while only having to actually write at the level of typical mid-twenties gender studies grad student.
Here’s a post of mine that sadly didn’t get a lot of attention, but it’s one of my own personal favourites:
http://www.freedomtwentyfive.com/2011/08/an-open-letter-to-the-manginas-of-the-internet/
I submitted it to The Good Men project, Manboobz, and a few other Mangina sites as a guest post, but sadly no one bit. These people are just so easy to parody, it’s ridiculous.
Regular Man Boobz readers may have a rather different assessment of how effective his parody was.
Others on In Mala Fide were a bit more skeptical of the “false-flag” idea. As out-and-proud racist thwak put it:
It sounds like a good idea, but it won’t work. Its been tried by white people on counter racism forums and they always got busted. We used to call it the “nigger impersonation syndrome”.
A white person would sign up with a name like “Jamal” and speak ebonics… but they always got busted cause at some point they hafta come out of “nigger cloak” to practice racism; i.e, say and/or do something a black person would not say/do.
Sure, they have the option of coming on the discussion board and pretending to be a full time nigger, but how does that advance the racist agenda? …
The “black White Supremacist” stuck out like a nun in a whore house everytime.
And got busted everytime.
Gosh, it’s almost as if black people are actual human beings and not just racist caricatures. And that real black people can somehow magically spot the difference between other real black people and racist assholes posting in “ebonics.”
Huh. Could the same happen with feminists?
In a followup post, WITBD dismissed the critics as uncreative cowards. And it turns out that fake blogs are only the starting point in his grand plan.
The fact is we are not the alt-right. We are the new left. We are the oppressed proles … They are the establishment. We lost “our” country. They control it all now. We have blogs. And a handful of churches and seasteading. Sucks.
Now it’s time to move on. We have to take these pieces of shit down and that means we must use leftist tactics. This kind of blogging operation is the beginning of a long march to infiltrate and undermine their institutions.
Sounds like someone has been reading Mao’s Little Red Book!
Playing around? Real men fight to win, period. We fight feminism specifically because it’s the weak point of liberalism. Read your Sun Tzu. Attacking the entire rainbow coalition at once is madness. You always attack the enemy where he is weakest.
And the weakest links are the ladies, naturally.
[N]ot all women actually benefit from feminism. They may think they win at first, but we know full well that feminist sex and the city-type women lose big time: no kids, no committed alpha, no nothing. Most women don’t benefit, and many women are recognizing this.
Right now among women, feminism is high status and actually being feminine is low status. But all women instinctively want to actually be feminine, and they have better life results when they do. We all know about how to manipulate women’s idea of status. This should be easy to work out.
If we take out or marginally disrupt feminism, and pull lots of white women out of the coalition, it crumbles in short order.
Oh no! Not the white women! Don’t take the white women!
High-IQ thundercunts are major war engines of the regime, and especially the childless ones. They actually run the agencies, corporations, HR departments, universities, etc. Without them, the enemy has a harder time operating. As well, white women are blatantly used as bait to recruit minority men into liberal groups.
Anti-feminism is something that we know well … and it is something that the other elements of the liberal coalition actually somewhat agree with us on because its not like the blacks, Mexicans, Arabs etc. are keen on empowering their women. All men of all races have common ground in dealing with the unique female brand of bullshit and thus are potential sympathizers on this issue.
So this is his grand plan: for racist white dudes like him (and much of In Mala Fide’s readership) to build a sort of antifeminist rainbow coalition with “blacks, Mexicans, Arabs, etc” … in order to take down feminism … in order to weaken liberalism … in order to screw over the “blacks, Mexicans, Arabs, etc.”
Yeah, that’s totally gonna work.
@zhinxy
What question is it now? And where’s my answers? C’mon? I really wanna know the number of genders out there so I can be edgy!
So…according to NWO’s logic, the Bible was written after 1492?
Speaking of the Bible, someone should explain the interpretation of God the Mother to NWO and then watch his brain explode.
I feel like I almost shouldn’t keep egging you on to answer our questions, NWO, because you’ve clearly got some sort of mental illness and/or disability, but yeah, I’m going to keep asking.
NWO, my darling little manchild: The ability test for men and women aren’t the same for any of the armed forces. This is a fact. Women get the easier, safe jobs which also are the jobs for faster advancement.
This is a lie, several, actually.
1: The requirements for each job are the same for men and women. The only thing which is normed is the Physical Fitness Standards, which take into account the differences in phsyiognomy. Some jobs such as Parachute Rigger, have some absolute requirements physical requirements, which are not normed; because in the job there are specific duties which require being able to perform those tasks.
2: “Easier, safer, jobs” do not have faster promotion. Promotion is a complicated thing, and the competition is army wide. It has time in service, time in grade and skill within the specialty, as well as educational achievements, PT scores, and the quarterly reviews of performance (both general military, and job specific). Moreover anyone who can’t pass a PT test, or meet the Height/Weight requirements is denied promotion, no matter how highly they score all the rest.
As usual, sweetie, you don’t know what the fuck you are talking about.
NWO, depends entirely on the culture, because gender is a cultural construct. While every culture we know of has men and women, some have another gender, like, again, the hijra, the ha’afafine, two-spirits, the guevedoce, and on and on. Moreover, “man” and “woman” don’t mean the same thing to every culture. In some cultures, men do the knitting or are considered irrational. Men sometimes suckle babies (they basically act as pacifiers, but at least some men can lactate), or act as secretaries, or are the ones who get all tarted up to attract a mate. Sometimes, women hunt or play with toy trucks or do really well at math. Not everyone is exactly like you, dude, and not every culture is exactly like ours. Buy yourself a basic anthropology text, for god’s sake.
@Lauralot
Would that the feminist writing of beyond God the father? Cause father = man and man = bad.
shaenon: Quick reality check: non-combat positions in the military generally pay less than combat positions.
Nope, all get the same base pay. Being in a combat zone is a bump (150 dollars a month), but everyone in the theater gets it, combat slot or not. Some jobs (jumping out of airplanes, being a linguist) have specialty pay, which requires performance to earn (jump pay requires being jump qualified, and making one jump every three months. Linguist pay requires taking a test every year, etc.).
Being in a Combat MOS, for officers, is a fast track to higher rank; which is a big deal. To make flag rank, much less earn a colonelcy is much harder if one has never been in a combat arms branch.
Ami Angelwings | January 4, 2012 at 8:10 pm
Sooooo….
tell us again about Zhinxy and how she totally needs and loves this culture that you can’t explain? (and somehow hasn’t managed to kill you xD AND you have the internet, and unlimited free time apparently for a guy that slaves 2X hours a day xD )
Pecunium, do military people get hazard pay like the fire guys do? How does that work?
@random6x7
I want a definitive number. 5, 10, 20. What is it? Will there be more as the years go by? Is it static? Will a need to have a daily feminist update of future possible genders?
Ami Angelwings | January 4, 2012 at 6:58 pm
@zhinxy
You don’t seem to understand. There’s nothing worth saving. We live in a “culture” you support. Your utopian culture can’t exist without the Corporate/State/MSM/Military complex. Why would I as a straight white man want to save any of it. Let it collapse, good ridance.
YAY! NWO IS HERE AND HE’S ENGAGING US FINALLY! 😀
ENTER AMI ANGELWINGS! >:D
Okay, so what’s the culture we live in that she supports? And don’t just say “FEMINIST CONSPIRACY CULTURE” or w/e cuz your “IT’S BAD” things don’t describe nething xD What’s this culture she supports therefore she can’t destroy? And how is it backed up by that? o:
She’s already described pretty clearly things she wants to change, she’s by far the most radical here, even from you and Meller in that she really doesn’t want a state, and you still want lots of laws and rules to make ppl behave the way you want, and etc… she’s even described how it might work and showed writings to that effect…
so… do you think she’s LYING? o_O She clearly understands the way the world works… so why are you insisting unless you think she’s lying?
or is this a ‘she knows not what she thinks” thing, in which case, please tell us, what’s this “culture” we live in and that she supports? What specifically does she support which insists on this culture and therefore the etcetcetcomplex?
I guess we’re supposed to pity NWO for not being able to go to Goodwill and get non-holey t-shirts. Like walking around in them is the manly thing to do or something.
You first NWO 😀
All you do is ask questions and never answer any xD
Wanna be hip and edgy? Then you answer my questions first, and I’ll let you know the secret of teh many genders 😀
nwoslave | January 4, 2012 at 8:41 pm
@random6x7
I want a definitive number. 5, 10, 20. What is it? Will there be more as the years go by? Is it static? Will a need to have a daily feminist update of future possible genders?
Feminist update huh? xD
So whatever I tell you is TEH FEMINIST number? 😀
AMI IS FEMINISM! 😀
NWO, if you really want to know, I’ll tell you 😀
But as I said, you never answer questions xD So if you want this one answered b/c you’re apparently wanting to be hip and edgy, I will 😀
But you answer me first 😀 All of those, b/c the interest has racked up since you’ve been avoiding me for… what is it… months now? xD (not CONSECUTIVELY)
*jeopardy music plays*
Well, modern gender theory has it that gender is a spectrum without discrete boundaries, so there are as many genders as there are colors in the rainbow. Many cultures will name two or three genders, as I have been fucking typing over and over again. Some cultures, and I know you won’t believe this, think of gender as something that you achieve, so there’s the society where boys give blowjobs to older men because they need to ingest the semen in order to become men. There are also cultures where gender is a process, so older men are considered more feminine and older women more masculine, because they’ve “used up” their manly or womanly essence having babies and ejaculating and so on.
After all, I’m the one who is helping change policy guides among agencies in my city to get rid of “two genders” and etc… 😀
(no really, I am)
Something tells me NWO is gonna ignore me and latch onto random xD
“BUT GIVE ME A SPECIFIC NUMMMMBAAARRRR” xD
@NWO
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hijra_(South_Asia). I know you think wikipedia is a rothschild conspiracy, but the article is well cited so you can follow the citations. As a South Asian I’m most familiar with hijras (I don’t know any personally, but I know about the culture as they are a very prominent part of South Asian culture as a whole), and will leave other explanations in random6x7’s capable hands
That’s okay, I rodeocat to entertain the crowd (at NWO’s expense) 😀
OLE!
Ami – “After all, I’m the one who is helping change policy guides among agencies in my city to get rid of “two genders” and etc…
(no really, I am)”
Yes, yes you are!!
And yet he can’t answer your questions! Possibly because he fears your vast power?
Well, remember what Jesus said about giving to the poor. “Jesus said unto him, If thou wouldest be perfect, go, sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, follow me. Unless you only have enough clothes to fit in a suitcase, in which case you’re good. Don’t worry about all that generosity/giving to the poor shit.”
Or, what was that other thing? “Then the King will say to those on His right, ‘Come, you who are blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. For I was hungry, and you gave Me something to eat; I was thirsty, and you gave Me drink; I was a stranger, and you invited Me in; naked, and you clothed Me; I was sick, and you visited Me; I was in prison, and you came to Me. Or, you know, you didn’t clothe me, but you only had five pairs of jeans, so what are you gonna do? Give me the clothes off your back? I know you would have given me something if only affirmative action hadn’t kept you from getting that good job at Pepsi, my child’.”
NWO seems to have this list of people he ignores. Ami’s at the top, so she’s always ignored. Some of us are much lower and only get ignored if the more important people aren’t around. I think that’s the only reason he’ll answer me. That, and he thinks that what I’m saying is just so clearly off-base.
@Pecunium
Paul Harvey, the late radio commentator, called it “the rest of the story.”
And here on these pages we’re giving you the inside news on a scandal and investigation that has the PC and pro-diversity crowd back in “the puzzle palace” sick with worry.
It seems the female commandant of the Army’s drill sergeant school at Fort Jackson, S.C. has been suspended. That much has been reported in the controlled press. But what you haven’t been told – until now – is the reasons why such drastic action has been taken and what direction the investigation has been going in
In the case of King, the reasons she was pulled off the job after being hailed on page one of theNew York TIMES when she was the named first female commandant in 2009, are sure to embarrass the Army big-time.
Yes, we know about the allegations she was having a sexual relationship with a lower-ranking soldier, as well as the reports the 50 year-old North Carolina native also had a drinking problems.
But MCC investigators have checked out King’s educational credentials and come to a shocking conclusion. That’s the real smoking gun. The command sergeant major’s master and doctor of divinity degrees were issued by unaccredited diploma mills! They’re not worth the paper they are printed on.
We found out King’s master’s degree in business management from Alameda College was granted her for “life experience” and cold, hard cash.
Her impressive sounding “doctor of divinity” degree came from the American Institute of Holistic Theology. Once again, this outfit is unaccredited and sells diplomas for money.
It’s safe to say probers are looking into whether or not possession of these so-called college degrees gave King an unfair advantage over others in obtaining promotions and eventually the position as top-NCO at the drill sergeant school.
Right now, the Army brass would like this scandal to “go away” and King be quietly put out to pasture after 31 years of service. They certainly don’t want it known that this daughter of sharecroppers and one of 12 children born into poverty years ago, has never deployed to a war zone in over three decades of active duty. While many of her students are highly-decorated veterans, having fought in Iraq and/or Afghanistan, King is ineligible to wear a combat duty patch because she never had to go into harm’s way.
You can ask him my questions then random 😀