Over on the always repugnant In Mala Fide, a guest blogger by the name of What is To Be Done recently offered his comrades in the “anti-establishment / man/ biorealist / HBD/ reactionary / racist / patriarch / tradcon / whatever blogosphere” what he evidently sees as a revolutionary suggestion: instead of trying to fight the evil feminists with “well-reasoned arguments,” why not simply set up fake feminist blogs, and post shit on them to make feminists looks bad?
WITBD explained:
On the Internet, nobody knows you’re a saboteur. We are naturally smarter than the feminists (in fact, objectively better in every conceivable way), and in addition, we are well-trained in deception by our studies of game. In other words, it’ll be a piece of cake for us to mimic their arguments and appear to them as really smart girls who really know their shit.
Really? Because no one I’ve ever run across in the manosphere has managed to pull off a particularly convincing impersonation of a really smart anything. And in order to effectively parody something, you have to actually understand it first. Given some of the truly odd things MRAs and manospherians believe about feminism and feminists – see my post on Operation Alimony yesterday for one recent example — I’m somehow thinking that the only people dumb enough to be fooled by these “false-flag-feminist” blogs will be other, yep, MRAs and manosphereians.
Nonetheless, WITBD claimed that’s he’s already started putting his little plan into action:
I have already begun false flag blogging myself. At this stage, giving the link would ruin the whole thing. But it’s out there. And “false flag blogging” returned only 87 results, of which only a few actually seemed to discuss what I’m talking about, so for the time being it seems nobody is watching out for it. Not that they’d be able to tell anyway.
His fantasies got more and more extravagant:
Think long term. The endgame is to build a big enough presence that coming out as a fake feminist generates buzz in and of itself. Imagine if it came out that the founder of Feministing was actually a men’s rights activist.
And that he could fly, and shoot lasers from his eyes! Imagination is fun!
(Note: The founder of Feministing is not actually an MRA, or a man. Nor can she fly or shoot lasers from her eyes.)
WITBD continued fantasizing:
Eventually, our false flag bloggers will coordinate with our legitimate bloggers and have “debates” where both sides are controlled by us.
And where the only people paying attention are you guys.
If you feel you are getting really good at this, attack some prominent feminists for not being feminist enough. I don’t even know what that would mean, but, hey, this is feminism. Nonsense is our bread and butter.
Wheels within wheels!
Some on In Mala Fide thought this was a dandy idea. Frost wrote:
Fuck yeah. Awesome post. …
[W]e need to get bold and creative with how we fight the war for the best minds in the western world. False flag blogging is a wide-open front. Especially if you’re new to writing and aren’t yet confident in your voice – and unless you have written many thousands of words already, the truth is your writing is probably going to suck – a false-flag blog would be a great way to hone your skills while only having to actually write at the level of typical mid-twenties gender studies grad student.
Here’s a post of mine that sadly didn’t get a lot of attention, but it’s one of my own personal favourites:
http://www.freedomtwentyfive.com/2011/08/an-open-letter-to-the-manginas-of-the-internet/
I submitted it to The Good Men project, Manboobz, and a few other Mangina sites as a guest post, but sadly no one bit. These people are just so easy to parody, it’s ridiculous.
Regular Man Boobz readers may have a rather different assessment of how effective his parody was.
Others on In Mala Fide were a bit more skeptical of the “false-flag” idea. As out-and-proud racist thwak put it:
It sounds like a good idea, but it won’t work. Its been tried by white people on counter racism forums and they always got busted. We used to call it the “nigger impersonation syndrome”.
A white person would sign up with a name like “Jamal” and speak ebonics… but they always got busted cause at some point they hafta come out of “nigger cloak” to practice racism; i.e, say and/or do something a black person would not say/do.
Sure, they have the option of coming on the discussion board and pretending to be a full time nigger, but how does that advance the racist agenda? …
The “black White Supremacist” stuck out like a nun in a whore house everytime.
And got busted everytime.
Gosh, it’s almost as if black people are actual human beings and not just racist caricatures. And that real black people can somehow magically spot the difference between other real black people and racist assholes posting in “ebonics.”
Huh. Could the same happen with feminists?
In a followup post, WITBD dismissed the critics as uncreative cowards. And it turns out that fake blogs are only the starting point in his grand plan.
The fact is we are not the alt-right. We are the new left. We are the oppressed proles … They are the establishment. We lost “our” country. They control it all now. We have blogs. And a handful of churches and seasteading. Sucks.
Now it’s time to move on. We have to take these pieces of shit down and that means we must use leftist tactics. This kind of blogging operation is the beginning of a long march to infiltrate and undermine their institutions.
Sounds like someone has been reading Mao’s Little Red Book!
Playing around? Real men fight to win, period. We fight feminism specifically because it’s the weak point of liberalism. Read your Sun Tzu. Attacking the entire rainbow coalition at once is madness. You always attack the enemy where he is weakest.
And the weakest links are the ladies, naturally.
[N]ot all women actually benefit from feminism. They may think they win at first, but we know full well that feminist sex and the city-type women lose big time: no kids, no committed alpha, no nothing. Most women don’t benefit, and many women are recognizing this.
Right now among women, feminism is high status and actually being feminine is low status. But all women instinctively want to actually be feminine, and they have better life results when they do. We all know about how to manipulate women’s idea of status. This should be easy to work out.
If we take out or marginally disrupt feminism, and pull lots of white women out of the coalition, it crumbles in short order.
Oh no! Not the white women! Don’t take the white women!
High-IQ thundercunts are major war engines of the regime, and especially the childless ones. They actually run the agencies, corporations, HR departments, universities, etc. Without them, the enemy has a harder time operating. As well, white women are blatantly used as bait to recruit minority men into liberal groups.
Anti-feminism is something that we know well … and it is something that the other elements of the liberal coalition actually somewhat agree with us on because its not like the blacks, Mexicans, Arabs etc. are keen on empowering their women. All men of all races have common ground in dealing with the unique female brand of bullshit and thus are potential sympathizers on this issue.
So this is his grand plan: for racist white dudes like him (and much of In Mala Fide’s readership) to build a sort of antifeminist rainbow coalition with “blacks, Mexicans, Arabs, etc” … in order to take down feminism … in order to weaken liberalism … in order to screw over the “blacks, Mexicans, Arabs, etc.”
Yeah, that’s totally gonna work.
I certainly can’t see any flaws in that plan whatsoever.
Frankly, David, you might as well shut your blog down now.
If feminists are so evil, why do they need to lie to make us look bad?
This is one of those “I really can’t tell if they believe themselves” moments.
“[N]ot all women actually benefit from feminism. They may think they win at first, but we know full well that feminist sex and the city-type women lose big time: no kids, no committed alpha, no nothing. Most women don’t benefit, and many women are recognizing this…
We all know about how to manipulate women’s idea of status. This should be easy to work out.”
These men are EVIL! They’re basically trying to manipulate us the way men always have: By saying that if we don’t conform to what they want and submit to them, then they won’t love us. Well FUCK THEM! That’s not love anyway! We need their “love”! We love ourselves! We each other! They’re nothing but bullshit that we don’t need! Long live the sisterhood! Down with the patriarchy! (That’s why lesbianism is so threatening to them. They want to hold an emotional gun to our heads that says if we don’t submit, then we won’t be loved. Fuck them. FUCK THEM.)
So they’ve given up any and all pretence that their ideas can stand up on their own without needing dodgy tricks to prop them up?
Well isn’t that nice of them?
Thundercunt
Thundercunt
THUNDERCUNT
Tolkien was wrong. “Cellar door” just cannot compare with that combination.
Isn’t “What Is To Be Done” a reference to one of those intentionally bad Half Life fanfics?
Any time you have to announce how smart you are it ends badly.
The racist shitbag commenter is right though, these trolls always give themselves away eventually. There is no way they could maintain a false front.
Right. I don’t NEED to start a men’s rights activist blog to make the MRAs look bad! They seem to be doing just fine all by themselves.
Also, if Twisty Faster and that Die Cis Scum guy on Tumblr haven’t destroyed feminism yet, I’m pretty sure the MRM’s faux-feminists won’t either.
Alsoalso, Frost’s parody was quite good until halfway through (the “modest proposal” bit). Uuurgh, dude, stick the landing!
“High IQ Thundercunt” would be a great band name.
(pssst…everyone…Boadie is the mole. Just a heads-up.)
Hey, let’s all set up fake MRM websites to make the MRAs look bad! We can write articles about how women’s suffrage has led to the downfall of the West and hold fundraisers to promote terrorist acts against feminists!
Oh wait…
Funny, their scheming reminds me of this article I read the other day… http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/06/20/the-anosognosics-dilemma-1/
So, “Sex and the City”. Why do these idiots bring up “Sex and the City” as though it were an essential text of feminism?
Oh, it’s because “feminism” = “anything women like that I don’t”.
Thanks for the heads-up, though, David. I’ll make sure not to blindly agree with anyone calling themselves a feminist.
…You know, the way I always did before.
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Beware the High-IQ Thundercunt, for she shall come down on you with great intelligence, and furiously coherent arguments, and you shall know that she is a feminazi on her neutering way!!!!
Well then, totally cocked that up. the post was:
“Wheels within wheels!”
But clearly the hamsters are all out to lunch
“We lost “our” country. They control it all now. We have blogs.”
I died
“High-IQ Thundercunt”
Beware the High-IQ Thundercunt, for she shall come down on you with great intelligence, and furiously coherent arguments, and you shall know that she is a feminazi on her neutering way!!!!
I can’t help but think WITBD is a “false flag” MRA, but that may just be Poe’s Law in action.
@Holly
But how will you distinguish one echo from another?!!! Doomed, all doomed!!
I especially liked the dig at grad student’s writing ability. It’s like they have no idea what being a grad student is about.
Crumbelievable- You bring up a point. If they wanted to discredit feminism, they shouldn’t use sockpuppetry that will do nothing but backfire.The best way to do it would be to start up a Manboobz type blog. “Women’s Equality- I Mock It.”
What would a Bizarro Manboobz blog be called? “Axewoundz?”
Nevermind! Answered my own question! It should be called “THUNDERCUNTZ”.
OH GOD I HOPE THIS TAKES OFF I CANNOT WAIT FOR THE FAKE FEMINIST BLOGS! And the fake feminist blogs linking to each other, and commenting on each other, and… OH PLEASE OH PLEASE OH PLEASE.
@Shadow, I read your Thundercunt bit in the voice of Samuel L Jackson in Pulp Fiction (“and furrriously coherent arguments”).
“We are naturally smarter than the feminists (in fact, objectively better in every conceivable way).” That will never not be funny. They’re so objectively better and smarter in every conceivable way that they have lost all of the country’s institutions (except the blogs). For incompetent ninnies, we run awfully good conspiracies.
Ozy, of all the blogging RadFems With a Capital RADFEM, I actually have respect for Twisty, in a bizarro “best of my foes” way. She’s no femonade or dirtywhiteboi, at least. Still batshit and toxic, but, I dunno, it’s like I have favorite conservatives. Same deal.
Now, the sheer gall of her being an upperclass richy living off daddy’s money on her ranch with a jillion horses and such and pontificating bout the revolution, well… Again, I said I have favorite conservatives.