Over on the always repugnant In Mala Fide, a guest blogger by the name of What is To Be Done recently offered his comrades in the “anti-establishment / man/ biorealist / HBD/ reactionary / racist / patriarch / tradcon / whatever blogosphere” what he evidently sees as a revolutionary suggestion: instead of trying to fight the evil feminists with “well-reasoned arguments,” why not simply set up fake feminist blogs, and post shit on them to make feminists looks bad?
WITBD explained:
On the Internet, nobody knows you’re a saboteur. We are naturally smarter than the feminists (in fact, objectively better in every conceivable way), and in addition, we are well-trained in deception by our studies of game. In other words, it’ll be a piece of cake for us to mimic their arguments and appear to them as really smart girls who really know their shit.
Really? Because no one I’ve ever run across in the manosphere has managed to pull off a particularly convincing impersonation of a really smart anything. And in order to effectively parody something, you have to actually understand it first. Given some of the truly odd things MRAs and manospherians believe about feminism and feminists – see my post on Operation Alimony yesterday for one recent example — I’m somehow thinking that the only people dumb enough to be fooled by these “false-flag-feminist” blogs will be other, yep, MRAs and manosphereians.
Nonetheless, WITBD claimed that’s he’s already started putting his little plan into action:
I have already begun false flag blogging myself. At this stage, giving the link would ruin the whole thing. But it’s out there. And “false flag blogging” returned only 87 results, of which only a few actually seemed to discuss what I’m talking about, so for the time being it seems nobody is watching out for it. Not that they’d be able to tell anyway.
His fantasies got more and more extravagant:
Think long term. The endgame is to build a big enough presence that coming out as a fake feminist generates buzz in and of itself. Imagine if it came out that the founder of Feministing was actually a men’s rights activist.
And that he could fly, and shoot lasers from his eyes! Imagination is fun!
(Note: The founder of Feministing is not actually an MRA, or a man. Nor can she fly or shoot lasers from her eyes.)
WITBD continued fantasizing:
Eventually, our false flag bloggers will coordinate with our legitimate bloggers and have “debates” where both sides are controlled by us.
And where the only people paying attention are you guys.
If you feel you are getting really good at this, attack some prominent feminists for not being feminist enough. I don’t even know what that would mean, but, hey, this is feminism. Nonsense is our bread and butter.
Wheels within wheels!
Some on In Mala Fide thought this was a dandy idea. Frost wrote:
Fuck yeah. Awesome post. …
[W]e need to get bold and creative with how we fight the war for the best minds in the western world. False flag blogging is a wide-open front. Especially if you’re new to writing and aren’t yet confident in your voice – and unless you have written many thousands of words already, the truth is your writing is probably going to suck – a false-flag blog would be a great way to hone your skills while only having to actually write at the level of typical mid-twenties gender studies grad student.
Here’s a post of mine that sadly didn’t get a lot of attention, but it’s one of my own personal favourites:
http://www.freedomtwentyfive.com/2011/08/an-open-letter-to-the-manginas-of-the-internet/
I submitted it to The Good Men project, Manboobz, and a few other Mangina sites as a guest post, but sadly no one bit. These people are just so easy to parody, it’s ridiculous.
Regular Man Boobz readers may have a rather different assessment of how effective his parody was.
Others on In Mala Fide were a bit more skeptical of the “false-flag” idea. As out-and-proud racist thwak put it:
It sounds like a good idea, but it won’t work. Its been tried by white people on counter racism forums and they always got busted. We used to call it the “nigger impersonation syndrome”.
A white person would sign up with a name like “Jamal” and speak ebonics… but they always got busted cause at some point they hafta come out of “nigger cloak” to practice racism; i.e, say and/or do something a black person would not say/do.
Sure, they have the option of coming on the discussion board and pretending to be a full time nigger, but how does that advance the racist agenda? …
The “black White Supremacist” stuck out like a nun in a whore house everytime.
And got busted everytime.
Gosh, it’s almost as if black people are actual human beings and not just racist caricatures. And that real black people can somehow magically spot the difference between other real black people and racist assholes posting in “ebonics.”
Huh. Could the same happen with feminists?
In a followup post, WITBD dismissed the critics as uncreative cowards. And it turns out that fake blogs are only the starting point in his grand plan.
The fact is we are not the alt-right. We are the new left. We are the oppressed proles … They are the establishment. We lost “our” country. They control it all now. We have blogs. And a handful of churches and seasteading. Sucks.
Now it’s time to move on. We have to take these pieces of shit down and that means we must use leftist tactics. This kind of blogging operation is the beginning of a long march to infiltrate and undermine their institutions.
Sounds like someone has been reading Mao’s Little Red Book!
Playing around? Real men fight to win, period. We fight feminism specifically because it’s the weak point of liberalism. Read your Sun Tzu. Attacking the entire rainbow coalition at once is madness. You always attack the enemy where he is weakest.
And the weakest links are the ladies, naturally.
[N]ot all women actually benefit from feminism. They may think they win at first, but we know full well that feminist sex and the city-type women lose big time: no kids, no committed alpha, no nothing. Most women don’t benefit, and many women are recognizing this.
Right now among women, feminism is high status and actually being feminine is low status. But all women instinctively want to actually be feminine, and they have better life results when they do. We all know about how to manipulate women’s idea of status. This should be easy to work out.
If we take out or marginally disrupt feminism, and pull lots of white women out of the coalition, it crumbles in short order.
Oh no! Not the white women! Don’t take the white women!
High-IQ thundercunts are major war engines of the regime, and especially the childless ones. They actually run the agencies, corporations, HR departments, universities, etc. Without them, the enemy has a harder time operating. As well, white women are blatantly used as bait to recruit minority men into liberal groups.
Anti-feminism is something that we know well … and it is something that the other elements of the liberal coalition actually somewhat agree with us on because its not like the blacks, Mexicans, Arabs etc. are keen on empowering their women. All men of all races have common ground in dealing with the unique female brand of bullshit and thus are potential sympathizers on this issue.
So this is his grand plan: for racist white dudes like him (and much of In Mala Fide’s readership) to build a sort of antifeminist rainbow coalition with “blacks, Mexicans, Arabs, etc” … in order to take down feminism … in order to weaken liberalism … in order to screw over the “blacks, Mexicans, Arabs, etc.”
Yeah, that’s totally gonna work.
Helkell – Ami, in NWO StatelessWorld, Star Wars novels will be our main currency. Stock up now!
HAHAHHAHAHA!
Wait
…It’s not discworld books and dungeons and dragons novels?
oh, fuck. FUCK.
hellkell | January 4, 2012 at 7:42 pm
Ami, in NWO StatelessWorld, Star Wars novels will be our main currency. Stock up now!
What about Star Trek novels? o:
This may break NWO’s mind, but I’ll tell it anyway:
My mother is the children/teen’s librarian at our county library. This library contains pretty much every Star Wars novel known to man because my mother ordered them all…at the request of my sister.
What about Star Trek novels? o:
…
I have some of the better ones, but they aren’t canon! So they’re worthless as currency. They’re basically… fiat books. XD
I think using libraries is against NWO’s code b/c it means… state and stuff xD When the libraries burn, all of you state-loving scum, and your children and your children’s children will NEVER know Chewbacca’s fate was, or what happened to Jacen Solo, unless you BEG HIM, BEG HIM, OFFER HIM ALL YOUR CROPS, to read those precious precious Star Wars novels.
I have no doubt you’d all throw down with Jerry Cantrell. He has wealth and talent, basically power. That’d be a mans sexuality, his actions. A dozen women would rather share old Jerry than be manogomous with a man of less power. The same guy could’ve been a bum and youd’ve walked over him to rescue a kitty eating out of a dumpster.
Personally, I’m not talking about boning the dude. I’m talking about emulating his IDGAF attitude, in case you missed that the first time. I have my own hot blonde dude at home and he has no wealth or fame to speak of, so I’ve no need for Jerry, other than making music that I enjoy.
But now that you mention it, Jerry Cantrell did do well with the ladies when he was a poor, non-famous, non-musician, regular-type dude bumming around Seattle and carrying his amp on the bus. So did Layne Staley, because he was a really, really sweet, nice guy. Genuinely nice, not “I want to get into your pants” nice. What happened to him is horribly sad, and fame and money are partly to blame.
Around here, I’ve also seen broke math students with chest hair forests and social studies-major dudes with greasy hair get laid, and they’re in no way my cup of tea, nor do they have any money or fame to speak of. Must be their personalities after all.
I don’t know of any militantly angry, “hates entire classes of people”-type person who gets laid on the reg though. So there’s that.
Maybe Star Trek books could be like pennies? I don’t know. XD
HAHHA, fun fact – Chewbacca’s fate was written (not decided), by an awesome friend of a friend who wrote some of my favorite Dungeons and Dragons novels. What happened to him at the hands…well, other end of email, phone, and letter and sometimes convention desk of Star Wars Fans who blamed him for all of it and considered him Chewies Murderer was… SCARY.
Also, I was very involved in his fandom at the time, and they came after us, too. XD
…is there any chance we’ve met BEFORE, NWO?
If ya ever wonder why men in general think women are stupid? You’ve all managed to devolve down to star wars novels as currency.
@Ami
“What about Star Trek novels? o:”
They will be thrown into volcanoes tied to their authors bodies!!
*insert Futurama He’s dead Jim clip*
@Lauralot
Clearly another example of female privilege and entitlement!!! When NWO asked for Star Wars novels, they put up a poster of Jar Jar Binks and told him to like it or lump it!
We like to think we’ve become more enlightened over the years, but not a lot has changed on the sexual front. Sex is still a thing women do for men and shouldn’t try to back out of for any reason. I was reading an old-timey pamphlet about douches where sex was referred to as “marital obligations.” And not five or six years ago my mother expressed shock that I wouldn’t have sex with a hypothetical husband (since I have no interest) regardless of my husband’s desires.
What about my desires? What about my body? Oh right. I’m a woman and what I want doesn’t matter. I should put all others above myself so that my personal needs are never ever ever considered.
(Of course, my mom’s sort of weird. She’s also told me I should always have coffee–for guests–in my house even though I hate coffee, and that I was a selfish person if I didn’t want to touch bread to make someone else a sandwich even though I’m celiac. So the whole “have sex you don’t want to benefit someone else” thing fits right in there. And before you say anything, she donates to PP and NOW and considers herself a feminist. But she’s a product of her generation. Like how your grandpa isn’t racist, but …)
“men in general think women are stupid”
[citation needed]
Also, in answer to who’s going to provide for me when your beloved apocalypse comes?
Me. Just like it is now. Duh.
I guess it’s a lot easier and more convenient to put people into categories and use those categories to universally justify your perspective than to account for rational actors in individual situations. Rich and poor. White and black. Hobo and famous. Feminist and MRA. Alpha and beta. People have no agency whatsoever. They’re just responding to the encoded semiotics that their brains have universally, identically been wired to respond to.
nwoslave | January 4, 2012 at 7:52 pm
If ya ever wonder why men in general think women are stupid? You’ve all managed to devolve down to star wars novels as currency.
So… you lack humour xD We alrdy know that…
Any answering of questions yet? 😀
Besides, YOU’RE the one who were complaining you can’t get full value for your used books (prolly the illuminati state feminist conspiracy’s fault) xD I was merely elaborating on what you prolly believe since you keep running screaming whenever I ask you to tell me what you believe xD
btw, half hearted little posts… you can do better NWO xD
Stop trying to hit me and hit me. 😀
You’ve all managed to devolve down to star wars novels as currency.
All? No, I still use dead presidents. Of course, some people think there’s poison in the money, and if we will only send them $50, they will respond in kind with a pamphlet explaining how to navigate the Federal Reserve for the go-go 21st century, but I’m not them.
ANSWER THE QUESTIONS. ANSWER THEM.
Because knowing how people lived in pre-industrial times would have NO BEARING WHATSOEVER on making one’s way in a post-collapse world. None at all.
bekabot: NWO is not right, because he is insisting that linguistic gender cannot be neutral in regards to living things. That the use of a neuter pronoun means the subject, if alive, must be lacking in genitals.
As I said, I dun necessarily think a lot of what NWO says about his life is trustworthy (for one, a lot of it is inconsistent and he keeps backtracking or changing his life story xD ), since he’s here just to troll ppl, BUT the one thing I’m SURE is, is him reading Star Wars books cuz whenever I poke it, he reacts… and angrily xD
Last time I actually got him to engage Zhinxy when he was in full avoidance mode by poking it 😀
anti-moron’s-rights – They’re just responding to the encoded semiotics that their brains have universally, identically been wired to respond to…
But ALWAYS be careful, there’s a lot of misinformation out there waiting to BRAINWASH YOU! 😉
I think walking around in circles, chewing on our tails will DEFINITELY help us navigate the post-collapse world.
NWO: The women who had boys castrated for their amusment.
Citation please.
How, by the way, do you feel about that love your neighbor stuff?
I place blame where it belongs. No one gets a free pass because they’re born “woman” You however exempt all women from any wrong doing.
One lie, one dodge.
I don’t exempt women. I treat them in the same way I treat men. Show me where I have managed to apply the usage of the word “gender” to social situations to advance an ideology.
Have you plucked out your eyes because you are tempted by little girls?
Why not just say those women in power were vile swine?
If the women were castrating the men, they were evil. So go ahead, show us the evidence for the fantastic allegation of yours. What women were cutting men’s balls off as a form of amusement?
@Anti-Moron’s-Rights
Give me more personal analogies. They’re my very favorite. And gospel truth. A woman put pixels on the screen, that’s how ya know it’s true.
Women make 76 cents on a dollar compared to men for the same job and the same amount of labor. 1 in 4 women are raped in college, the place any women is most likely to be raped according to the numbers.
I saw it on a computer screen, written by a woman. Therefore I know it’s true.
On the manboobz screen, everyone here has given me a personal experience of a woman doing better at pratically everything than a man. Why just today, I found out apachee helicopter girl is better than any man.
I use leaves, beavers, meese, bluenoses, old women, hockey games, loons and bears 😀
Because come the revolution, all books with their liberal feminist illuminati know-how will go POOF!
In NWO StatelessWorld, readers will be the first to go.