Over on the always repugnant In Mala Fide, a guest blogger by the name of What is To Be Done recently offered his comrades in the “anti-establishment / man/ biorealist / HBD/ reactionary / racist / patriarch / tradcon / whatever blogosphere” what he evidently sees as a revolutionary suggestion: instead of trying to fight the evil feminists with “well-reasoned arguments,” why not simply set up fake feminist blogs, and post shit on them to make feminists looks bad?
WITBD explained:
On the Internet, nobody knows you’re a saboteur. We are naturally smarter than the feminists (in fact, objectively better in every conceivable way), and in addition, we are well-trained in deception by our studies of game. In other words, it’ll be a piece of cake for us to mimic their arguments and appear to them as really smart girls who really know their shit.
Really? Because no one I’ve ever run across in the manosphere has managed to pull off a particularly convincing impersonation of a really smart anything. And in order to effectively parody something, you have to actually understand it first. Given some of the truly odd things MRAs and manospherians believe about feminism and feminists – see my post on Operation Alimony yesterday for one recent example — I’m somehow thinking that the only people dumb enough to be fooled by these “false-flag-feminist” blogs will be other, yep, MRAs and manosphereians.
Nonetheless, WITBD claimed that’s he’s already started putting his little plan into action:
I have already begun false flag blogging myself. At this stage, giving the link would ruin the whole thing. But it’s out there. And “false flag blogging” returned only 87 results, of which only a few actually seemed to discuss what I’m talking about, so for the time being it seems nobody is watching out for it. Not that they’d be able to tell anyway.
His fantasies got more and more extravagant:
Think long term. The endgame is to build a big enough presence that coming out as a fake feminist generates buzz in and of itself. Imagine if it came out that the founder of Feministing was actually a men’s rights activist.
And that he could fly, and shoot lasers from his eyes! Imagination is fun!
(Note: The founder of Feministing is not actually an MRA, or a man. Nor can she fly or shoot lasers from her eyes.)
WITBD continued fantasizing:
Eventually, our false flag bloggers will coordinate with our legitimate bloggers and have “debates” where both sides are controlled by us.
And where the only people paying attention are you guys.
If you feel you are getting really good at this, attack some prominent feminists for not being feminist enough. I don’t even know what that would mean, but, hey, this is feminism. Nonsense is our bread and butter.
Wheels within wheels!
Some on In Mala Fide thought this was a dandy idea. Frost wrote:
Fuck yeah. Awesome post. …
[W]e need to get bold and creative with how we fight the war for the best minds in the western world. False flag blogging is a wide-open front. Especially if you’re new to writing and aren’t yet confident in your voice – and unless you have written many thousands of words already, the truth is your writing is probably going to suck – a false-flag blog would be a great way to hone your skills while only having to actually write at the level of typical mid-twenties gender studies grad student.
Here’s a post of mine that sadly didn’t get a lot of attention, but it’s one of my own personal favourites:
http://www.freedomtwentyfive.com/2011/08/an-open-letter-to-the-manginas-of-the-internet/
I submitted it to The Good Men project, Manboobz, and a few other Mangina sites as a guest post, but sadly no one bit. These people are just so easy to parody, it’s ridiculous.
Regular Man Boobz readers may have a rather different assessment of how effective his parody was.
Others on In Mala Fide were a bit more skeptical of the “false-flag” idea. As out-and-proud racist thwak put it:
It sounds like a good idea, but it won’t work. Its been tried by white people on counter racism forums and they always got busted. We used to call it the “nigger impersonation syndrome”.
A white person would sign up with a name like “Jamal” and speak ebonics… but they always got busted cause at some point they hafta come out of “nigger cloak” to practice racism; i.e, say and/or do something a black person would not say/do.
Sure, they have the option of coming on the discussion board and pretending to be a full time nigger, but how does that advance the racist agenda? …
The “black White Supremacist” stuck out like a nun in a whore house everytime.
And got busted everytime.
Gosh, it’s almost as if black people are actual human beings and not just racist caricatures. And that real black people can somehow magically spot the difference between other real black people and racist assholes posting in “ebonics.”
Huh. Could the same happen with feminists?
In a followup post, WITBD dismissed the critics as uncreative cowards. And it turns out that fake blogs are only the starting point in his grand plan.
The fact is we are not the alt-right. We are the new left. We are the oppressed proles … They are the establishment. We lost “our” country. They control it all now. We have blogs. And a handful of churches and seasteading. Sucks.
Now it’s time to move on. We have to take these pieces of shit down and that means we must use leftist tactics. This kind of blogging operation is the beginning of a long march to infiltrate and undermine their institutions.
Sounds like someone has been reading Mao’s Little Red Book!
Playing around? Real men fight to win, period. We fight feminism specifically because it’s the weak point of liberalism. Read your Sun Tzu. Attacking the entire rainbow coalition at once is madness. You always attack the enemy where he is weakest.
And the weakest links are the ladies, naturally.
[N]ot all women actually benefit from feminism. They may think they win at first, but we know full well that feminist sex and the city-type women lose big time: no kids, no committed alpha, no nothing. Most women don’t benefit, and many women are recognizing this.
Right now among women, feminism is high status and actually being feminine is low status. But all women instinctively want to actually be feminine, and they have better life results when they do. We all know about how to manipulate women’s idea of status. This should be easy to work out.
If we take out or marginally disrupt feminism, and pull lots of white women out of the coalition, it crumbles in short order.
Oh no! Not the white women! Don’t take the white women!
High-IQ thundercunts are major war engines of the regime, and especially the childless ones. They actually run the agencies, corporations, HR departments, universities, etc. Without them, the enemy has a harder time operating. As well, white women are blatantly used as bait to recruit minority men into liberal groups.
Anti-feminism is something that we know well … and it is something that the other elements of the liberal coalition actually somewhat agree with us on because its not like the blacks, Mexicans, Arabs etc. are keen on empowering their women. All men of all races have common ground in dealing with the unique female brand of bullshit and thus are potential sympathizers on this issue.
So this is his grand plan: for racist white dudes like him (and much of In Mala Fide’s readership) to build a sort of antifeminist rainbow coalition with “blacks, Mexicans, Arabs, etc” … in order to take down feminism … in order to weaken liberalism … in order to screw over the “blacks, Mexicans, Arabs, etc.”
Yeah, that’s totally gonna work.
I always picture the sad lonely corpses of “survivalists” out in the woods by anarchist town. It’s a pretty sad picture, but what are ya gonna do?
Yeah, see, that’s the thing. My friend lives in a co-operative environment where he depends on others and others depend on him. It’s still government of some type, albeit boiled down to its micro-components. But it’s a system of governance, just the same.
Emma, an erection is a biological function. Just like a man can desire sex and not get an erection, a man may be erect and still not want sex. An erection is NOT consent (just like vaginal lubrication is not consent).
This has been your “men can be raped too” PSA of the evening.
An erection is not consent for people who aren’t men too.
That is your catkins PSA for the… second.. 😀
GODDAMMIT I’M TRANS I SHOULD BE OVER CISSEXIST LANGUAGE BY NOW >.>
zhinxy, most of those dipshits are hoping for a societal collapse because they think it’ll take care of all the people they hate. No more hippies, liberals, queers, feminists, non-whites, etc.. They’re counting on their inherent superiority to save them from whatever disaster comes and they figure since we’re all so inferior none of us will be left. So, I see no reason to save them from themselves.
*hugs ozy*
don’t be upset? i was just adding to your A of PSness :3
I don’t usually post if I’m not caught up in the comments, so there’s a really good chance this has already been addressed, but I’ll add my voice. Not to Emma, because I don’t think she’ll agree with me, but to anyone else reading along.
Not wanting to have sex is always a legitimate reason not to have sex.
Always.
Always.
If your partner or partners feel unsatisfied with the amount of partnered sex in the relationship, they can leave; but that doesn’t mean you’ve failed in your “duties” in some way. It just means you’d probably be better off with someone with a lower sex drive.
http://www.themarysue.com/female-explorer-finally-gets-her-due/
I also think it’s not nice and caring to ignore the sexual needs of your partner, unless you have a legitimate reason (illness, physical inability, depression, things like that).
That sounds like skipping school… do you need a doctor’s note too? xD What are reasons that a lot of ppl have that you find illegitimate? o:
I always picture the sad lonely corpses of “survivalists” out in the woods by anarchist town. It’s a pretty sad picture, but what are ya gonna do?
Yeah, see, that’s the thing. My friend lives in a co-operative environment where he depends on others and others depend on him. It’s still government of some type, albeit boiled down to its micro-components. But it’s a system of governance, just the same.
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BINGO! And that’s what we want, really, whichever kind of anarchist we are. Mutual association, decentralization, and order without coercion. “government” in the sense of governance, but not in the sense of a nation state. And as long as that option really DOES exist, without our communities growing too large for some people’s comfort, or making the wrong noises and attracting some very bad attention, as often does happen, then that’s how we proceed – As much as possible, creating a new society in the shell of the old.
And then there’s THOSE dudes… 😉
(Not going into how there’s actually a weird and oddly… wonderful(?) overlap between some of the nuttier hands off my gun food stockpiling types and people who will build happy hippy towns, but regardless, THOSE dudes will be interesting to watch in case the worst does happen. Poor guys.)
MIKE PATTON IS AWESOME!
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NWO! MORE HISTORY TIME! WHAT ABOUT FANTASTIC EXPLORER AND BOTANIST JEANNE BARET WHO DISGUISED HERSELF AS A MAN TO DO THE AWESOME STUFF!
Why did she and other women who disguised themselves that way do it? What about all the benifits of being female? What about how women don’t want to face the dangers men do?
http://www.themarysue.com/female-explorer-finally-gets-her-due/
I have no doubt you’d all throw down with Jerry Cantrell. He has wealth and talent, basically power. That’d be a mans sexuality, his actions. A dozen women would rather share old Jerry than be manogomous with a man of less power. The same guy could’ve been a bum and youd’ve walked over him to rescue a kitty eating out of a dumpster.
I’ll be just fine, MertvayaRuka, when, not if the collapse comes. I’m quite the scrapper. One of the perks, if you could call it that, of spending much of your life in poverty. I doubt if engish lit or womens studies’ll be all that helpful. I’ll be just fine and I’ll live a long, long time.
Kidnapping children from their fathers. Stealing all the wealth and power from individual men and handing it to the men at the top so women could be “empowered” above those individual men. I’ll bet ya never thought all those decades of female “empowerment” would come back and bite ya in the ass?
Whose gonna protect and provide for ya then? I guess you could form little harems for the men still holding all the power. How easily the men at the top controlled the herd. Oh yes! I’ll be quite alright in the years ahead.
if women could do whatever they want but they just choose not to because as women they had the privilege of staying safe at home, why would women disguise themselves to go?
Why would women NOT BE ALLOWED to? And yes, that’s just one example of a woman disguising herself for a male career.
Answer the damn questions, NWO. What do I want, what do I support, what do you offer instead?
@Kollege
No worries, and I fully agree with your post. Was just throwing that out there to add to what you said.
@Lauralot
We will never know what goes on in the NWO. They have brainwashed us all!!!!
@MertvayaRuka
“Or you’ll starve to death because you’re too stupid to understand that once your stockpile of MREs is gone they’re gone and nobody wants to trade edible food for inedible gold”
GOLD!!! (if you’ll pardon the pun) Did anyone else hear an anguished NOOOO from B? I wonder if David’s moderation filter is filled with apoplexic posts about how he will be the last one laughing and how his gold will save humanity (but he would obviously refuse to share).
nwoslave | January 4, 2012 at 7:32 pm
I have no doubt you’d all throw down with Jerry Cantrell. He has wealth and talent, basically power. That’d be a mans sexuality, his actions. A dozen women would rather share old Jerry than be manogomous with a man of less power. The same guy could’ve been a bum and youd’ve walked over him to rescue a kitty eating out of a dumpster.
I’ll be just fine, MertvayaRuka, when, not if the collapse comes. I’m quite the scrapper. One of the perks, if you could call it that, of spending much of your life in poverty. I doubt if engish lit or womens studies’ll be all that helpful. I’ll be just fine and I’ll live a long, long time.
Kidnapping children from their fathers. Stealing all the wealth and power from individual men and handing it to the men at the top so women could be “empowered” above those individual men. I’ll bet ya never thought all those decades of female “empowerment” would come back and bite ya in the ass?
Whose gonna protect and provide for ya then? I guess you could form little harems for the men still holding all the power. How easily the men at the top controlled the herd. Oh yes! I’ll be quite alright in the years ahead.
I like how you completely ignored Zhinxy and me xD
Seriously NWO, you just ranted about how we’ll all die without the state and you’ll live, but… how?
Why? 😀
Specifically… in what ways have the state held you back? And what would your life be like without it? 😀
Also, explain again what “culture” you believe Zhinxy supports? :3
Stealing all the wealth and power from individual men and handing it to the men at the top so women could be “empowered” above those individual men.
For example, um how? xD Can you take us from A to B to C about this?
Am *I* getting wealth and power? Like from you? xD
Or is this usual “I have no idea what I’m talking about I just want to blame the world b/c I KNOW, I KNOW that if I wasn’t being oppressed by the feminist/state/illuminati conspiracy, I’d be RICH!” xD
I’ve noticed that NWO’s posting time dropped again once I showed up XD And he waited until he thought I might be gone and posted to avoid setting me off, or having Zhinxy, Ruka or others IM me XD
Soon I’ll have him trained to figure out who has outside contact w/ me, and it won’t just be me that causes him to stop posting and be afraid but those ppl too xD
NWO, as much as you might wish it were so, it’s not “manogamous,” but “monogamous.” Mono as in single or one.
And yes, if it came down to helping you or helping a kitty in a dumpster, the kitty wins every time.
He has wealth and talent, basically power. –
Not really. You can be pretty rich and just be singing for your supper at the foot of those with less money and more pull. Happens a lot.
Like Chris Rock said, so very aptly, there’s a sense in which you could say that plenty of Black people have plenty of money, but they don’t have WEALTH. – meaning established privelege, property, and entrenched power.
Of course, all you’re talking about is some bizarre idea of male sexuality… But thought I’d throw in a little awareness that class isn’t simply overcome by amount of money, going in either directions. There’s been plenty of broke prep school kids who were just a phone call away from ears it would take plenty of people who weren’t at all badly off in dollar terms all they had and more to reach.
Hey NWO do you have a library near you btw? :3 I’m wondering cuz you complained bitterly before about the cost of your Star Wars habit and how you wish you could resell Star Wars books for the same price you bought them for (which I’m sure you will in NWO-“stateless” world xD )
Purrrhaps a local library could help you w/ that? :3
Ami, in NWO StatelessWorld, Star Wars novels will be our main currency. Stock up now!
Hey NWO: Ready to answer my question yet? Or zhinxy’s? Or anyone else’s?
Or are you running and hiding from Ami again?
Ami – “I’ve noticed that NWO’s posting time dropped again once I showed up XD And he waited until he thought I might be gone and posted to avoid setting me off, or having Zhinxy, Ruka or others IM me XD
Soon I’ll have him trained to figure out who has outside contact w/ me, and it won’t just be me that causes him to stop posting and be afraid but those ppl too xD”
HE IS TOO BRAVE FOR THAT! HE WILL SURVIVE EVERYTHING YOU THROW AT HIM! HE IS UNAFRAAAAID!
…Questions, NWO, answer them!
Want me to leave so you guys can have your chewtoy back? xD
“That’d be a mans sexuality, his actions.”
NWO, have you ever given and/or had an orgasm before? All this time I thought it was just female sexuality that you had absolutely no idea about, and then you decide to drop this gem!!