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Manosphere dudes: Let’s set up fake feminist blogs to take down feminism!

On the internet, no one knows you're a dog disguised as a cat.

Over on the always repugnant In Mala Fide, a guest blogger by the name of What is To Be Done recently offered his comrades in the “anti-establishment / man/ biorealist / HBD/ reactionary / racist / patriarch / tradcon / whatever blogosphere” what he evidently sees as a revolutionary suggestion: instead of trying to fight the evil feminists with “well-reasoned arguments,” why not simply set up fake feminist blogs, and post shit on them to make feminists looks bad?

WITBD explained:

On the Internet, nobody knows you’re a saboteur. We are naturally smarter than the feminists (in fact, objectively better in every conceivable way), and in addition, we are well-trained in deception by our studies of game. In other words, it’ll be a piece of cake for us to mimic their arguments and appear to them as really smart girls who really know their shit.

Really? Because no one I’ve ever run across in the manosphere has managed to pull off a particularly convincing impersonation of a really smart anything.  And in order to effectively parody something, you have to actually understand it first. Given some of the truly odd things MRAs and manospherians believe about feminism and feminists – see my post on Operation Alimony yesterday for one recent example — I’m somehow thinking that the only people dumb enough to be fooled by these “false-flag-feminist” blogs will be other, yep, MRAs and manosphereians.

Nonetheless, WITBD claimed that’s he’s already started putting his little plan into action:

I have already begun false flag blogging myself. At this stage, giving the link would ruin the whole thing. But it’s out there. And “false flag blogging” returned only 87 results, of which only a few actually seemed to discuss what I’m talking about, so for the time being it seems nobody is watching out for it. Not that they’d be able to tell anyway.

His fantasies got more and more extravagant:

Think long term. The endgame is to build a big enough presence that coming out as a fake feminist generates buzz in and of itself. Imagine if it came out that the founder of Feministing was actually a men’s rights activist.

And that he could fly, and shoot lasers from his eyes! Imagination is fun!

(Note: The founder of Feministing is not actually an MRA, or a man. Nor can she fly or shoot lasers from her eyes.)

WITBD continued fantasizing:

Eventually, our false flag bloggers will coordinate with our legitimate bloggers and have “debates” where both sides are controlled by us.

And where the only people paying attention are you guys.

If you feel you are getting really good at this, attack some prominent feminists for not being feminist enough. I don’t even know what that would mean, but, hey, this is feminism. Nonsense is our bread and butter.

Wheels within wheels!

Some on In Mala Fide thought this was a dandy idea. Frost wrote:

Fuck yeah. Awesome post. …

[W]e need to get bold and creative with how we fight the war for the best minds in the western world. False flag blogging is a wide-open front. Especially if you’re new to writing and aren’t yet confident in your voice – and unless you have written many thousands of words already, the truth is your writing is probably going to suck – a false-flag blog would be a great way to hone your skills while only having to actually write at the level of typical mid-twenties gender studies grad student.

Here’s a post of mine that sadly didn’t get a lot of attention, but it’s one of my own personal favourites:

http://www.freedomtwentyfive.com/2011/08/an-open-letter-to-the-manginas-of-the-internet/

I submitted it to The Good Men project, Manboobz, and a few other Mangina sites as a guest post, but sadly no one bit. These people are just so easy to parody, it’s ridiculous.

Regular Man Boobz readers may have a rather different assessment of how effective his parody was.

Others on In Mala Fide were a bit more skeptical of the “false-flag” idea.  As out-and-proud racist thwak put it:

It sounds like a good idea, but it won’t work. Its been tried by white people on counter racism forums and they always got busted. We used to call it the “nigger impersonation syndrome”.

A white person would sign up with a name like “Jamal” and speak ebonics… but they always got busted cause at some point they hafta come out of “nigger cloak” to practice racism; i.e, say and/or do something a black person would not say/do.

Sure, they have the option of coming on the discussion board and pretending to be a full time nigger, but how does that advance the racist agenda? …

The “black White Supremacist” stuck out like a nun in a whore house everytime.

And got busted everytime.

Gosh, it’s almost as if black people are actual human beings and not just racist caricatures. And that real black people can somehow magically spot the difference between other real black people and racist assholes posting in “ebonics.”

Huh. Could the same happen with feminists?

In a followup post, WITBD dismissed the critics as uncreative cowards. And it turns out that fake blogs are only the starting point in his grand plan.

The fact is we are not the alt-right. We are the new left. We are the oppressed proles … They are the establishment. We lost “our” country. They control it all now. We have blogs. And a handful of churches and seasteading. Sucks.

Now it’s time to move on. We have to take these pieces of shit down and that means we must use leftist tactics. This kind of blogging operation is the beginning of a long march to infiltrate and undermine their institutions.

Sounds like someone has been reading Mao’s Little Red Book!

Playing around? Real men fight to win, period. We fight feminism specifically because it’s the weak point of liberalism. Read your Sun Tzu. Attacking the entire rainbow coalition at once is madness. You always attack the enemy where he is weakest.

And the weakest links are the ladies, naturally.

[N]ot all women actually benefit from feminism. They may think they win at first, but we know full well that feminist sex and the city-type women lose big time: no kids, no committed alpha, no nothing. Most women don’t benefit, and many women are recognizing this.

Right now among women, feminism is high status and actually being feminine is low status. But all women instinctively want to actually be feminine, and they have better life results when they do. We all know about how to manipulate women’s idea of status. This should be easy to work out.

If we take out or marginally disrupt feminism, and pull lots of white women out of the coalition, it crumbles in short order.

Oh no! Not the white women! Don’t take the white women!

High-IQ thundercunts are major war engines of the regime, and especially the childless ones. They actually run the agencies, corporations, HR departments, universities, etc. Without them, the enemy has a harder time operating. As well, white women are blatantly used as bait to recruit minority men into liberal groups.

Anti-feminism is something that we know well … and it is something that the other elements of the liberal coalition actually somewhat agree with us on because its not like the blacks, Mexicans, Arabs etc. are keen on empowering their women. All men of all races have common ground in dealing with the unique female brand of bullshit and thus are potential sympathizers on this issue.

So this is his grand plan: for racist white dudes like him (and much of In Mala Fide’s readership) to build a sort of antifeminist rainbow coalition with “blacks, Mexicans, Arabs, etc” … in order to take down feminism … in order to weaken liberalism … in order to screw over the “blacks, Mexicans, Arabs, etc.”

Yeah, that’s totally gonna work.

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Crumbelievable
Crumbelievable
12 years ago

The entire movement really is dictated by Insane Troll Logic

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/InsaneTrollLogic

Spearhafoc
12 years ago

If you feel you are getting really good at this, attack some prominent feminists for not being feminist enough. I don’t even know what that would mean, but, hey, this is feminism. Nonsense is our bread and butter.

The fact that he doesn’t know what one feminist accusing another feminist of not being feminist enough looks like is proof that he has never read anything from a feminist blog/comment section.

Dracula
Dracula
12 years ago

Honestly, I’m not sure this plan is as bad as it appears to be on the surface. I mean, these guys have already done a terrific job discrediting the Men’s Rights Movement, so they clearly have the requisite skill set to pull this off.

Holly Pervocracy
12 years ago

Now I really, really, really want to see what they come up with. Unfortunately, there’s a lot of feminist blogs out there and therefore a lot of completely-off-the-wall feminist blogs out there, so narrowing down which one is fake is like narrowing down which “Sonic the Hedgehog” fan bloggers don’t really like Sonic the Hedgehog. It’s difficult only because it’s pointless.

bekabot
12 years ago

I think this is a great idea in theory, but I dread the possiblity that it might turn out to be kind of sad and lame in performance. These guys think they live in a world in which sheer determination can overcome all obstacles, and in which a conviction that you are right makes you right. Unluckily for them, they live in a world where obstacles eat determination with cookies for tea, and in which not knowing what you’re talking about makes you less interesting in the long run (though it may provide you with a boost at the start).

I still hope for wonderful things, don’t get me wrong. But age and experience have rendered me skeptical.

That having been said, Ozymandias deserves not only his own blog but his own internet. In his case I’m not willing to add “JMO” b/c in his case I don’t think it’s just my opinion but the stern and utter truth.

Shadow
Shadow
12 years ago

@Ozy

Alpha male please *flutters eyelashes*. I then suggest we go around to PUA blogs and post Ozy’s post and watch the meltdown against feminazi conspiracies!!

@burgundy

huzzah for conveying tone. I had to physically drag my hand away from the keyboard to stop myself typing bout muthafuckin snakes on muthafuckin planes causing the destruction of Western society as we know it

Holly Pervocracy
12 years ago

Ozy, you’re terrifying.

Shadow
Shadow
12 years ago

@bekabot

Ozy identifies as zie and runs “No Seriously, What About The Menz?”

bekabot
12 years ago

@ Shadow:

That was a generic “he”. (I’m still using the grammatical rules I was brought up with, out of laziness as much as anything else.) No offense was meant.

Shadow
Shadow
12 years ago

@bekabot

Oh, I didn’t think you were trying to be offensive, I still use he/she myself when I’m unsure. The reason I mentioned it is because Ozy identifies as genderqueer so the pronoun zie is an intrinsic part of zir identity. It was just an FYI

Dracula
Dracula
12 years ago

I would like to take this opportunity to shamelessly plug the singular “they” for use in cases of unknown pronoun preferences. I’m in favor of it.

Men's Rights Activist Lieutenant
Men's Rights Activist Lieutenant
12 years ago

Hugo “A. Hole” Schwyzer, in my opinion, could be a model for these guys.

Spearhafoc
12 years ago

Yes, MRAL, you don’t like Schwyzer. Neither do I. Can we move on, please?

Holly Pervocracy
12 years ago

MRAL, it’s time to leave.

You’re acting trollish, and you said you didn’t want to troll. But honestly, there’s not much for you to do here but troll, because you sure as hell don’t seem to be interested in mocking and dissecting misogyny.

So go somewhere else. Go find a video game board, a college-students board, a funny pictures board. Find other people with whom you can talk about other things. If you’re done trolling (and you’re not about to start seriously participating in anti-misogyny discussion), there’s no reason for you to stick around Manboobz. And the longer you do, the quicker you backslide into your old trolly habits.

Men's Rights Activist Lieutenant
Men's Rights Activist Lieutenant
12 years ago

Hey, I’ve mocked misogyny a little bit here, I just don’t like doing it all the time because it implies that misandry is not an equally valid problem. David should post more misandrist stuff and I could dissect that.

Caraz
Caraz
12 years ago

Wow, I really didn’t know MRAL hated Hugo Schwyzer. He hides it so well!

bobbyjo (@bobbyjo1950)
12 years ago

Bingo. If mra dudes have a valid case, there be no need for them to make shit up.

You’re telling me they got to make up shit to prove their case? Proof positive their side of the story is weak. Desperate dudes.

Viscaria
Viscaria
12 years ago

David’s blog, David’s topic; which you’ll notice he has laid out nicely at the right margin for you.

You’ve switched from a troll who only believes half of what he says, to a troll that believes all of it. I don’t consider it an improvement, personally.

nwoslave
12 years ago

Time for our update on the book o larnin’ This portion will be
“In war, women act as “cheerleaders” for both sides at once, goading otherwise peaceful men to fight. These women have no political goals or opinions; they just like watching men die.”

By now you’ve all seen isolated clips of the Egyptian woman in the blue bra being beaten. Here’s the whole video.

As you can plainly see the men are beaten equally as bad, in fact she is taken away for her protection from further beatings. Egyptian women took to the streets wiht the rallying cry of… “Drag me, strip me. My brother’s blood will cover me.”

A most telling rally cry. She wasn’t “stripped” anymore than the man laying next to her was. She was basically beaten equally as bad as the men were, yet the media on the left, middle and right called only “her” beating an atrocity. A crime against humanity. A violation of human rights.

“One” woman suffered and the world cared.
Thousands of men suffered and the world shrugged.

Where were all these women when it was only men being beaten up to that point?
Weren’t they willing to have their sisters blood shed for men?
Women on the left, middle and right all pledged to spill men’s blood for their protection.
—————-
“Judaism is a nationality.”

If I say Jewish is a faith I’ll be wrong. If I say Jewish is a race I’ll be wrong. Either way I lose so I guess feminists wins this one.
—————–
“Portugal and Spain are populated mostly by brown people.”

Although I don’t recall ever saying as such, I’ll have to agree I did since feminism is never wrong. This is again an unwinnable statement. If I say they’re white I’m wrong, if I say they’re brown I’m wrong. I lose by default again.
—————-
“In the story of Jesus saving the adulteress from stoning, the moral is that sinners deserve to be stoned.”

No, it’s don’t stone the sinner but forgive her. The tricky part that eludes feminists is the go and sin no more part. Feminists prefer to strip in public slutwalk parades, acting like animals in heat while demanding praise for their debased culture and lack of control.
—————
“The United States is a communist dictatorship. If it were a free country, people wouldn’t have to pay taxes or get licenses to drive.”

A drivers license is completely useless. I drove for seven years without one. It doesn’t mean anything. But far more important then your childish rant is our communist dictatorship. In case you haven’t heard the emperor had signed the NDAA.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/12/with-reservations-obama-signs-act-to-allow-detention-of-citizens/

Well he signed it with reservations of course, making it alrighty! Some of the things you might not know that make you a suspected terrorist, worthy of indefinite military detention. Owning either 2 or, 2 or more guns, I forget which. Also “stockpiling” more than 7 days worth of food. There’s a host of other things but I’ll leave it up to feminist wisdom to root them out and decide if it’s a good thing. All hail the emperor!!!

Lauralot
Lauralot
12 years ago

NWO, you’re in the wrong thread.

Holly Pervocracy
12 years ago

A drivers license is completely useless. I drove for seven years without one. It doesn’t mean anything.

You went seven years without getting pulled over?

I guess you’re a good driver… or an infrequent driver… or a chronic liar.

As for the rest of it, all I got was some “people disapproved of a woman being beaten, this is terrible because women being beaten is awesome,” and some “oooh, whatever feminism says is right, I wouldn’t want to argue with feminism, because obviously I have no real argument to make.”

Also I agree with you that the NDAA is terrible but I don’t think it’s going to be enforced against people who buy too many groceries.

Leslie
Leslie
12 years ago

@Dire Sloth – “What Is To Be Done” was Lenin’s favorite book, a truly leaden didactic novel about the utopian Socialist future written in the mid-1800’s by one Chernyshevsky. The young Lenin borrowed the title for a pamphlet he wrote at the turn of the 20th century arguing for the formation of a revolutionary workers’ party in Russia, which is now at least as famous as the novel itself.

I hate it when they take things I love and ruin them. Maybe I’ll go with you on the Half Life fanfic hypothesis.

Lauralot
Lauralot
12 years ago

So…a woman being beaten proves that women act as cheerleaders in war.

WELL NOW IT ALL MAKES SENSE

Holly Pervocracy
12 years ago

Oh yeah, I forgot to ask:

“You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you”

Agree or disagree?

(I won’t go in circles forever this time because I don’t want to shit up the whole thread. But I do think it’s hilarious that asking a Christian if he agrees with one of Christ’s most famous teachings is some sort of unspeakably cruel “gotcha” question.)

(Next on the Holly Pervocracy Attack Interview, we’ll ask a vegetarian if he eats meat! Oh, what cruel traps we lay.)

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

How do these clowns expect to effectively parody something that they don’t actually understand? There have been multiple attempts at it already from a commenter POV and they always fail, so…listen to your white supremacist friend, even he’s smarter than you are?

Now there’s a line I never foresaw the opportunity to write.