Over on the always repugnant In Mala Fide, a guest blogger by the name of What is To Be Done recently offered his comrades in the “anti-establishment / man/ biorealist / HBD/ reactionary / racist / patriarch / tradcon / whatever blogosphere” what he evidently sees as a revolutionary suggestion: instead of trying to fight the evil feminists with “well-reasoned arguments,” why not simply set up fake feminist blogs, and post shit on them to make feminists looks bad?
WITBD explained:
On the Internet, nobody knows you’re a saboteur. We are naturally smarter than the feminists (in fact, objectively better in every conceivable way), and in addition, we are well-trained in deception by our studies of game. In other words, it’ll be a piece of cake for us to mimic their arguments and appear to them as really smart girls who really know their shit.
Really? Because no one I’ve ever run across in the manosphere has managed to pull off a particularly convincing impersonation of a really smart anything. And in order to effectively parody something, you have to actually understand it first. Given some of the truly odd things MRAs and manospherians believe about feminism and feminists – see my post on Operation Alimony yesterday for one recent example — I’m somehow thinking that the only people dumb enough to be fooled by these “false-flag-feminist” blogs will be other, yep, MRAs and manosphereians.
Nonetheless, WITBD claimed that’s he’s already started putting his little plan into action:
I have already begun false flag blogging myself. At this stage, giving the link would ruin the whole thing. But it’s out there. And “false flag blogging” returned only 87 results, of which only a few actually seemed to discuss what I’m talking about, so for the time being it seems nobody is watching out for it. Not that they’d be able to tell anyway.
His fantasies got more and more extravagant:
Think long term. The endgame is to build a big enough presence that coming out as a fake feminist generates buzz in and of itself. Imagine if it came out that the founder of Feministing was actually a men’s rights activist.
And that he could fly, and shoot lasers from his eyes! Imagination is fun!
(Note: The founder of Feministing is not actually an MRA, or a man. Nor can she fly or shoot lasers from her eyes.)
WITBD continued fantasizing:
Eventually, our false flag bloggers will coordinate with our legitimate bloggers and have “debates” where both sides are controlled by us.
And where the only people paying attention are you guys.
If you feel you are getting really good at this, attack some prominent feminists for not being feminist enough. I don’t even know what that would mean, but, hey, this is feminism. Nonsense is our bread and butter.
Wheels within wheels!
Some on In Mala Fide thought this was a dandy idea. Frost wrote:
Fuck yeah. Awesome post. …
[W]e need to get bold and creative with how we fight the war for the best minds in the western world. False flag blogging is a wide-open front. Especially if you’re new to writing and aren’t yet confident in your voice – and unless you have written many thousands of words already, the truth is your writing is probably going to suck – a false-flag blog would be a great way to hone your skills while only having to actually write at the level of typical mid-twenties gender studies grad student.
Here’s a post of mine that sadly didn’t get a lot of attention, but it’s one of my own personal favourites:
http://www.freedomtwentyfive.com/2011/08/an-open-letter-to-the-manginas-of-the-internet/
I submitted it to The Good Men project, Manboobz, and a few other Mangina sites as a guest post, but sadly no one bit. These people are just so easy to parody, it’s ridiculous.
Regular Man Boobz readers may have a rather different assessment of how effective his parody was.
Others on In Mala Fide were a bit more skeptical of the “false-flag” idea. As out-and-proud racist thwak put it:
It sounds like a good idea, but it won’t work. Its been tried by white people on counter racism forums and they always got busted. We used to call it the “nigger impersonation syndrome”.
A white person would sign up with a name like “Jamal” and speak ebonics… but they always got busted cause at some point they hafta come out of “nigger cloak” to practice racism; i.e, say and/or do something a black person would not say/do.
Sure, they have the option of coming on the discussion board and pretending to be a full time nigger, but how does that advance the racist agenda? …
The “black White Supremacist” stuck out like a nun in a whore house everytime.
And got busted everytime.
Gosh, it’s almost as if black people are actual human beings and not just racist caricatures. And that real black people can somehow magically spot the difference between other real black people and racist assholes posting in “ebonics.”
Huh. Could the same happen with feminists?
In a followup post, WITBD dismissed the critics as uncreative cowards. And it turns out that fake blogs are only the starting point in his grand plan.
The fact is we are not the alt-right. We are the new left. We are the oppressed proles … They are the establishment. We lost “our” country. They control it all now. We have blogs. And a handful of churches and seasteading. Sucks.
Now it’s time to move on. We have to take these pieces of shit down and that means we must use leftist tactics. This kind of blogging operation is the beginning of a long march to infiltrate and undermine their institutions.
Sounds like someone has been reading Mao’s Little Red Book!
Playing around? Real men fight to win, period. We fight feminism specifically because it’s the weak point of liberalism. Read your Sun Tzu. Attacking the entire rainbow coalition at once is madness. You always attack the enemy where he is weakest.
And the weakest links are the ladies, naturally.
[N]ot all women actually benefit from feminism. They may think they win at first, but we know full well that feminist sex and the city-type women lose big time: no kids, no committed alpha, no nothing. Most women don’t benefit, and many women are recognizing this.
Right now among women, feminism is high status and actually being feminine is low status. But all women instinctively want to actually be feminine, and they have better life results when they do. We all know about how to manipulate women’s idea of status. This should be easy to work out.
If we take out or marginally disrupt feminism, and pull lots of white women out of the coalition, it crumbles in short order.
Oh no! Not the white women! Don’t take the white women!
High-IQ thundercunts are major war engines of the regime, and especially the childless ones. They actually run the agencies, corporations, HR departments, universities, etc. Without them, the enemy has a harder time operating. As well, white women are blatantly used as bait to recruit minority men into liberal groups.
Anti-feminism is something that we know well … and it is something that the other elements of the liberal coalition actually somewhat agree with us on because its not like the blacks, Mexicans, Arabs etc. are keen on empowering their women. All men of all races have common ground in dealing with the unique female brand of bullshit and thus are potential sympathizers on this issue.
So this is his grand plan: for racist white dudes like him (and much of In Mala Fide’s readership) to build a sort of antifeminist rainbow coalition with “blacks, Mexicans, Arabs, etc” … in order to take down feminism … in order to weaken liberalism … in order to screw over the “blacks, Mexicans, Arabs, etc.”
Yeah, that’s totally gonna work.
“Sticks and stones can break your bones, but words will never hurt you.”
This is the most idiotic phrase humanity has ever concocted.
You know, funny as this blog thingy is with its article about “women who want to be men” and the absolute hilarity of…
“Look at yourself in the mirror, think of how your male equal would be like, and think really hard if you deserve a high status man. If not, then realize that wanting someone better than you is arrogant and entitled, and at the same time selfish, as you think it’s ok that this high status person should be stuck with someone lowly like you.”
(Depending on how you invert gender characteristics, and aside from the answer “return this”, the conclusion that I would have to make from this suggestion is that I need to be dating up a fair bit as far as the usual metrics of “status” go.)
… I do have to note that this is a topic about *fake blogs*.
Nah. There’s still “Women faint at the sight of blood”.
Yeah, someone really didn’t think that one through . . .
“It’s all very well to say ‘you fool! it’s now or never!’
I could be choosing…no choices whatsoever…”
In short, I see pressure as anything less than threats and physical harm. I certainly don’t count “society expecting women to be homemakers” to be threats or physical harm. I certainly feel no such pressure. Neither did mom, or even my granma as far as I know. It seems there is as much pressure to have a big career (a pressure I HAVE felt, by the way) as much as to be a homemaker.
“This is the most idiotic phrase humanity has ever concocted.”
I suppose I should add “on the internet” to the end of that phrase. Words can hurt, but not when they are coming from perfect strangers.
“And I don’t know if anyone’s addressed this, but you had said that room and board were adequate pay for housespouses, and that the working person wouldn’t support a nanny or a cook. Actually, the working person, if they hired a nanny or a cook, would in fact support them. If they hired their support staff legally, they would be expected to pay at least minimum wage, and, for highly qualified help, it would certainly be at least a living wage. Room, board, and occasional pocket money is not usually considered adequate pay for people who are past the interning stage of their careers”
Not a bad point there. You might even be right, that keeping a wife is cheaper that way. However, she can still inherit your stuff, while those workers can’t. But thanks 🙂
Gah, by the time I got all caught up, it’s bed time. Have fun nomming on the new chewtoy ya’ll!
Sticks and stones can break your bones, but words will never hurt you
Sounds like someone’s never been bullied in her life. Lucky you. However, that is some serious bullshit on Planet Reality.
You know what, Emma? The conversation about marriage as a bargain has been had before, many times, so I have no interest in rehashing that again. What I would be interested in is seeing you attempt to defend your post about “hypergamy”. Why do you believe that women are “hypergamous”, and why do you think this is a bad thing? If being that way is working out fine for the woman in question in the sense that she’s able to have relationships that she’s happy about and it’s not affecting her life in a negative way, why should she try to change it? What’s her motivation?
“I suppose I should add “on the internet” to the end of that phrase. Words can hurt, but not when they are coming from perfect strangers.”
No.
Emma, this is a misogyny mocking community. We make fun of misogynists here; it’s a lot of snark, not really a lot of education. You may be looking for a feminism 101 blog such as Finally A Feminism 101 Blog, where they will be happy to take your questions.
NWO, I think little girls and little boys should play with trucks and dolls. Why is that so difficult to understand? o.O
Judging by your blog posts, I highly doubt you’ll agree with anyone here. You believe in hypergamy for fucks sake. Yes because society is just overflowing with women who are only dating and marrying CEOs, athletes and movie stars. Tell me, do you ever speak out against the ugly slobs who demand a woman look like Megan Fox? because plenty of men do when they’ve got absolutely nothing to offer in the looks or personality department. In fact in my experience, the men who shout the loudest about ugly women below them tend to be pretty ugly themselves, inside and out. This is why most people date within their socioeconomic level. And hey, you wanna know why women were pushed to marry up in the past? because it was not acceptable for them to get an education and work in order to take care of themselves. If from day one women were expected to work and support themselves like men, this hypergamy bullshit would never have existed. But how about blaming the powerful MEN (patriarchy) who enforced these systems and left us all to deal with the leftover bullshit today which ironically MRAs try to blame feminists for. How does that make logical sense when it was feminists and women who WANTED and DO to work and support themselves or aid in supporting their families money-wise?
And yeah, words do hurt. Once or twice or even ten times maybe not, but if they are hurled at you every single day? I’m sure you’d really enjoy being called a filthy cunt everyday, maybe you ought to hang out on his blog more often then come back to me with the sticks and stones thing.
Yes. And most women do choose other options like working. MRAs have a name for those women- lawyercunts and career bitches. Job thieves from their rightful white male overlords.
Stay at home moms who choose that lifestyle with their husbands need to be compensated for the work they do if alimony is to be scrapped altogether because it’s not fair for a woman to just be rendered homeless if a divorce occurred and she now has a gap in her resume and little to no money.
Oh, I see it now! Being a housewife is great as long as your husband dies first! It all balances out! 😛
Yo, Emma. I am going to try being charitable to you, here. If you are genuinely interested in learning stuff about feminism, here is a good place to start:
http://finallyfeminism101.wordpress.com/
It has a lot of questions that people who are not used to feminist stuff ask as beginners. You should ping around there for a while. This is their list of frequently asked questions:
http://finallyfeminism101.wordpress.com/the-faqs/faq-roundup/
I am not sure you will look at any of this, but it takes me like one minute to type this up, so why the hell not.
one of the most obnoxious and contradicting MRA arguments ever:
Hypergamous sluts! all they wants is men’s alpha FUCKmoney. Hey look at that so called “empowered” lawyer cunt career bitch! I bet she only got that job through affirmative action, a woman’s place is in the home making me a sammich, amiright fellas?
Its probably been covered on MRA Marmoset already.
Niki,
“Sounds like someone’s never been bullied in her life.”
Of course i have been 🙂 Especially by adults when I was a kid. Words can sure hurt, but when I grew up, strangers’ opinions on me no longer matter to me.
Btw, I don’t really believe in the law of attraction, it was a joke. The post about toning down hypergamy was created because some girls I know really wanted to tone down theirs, so I wrote it. I didn’t say anywere that I think all women are hypergamous. Some are (they admitted it), and had trouble finding someone who is good enough for them. If you happen to be hypergamous and it’s working fine for you, then you have no motivation to change it. But if men your league make you puke for being boring or not hot enough, but you still want a family, then you might want to lower your standards a little bit and fall in love with a guy who is kind, but not up to your former standards. For your own sake, by your own choice. I don’t know if my advice is any good (might be unusable, if people’s tendencies are so strong), but you don’t have to use it and I warned about its potential ill effects.
The advice that you look at yourself in the mirror might not work for everyone, but it’s a good rule of thumb.
random6x7,
your thoughts on how free our choices are are pretty good. I guess I kinda make a distinction between true freedom of choice and responsibility. The last one we have to have for society to work, but the former can be said to be 100% unfree or any other percentage except zero, since we’re all fundamentally governed by hormoned and chemicals, even if you remove culture somehow. I only have a problem with the idea that people have no responsibility for their decisions when there is “pressure”.
“Have fun nomming on the new chewtoy”
Thanks
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Poor marmoset. To be associated with creatures as disgusting as MRAs. No animal deserves that.
Well, god, if only we thought of growing up.
Did we ever find an animal loathesome enough to be a symbol for MRAs?
I really hate worms, so that would be my suggestion. Either that or maggots.
I don’t even know where to start with this except maybe if all the people you know make you want to “puke” with boredom… get new friends?
The entire hypergamy concept seems to have been created to both describe and mollify people who’re about 14.
@Cassandra: Botflies?
I wanna give that marmoset a good snorgle. Poor dearie.
I’d say maggots. Worms are kinda cute in their own gross way. But even maggots have an actual useful purpose. Eating away at corpses 😀