Over on the always repugnant In Mala Fide, a guest blogger by the name of What is To Be Done recently offered his comrades in the “anti-establishment / man/ biorealist / HBD/ reactionary / racist / patriarch / tradcon / whatever blogosphere” what he evidently sees as a revolutionary suggestion: instead of trying to fight the evil feminists with “well-reasoned arguments,” why not simply set up fake feminist blogs, and post shit on them to make feminists looks bad?
WITBD explained:
On the Internet, nobody knows you’re a saboteur. We are naturally smarter than the feminists (in fact, objectively better in every conceivable way), and in addition, we are well-trained in deception by our studies of game. In other words, it’ll be a piece of cake for us to mimic their arguments and appear to them as really smart girls who really know their shit.
Really? Because no one I’ve ever run across in the manosphere has managed to pull off a particularly convincing impersonation of a really smart anything. And in order to effectively parody something, you have to actually understand it first. Given some of the truly odd things MRAs and manospherians believe about feminism and feminists – see my post on Operation Alimony yesterday for one recent example — I’m somehow thinking that the only people dumb enough to be fooled by these “false-flag-feminist” blogs will be other, yep, MRAs and manosphereians.
Nonetheless, WITBD claimed that’s he’s already started putting his little plan into action:
I have already begun false flag blogging myself. At this stage, giving the link would ruin the whole thing. But it’s out there. And “false flag blogging” returned only 87 results, of which only a few actually seemed to discuss what I’m talking about, so for the time being it seems nobody is watching out for it. Not that they’d be able to tell anyway.
His fantasies got more and more extravagant:
Think long term. The endgame is to build a big enough presence that coming out as a fake feminist generates buzz in and of itself. Imagine if it came out that the founder of Feministing was actually a men’s rights activist.
And that he could fly, and shoot lasers from his eyes! Imagination is fun!
(Note: The founder of Feministing is not actually an MRA, or a man. Nor can she fly or shoot lasers from her eyes.)
WITBD continued fantasizing:
Eventually, our false flag bloggers will coordinate with our legitimate bloggers and have “debates” where both sides are controlled by us.
And where the only people paying attention are you guys.
If you feel you are getting really good at this, attack some prominent feminists for not being feminist enough. I don’t even know what that would mean, but, hey, this is feminism. Nonsense is our bread and butter.
Wheels within wheels!
Some on In Mala Fide thought this was a dandy idea. Frost wrote:
Fuck yeah. Awesome post. …
[W]e need to get bold and creative with how we fight the war for the best minds in the western world. False flag blogging is a wide-open front. Especially if you’re new to writing and aren’t yet confident in your voice – and unless you have written many thousands of words already, the truth is your writing is probably going to suck – a false-flag blog would be a great way to hone your skills while only having to actually write at the level of typical mid-twenties gender studies grad student.
Here’s a post of mine that sadly didn’t get a lot of attention, but it’s one of my own personal favourites:
http://www.freedomtwentyfive.com/2011/08/an-open-letter-to-the-manginas-of-the-internet/
I submitted it to The Good Men project, Manboobz, and a few other Mangina sites as a guest post, but sadly no one bit. These people are just so easy to parody, it’s ridiculous.
Regular Man Boobz readers may have a rather different assessment of how effective his parody was.
Others on In Mala Fide were a bit more skeptical of the “false-flag” idea. As out-and-proud racist thwak put it:
It sounds like a good idea, but it won’t work. Its been tried by white people on counter racism forums and they always got busted. We used to call it the “nigger impersonation syndrome”.
A white person would sign up with a name like “Jamal” and speak ebonics… but they always got busted cause at some point they hafta come out of “nigger cloak” to practice racism; i.e, say and/or do something a black person would not say/do.
Sure, they have the option of coming on the discussion board and pretending to be a full time nigger, but how does that advance the racist agenda? …
The “black White Supremacist” stuck out like a nun in a whore house everytime.
And got busted everytime.
Gosh, it’s almost as if black people are actual human beings and not just racist caricatures. And that real black people can somehow magically spot the difference between other real black people and racist assholes posting in “ebonics.”
Huh. Could the same happen with feminists?
In a followup post, WITBD dismissed the critics as uncreative cowards. And it turns out that fake blogs are only the starting point in his grand plan.
The fact is we are not the alt-right. We are the new left. We are the oppressed proles … They are the establishment. We lost “our” country. They control it all now. We have blogs. And a handful of churches and seasteading. Sucks.
Now it’s time to move on. We have to take these pieces of shit down and that means we must use leftist tactics. This kind of blogging operation is the beginning of a long march to infiltrate and undermine their institutions.
Sounds like someone has been reading Mao’s Little Red Book!
Playing around? Real men fight to win, period. We fight feminism specifically because it’s the weak point of liberalism. Read your Sun Tzu. Attacking the entire rainbow coalition at once is madness. You always attack the enemy where he is weakest.
And the weakest links are the ladies, naturally.
[N]ot all women actually benefit from feminism. They may think they win at first, but we know full well that feminist sex and the city-type women lose big time: no kids, no committed alpha, no nothing. Most women don’t benefit, and many women are recognizing this.
Right now among women, feminism is high status and actually being feminine is low status. But all women instinctively want to actually be feminine, and they have better life results when they do. We all know about how to manipulate women’s idea of status. This should be easy to work out.
If we take out or marginally disrupt feminism, and pull lots of white women out of the coalition, it crumbles in short order.
Oh no! Not the white women! Don’t take the white women!
High-IQ thundercunts are major war engines of the regime, and especially the childless ones. They actually run the agencies, corporations, HR departments, universities, etc. Without them, the enemy has a harder time operating. As well, white women are blatantly used as bait to recruit minority men into liberal groups.
Anti-feminism is something that we know well … and it is something that the other elements of the liberal coalition actually somewhat agree with us on because its not like the blacks, Mexicans, Arabs etc. are keen on empowering their women. All men of all races have common ground in dealing with the unique female brand of bullshit and thus are potential sympathizers on this issue.
So this is his grand plan: for racist white dudes like him (and much of In Mala Fide’s readership) to build a sort of antifeminist rainbow coalition with “blacks, Mexicans, Arabs, etc” … in order to take down feminism … in order to weaken liberalism … in order to screw over the “blacks, Mexicans, Arabs, etc.”
Yeah, that’s totally gonna work.
@hellkell: But he can’t work! Remember? TITLE IX HAS A QUOTA.
@Pecunium
Are civilians “required” to kill or die?
There are only 2 genders. Other than the misfortunate hermaphrodites.
@zhinxy
Are there more teachers per students now as oppossed to 1970?
Gotta love Affirmative Action and ALIMONY! Two issues that are BIG FEMINIST THINGS THAT FEMINISTS ALL LOVE AND FIGHT FOR AND PUT EVERYWHERE AND IT’S ALL THEY TALK ABOUT EVEN THOUGH THEY SAY THEY WANT EQUALITY only when people who have a bone to pick with feminism are around!
Bullshit, NWO. you said that gendered aspects are what creates cultural differences between men and women. So by your logic, if two-spirits existed in a culture, and they did, that must mean a third-gendered aspect created them.
NWO: Did you say this: There’s difference between civilian deaths and military deaths. Civilians deaths are unintended. Military deaths are men either forced to kill and die, or do so to protect the civilians, (women and children).”
Yes, you did. You said civilian deaths were unintended. That’s a lie.
Changing the argument now (who is doing the killing) doesn’t change your initial lie.
If you insist on maintaining the lie, I’ll start asking you about your religious practice. Can you admit you were wrong?
I’ll wager you can’t.
@NWO I don’t give a fuck, the entire school system as it stands now is a socially engineered, pseudoscientific, soul-crushing travesty that needs to be radically torn apart from the ground up and built up in accordance with science, reason, the real public good and not the good of “employers”, and above all the individual? (Please read a book someday, and let it be one by John Taylor Gatto…)
But yes, if you count in richer communities and the fact that people had well-intentioned but ultimately broken ideas of doing all they could to shrink class size.
http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2011/04/class_size_reduction.html
Does it really help? No,.
My point wasn’t whether classes had grown or shrunk. My point is that when you get either a “raise funding and become involved at the local level in the current system” answer, you bitch about more governemtn, and when you a “state schooling needs to end” answer, you say it’s all the same, and don’t like that either.
So WHAT. DO. YOU. WANT?
@zhinxy
Of course feminists love alimony, child support instead of equal custody, Title IX, VAWA, Mandatory arrests, Primary Aggressor, AA, and all the many other entitlements.
I guess when the level of womens privilege in all realms of modern day society is compared to just the few privileges women enjoyed in the past it would seem like women were oppressed in the past.
Women weren’t as privileged in the past as they are today. And that equals oppression.
As to Gender: In Russian there are three.
Masculine
Feminine
Neuter.
The same is true in German. Not my opinion; true. You can look it up; the 1911 Encyclopedia Britannica could explain it all to you.
Three genders.
Just like
He
She
Zie
It’s called language.
NWO: What you meant to say was, Men aren’t as privileged in the past as they are today. And that equals oppression.
FTFY
I’m going off to the store to pick up the latest Detective Comics. NWO, I expect that you will have answered my question by the time I return. Because if you don’t (or if you try and twist the meaning of your original statement or say something racist about Native Americans, or any other attempt to weasel out of your lie) then you will once again have marked yourself as a liar and a coward, and everyone who doubted that (which is mostly likely no one) will know it.
“Women weren’t as privileged in the past as they are today. And that equals oppression.”
It’s funny how accurately this statement describes the Men’s Rights Movement.
NWO, well…. Okay, you completely ignored my school question, and you’re proving my point that these issues aren’t so much ISSUES THAT ARE BIG FOR FEMINISTS as ISSUES PEOPLE WHO ARE AGAINST FEMINIST SAY ARE THEIR BIG ISSUES… But what the hell, I’ll say this –
me and the ACLU were actually against very earlier iterations of VAWA, and I still have my reservations on some of it, but I’ve gotten a lot more mellow now that the language has become A LOT MORE gender neutral.
So what, in your mind, exactly, is VAWA, and what is wrong with it?
@zhinxy
I want you to stop pretending to be something you’re not. You’re a feminist. You’re part of a hate movement. Contrary to the defintion of feminism. I’m sure the definition of communism in the communist library says it’s something wonderful as well. Both are the same and both are destructive.
Lauralot – “Women weren’t as privileged in the past as they are today. And that equals oppression.”
It’s funny how accurately this statement describes the Men’s Rights Movement.”
Srsly
Someone who hates gays as much as you shouldn’t really call other people hateful.
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/pot_calling_the_kettle_black
@zhinxy
I want you to stop pretending to be something you’re not. You’re a feminist. You’re part of a hate movement. Contrary to the defintion of feminism. I’m sure the definition of communism in the communist library says it’s something wonderful as well. Both are the same and both are destructive.
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How am I pretending?What precisely am i pretending? You can’t just say YOU’RE PRETENDING!
@Pecunium
Are there many neuters running around? Do they lack genitals? I guess castrated men could be considered neuters. Didn’t they used to do that to boys back in ancient China? To protect the elite women? Kinda like playtoys for those elite women. Oh how they must have giggled!
I preferred Emma. NWO is up to the same old boring bullshit.
Also, me and CassandraSays have created a secret freedom pigeon plan for my magic libertarian Sea Country. I’m just warning you.
(If you love freedom so much, paypal guy, why is my account asking for my social security card…)
NWO, seriously, what about the Two-Spirits? Or the Fa’afafine? Or the hijra?
@zhinxy
You’re a feminist. What more needs to be said? You belong to and promote a hate movement.
So NWO. Women being forbidden to work jobs they were qualified for and not being allowed to have credit cards is… not oppression?
@Pecunium
Are there many neuters running around? Do they lack genitals? I guess castrated men could be considered neuters. Didn’t they used to do that to boys back in ancient China? To protect the elite women? Kinda like playtoys for those elite women. Oh how they must have giggled!
…
Yeah, that had nothign to do with the elite men and their property. But go on, tell us more about China! (PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE!)
@zhinxy
You’re a feminist. What more needs to be said? You belong to and promote a hate movement.
…
A lot more needs to be said if you’re insisting I spend a great deal of my life engaged in pretending I “don’t want more government” actually 😉