Over on the always repugnant In Mala Fide, a guest blogger by the name of What is To Be Done recently offered his comrades in the “anti-establishment / man/ biorealist / HBD/ reactionary / racist / patriarch / tradcon / whatever blogosphere” what he evidently sees as a revolutionary suggestion: instead of trying to fight the evil feminists with “well-reasoned arguments,” why not simply set up fake feminist blogs, and post shit on them to make feminists looks bad?
WITBD explained:
On the Internet, nobody knows you’re a saboteur. We are naturally smarter than the feminists (in fact, objectively better in every conceivable way), and in addition, we are well-trained in deception by our studies of game. In other words, it’ll be a piece of cake for us to mimic their arguments and appear to them as really smart girls who really know their shit.
Really? Because no one I’ve ever run across in the manosphere has managed to pull off a particularly convincing impersonation of a really smart anything. And in order to effectively parody something, you have to actually understand it first. Given some of the truly odd things MRAs and manospherians believe about feminism and feminists – see my post on Operation Alimony yesterday for one recent example — I’m somehow thinking that the only people dumb enough to be fooled by these “false-flag-feminist” blogs will be other, yep, MRAs and manosphereians.
Nonetheless, WITBD claimed that’s he’s already started putting his little plan into action:
I have already begun false flag blogging myself. At this stage, giving the link would ruin the whole thing. But it’s out there. And “false flag blogging” returned only 87 results, of which only a few actually seemed to discuss what I’m talking about, so for the time being it seems nobody is watching out for it. Not that they’d be able to tell anyway.
His fantasies got more and more extravagant:
Think long term. The endgame is to build a big enough presence that coming out as a fake feminist generates buzz in and of itself. Imagine if it came out that the founder of Feministing was actually a men’s rights activist.
And that he could fly, and shoot lasers from his eyes! Imagination is fun!
(Note: The founder of Feministing is not actually an MRA, or a man. Nor can she fly or shoot lasers from her eyes.)
WITBD continued fantasizing:
Eventually, our false flag bloggers will coordinate with our legitimate bloggers and have “debates” where both sides are controlled by us.
And where the only people paying attention are you guys.
If you feel you are getting really good at this, attack some prominent feminists for not being feminist enough. I don’t even know what that would mean, but, hey, this is feminism. Nonsense is our bread and butter.
Wheels within wheels!
Some on In Mala Fide thought this was a dandy idea. Frost wrote:
Fuck yeah. Awesome post. …
[W]e need to get bold and creative with how we fight the war for the best minds in the western world. False flag blogging is a wide-open front. Especially if you’re new to writing and aren’t yet confident in your voice – and unless you have written many thousands of words already, the truth is your writing is probably going to suck – a false-flag blog would be a great way to hone your skills while only having to actually write at the level of typical mid-twenties gender studies grad student.
Here’s a post of mine that sadly didn’t get a lot of attention, but it’s one of my own personal favourites:
http://www.freedomtwentyfive.com/2011/08/an-open-letter-to-the-manginas-of-the-internet/
I submitted it to The Good Men project, Manboobz, and a few other Mangina sites as a guest post, but sadly no one bit. These people are just so easy to parody, it’s ridiculous.
Regular Man Boobz readers may have a rather different assessment of how effective his parody was.
Others on In Mala Fide were a bit more skeptical of the “false-flag” idea. As out-and-proud racist thwak put it:
It sounds like a good idea, but it won’t work. Its been tried by white people on counter racism forums and they always got busted. We used to call it the “nigger impersonation syndrome”.
A white person would sign up with a name like “Jamal” and speak ebonics… but they always got busted cause at some point they hafta come out of “nigger cloak” to practice racism; i.e, say and/or do something a black person would not say/do.
Sure, they have the option of coming on the discussion board and pretending to be a full time nigger, but how does that advance the racist agenda? …
The “black White Supremacist” stuck out like a nun in a whore house everytime.
And got busted everytime.
Gosh, it’s almost as if black people are actual human beings and not just racist caricatures. And that real black people can somehow magically spot the difference between other real black people and racist assholes posting in “ebonics.”
Huh. Could the same happen with feminists?
In a followup post, WITBD dismissed the critics as uncreative cowards. And it turns out that fake blogs are only the starting point in his grand plan.
The fact is we are not the alt-right. We are the new left. We are the oppressed proles … They are the establishment. We lost “our” country. They control it all now. We have blogs. And a handful of churches and seasteading. Sucks.
Now it’s time to move on. We have to take these pieces of shit down and that means we must use leftist tactics. This kind of blogging operation is the beginning of a long march to infiltrate and undermine their institutions.
Sounds like someone has been reading Mao’s Little Red Book!
Playing around? Real men fight to win, period. We fight feminism specifically because it’s the weak point of liberalism. Read your Sun Tzu. Attacking the entire rainbow coalition at once is madness. You always attack the enemy where he is weakest.
And the weakest links are the ladies, naturally.
[N]ot all women actually benefit from feminism. They may think they win at first, but we know full well that feminist sex and the city-type women lose big time: no kids, no committed alpha, no nothing. Most women don’t benefit, and many women are recognizing this.
Right now among women, feminism is high status and actually being feminine is low status. But all women instinctively want to actually be feminine, and they have better life results when they do. We all know about how to manipulate women’s idea of status. This should be easy to work out.
If we take out or marginally disrupt feminism, and pull lots of white women out of the coalition, it crumbles in short order.
Oh no! Not the white women! Don’t take the white women!
High-IQ thundercunts are major war engines of the regime, and especially the childless ones. They actually run the agencies, corporations, HR departments, universities, etc. Without them, the enemy has a harder time operating. As well, white women are blatantly used as bait to recruit minority men into liberal groups.
Anti-feminism is something that we know well … and it is something that the other elements of the liberal coalition actually somewhat agree with us on because its not like the blacks, Mexicans, Arabs etc. are keen on empowering their women. All men of all races have common ground in dealing with the unique female brand of bullshit and thus are potential sympathizers on this issue.
So this is his grand plan: for racist white dudes like him (and much of In Mala Fide’s readership) to build a sort of antifeminist rainbow coalition with “blacks, Mexicans, Arabs, etc” … in order to take down feminism … in order to weaken liberalism … in order to screw over the “blacks, Mexicans, Arabs, etc.”
Yeah, that’s totally gonna work.
David–Requesting a Thundercunts t-shirt offering.
pleasepleasepleasepleaseplease
I’m now wondering if I could do a Bizarro PUA blog. I’ve probably read enough Roissy…
someone give me a topic!
Zhinxy: I will give Twisty credit– she has a way with words and she’s quite often funny, which is a good trait in a radfem. Nothing worse than a humorless asshole, after all.
Ozy – How to game in supermarkets – Specifically the 15 items or less aisle.
Thundercunts HO!
Because the speed aisle is the best place to pick up fast women, amiright or amiright?
Pretty sure this guy only thinks of women as sex toys and babymakers, since apparently he can’t think of a single non-sex-toy, non-baby-making benefit of feminism for women. Psst, hey buddy: if you leave the room, we still exist! Sometimes we even talk amongst ourselves!
I’ve actually thought it might be fun to do some kind of comedy with the kind of straw feminism MRAs think feminism actually is. You know, a character who actually hates all men and advocates for the kind of world where men are imprisoned/put to death for speaking anything bad about a woman.
Bizarro Manbooz = Chikdix?, wymynballz?, wymyntestez?
Actually, same goes for our would-be parodist. Hahaha, male feminists! The sex that they are clearly after is going to be terrible sex! This person has not even considered that male feminists might be interacting with women in a way that does not involve direct penis contact.
What a terrible idea. Lying about feminism to make feminists look bad? First of all, there is no need. If feminism is great, there is no need to make it look bad, and if it’s bad, then just repeat the truth about it and you’ll win. Second, lying about something/someone will make you look bad in the end (even if they are an asshole and deserve to be ridiculed).
Game in the fifteen items or fewer aisle is a classic example of Day Game. Day Game is a subtle art: the high-quality negs you need to get through a woman’s full bitch shield at night would send her whimpering during the day. However, for aspiring PUAs who are not getting one-night-stands at night, it’s often ideal: you’ll meet fewer masculinized sluts and more shy quality girls, and you’ll get flaked less.
Opening at the fifteen items or fewer line, however, does require a basic DHV: with only five minutes to start a conversation, you’ll want to get those gina tingles flowing freely. If she’s not intrigued, she’ll forget about you by the time she puts her groceries in the car.
A situational opener is probably your best bet. Consider a witty comment on the tabloid girls (“that Angelina Jolie is not for me, too skinny”– also a subtle disqualifier!) or on what she’s buying (“peanut butter, bread, and jelly? I’ve been reading the Art of French Cooking too!”– deliver with complete sincerity). However, if you can’t think of a witty one, a standard Roosh V elderly opener, such as “do you think the organic or the locally grown tomatoes are better?” will do.
The most important thing to remember is the three-second rule. You see a girl, you’re hitting on her three seconds later. Feel your masculine energy. Women should not remain unbothered around you.
On an unrelated note, pls 2 have cute puppy just like that. Look at that face! D’awwwwwwwww
@Zhinxy
Femonade!!! OMG, that woman slayed me!! The two posts that stood out so much that I still remember were the one she wrote about how weight-lifting men are just exercising their misogyny in making sure that they’re bigger than women, and the on she wrote saying that if you really loved women you would never have PIV sex with them because of the risk of HPV. The second was particularly funny because her argument was since most women don’t orgasm from PIV, PIV is just for men. And when a woman came on and said that she enjoyed PIV with her boyfriend, the blogger had a particularly hilarious failed attempt at convincing her otherwise lolll
@Ozy
If you were to write a post entitled “On Gaming an Alpha”, I shall owe you one sundae with cherry and/or other fruit/s of your choice
OZY – Excellent! I could have stood for a tangent about Herbs or other poor sucker betas and how you’ll see their suffering all around you, but Roissy may have spoiled me.
@Shadow, as far as I can tell, Femonade’s whole bag is to take Dworkin’s critiques of PIV in Intercourse, and then make those already rather batshit arguments into exactly what every anti-feminist who straws Dworkin claims they are. Het Sex really IS Evil Rape, Dammit! Also, to hate trans women worse than Mary Daly, if that were even possible.
Also, the line about peanut butter, bread, jelly and french cooking actually could be very funny.. I might use it myself, I mean, I’ve always had luck teasing people of both genders as a way to break the ice, when I’m in my more social mode, and how precisely it turned into the PUA “SCIENCE OF NEGGIN!” I still am puzzled.
Shadow: Alpha male or alpha female? Those are two substantially different articles.
Zhinxy: Your wish is my command, my darling. *clears throat*
Your pulsing masculine energy should stand out against the waves of herbs with messenger bags and dogs in their strollers, cute Asian girlfriend by their side, or of supplicating betas who see a girl like that, stay silent, and masturbate furiously when they get home as tears drip out their eyes. Worse, if you’ve eschewed Whole Foods for a prole grocery store, you’re likely to see the fattened thunderthighs of the underclass waddling to the checkout counter. Get the hot girls early before they’re destroyed by thugboy cock and HoHo’s.
Maybe Hugo Schwyzer (Asshole) is an black ops MRA?
Please do this oh please oh please oh please.
This:
If you feel you are getting really good at this, attack some prominent feminists for not being feminist enough. I don’t even know what that would mean, but, hey, this is feminism.
pretty much sums up why this idea will fail. If you’re not even going to bother to find out what feminism means, you’re not going to make a very convincing fake feminist.
I mean, trolls already try this on Manboobz from time to time. They come on all, “Hey, I sure hope men die except the alphas who want us for their harems, Cosmo Magazine Sex and the City amirite girls?” and everyone just stares. I would love it if one of these goofballs tried to start an entire fake feminist site, but frankly they’re probably too lazy.
Unless… the entire MRA movement is a prank? That would make me feel so much better about humans.
OZY – thankyou! Now it’s perfect! Brava!
Has this guy never seen a Bond movie? You don’t reveal your insidious plan before you’ve actually done anything.
Zhinxy: I’m proud of that one. Racism, classism, sexism AND fatphobia! If only I’d figured out a way to work in ableism…
Feminists are evil! So evil we must form a movement to fight them!
But not so evil that we can convince sane people that feminists are evil, so we must impersonate them on the Internet!
Impersonating feminists on the Internet is an invaluable use of our time and resources! Nothing we could do would be more helpful to men than this!
…There’s something not quite right about this plan…I can’t put my finger on it…