Uh oh! I just discovered this, currently the top story over on the Men’s Rights subreddit:
Yes, my sisters (and honorary mangina man-sisters), Russell Brand has dealt a severe blow to Operation Alimony, which (as you well know, at least if you’ve been attending the meetings) is our dastardly Feminazi plot to destroy the patriarchy by getting pretty ladies to marry and divorce rich dudes and take all their money.
You may remember our wild revelry when we heard that comrade-ess Heather Mills had walked off (no jokes please) with £24.3 million of Paul McCartney’s man money. And the joyful tears we shed when we heard that Mel Gibson’s ex-wife had (reportedly) scored a cool $425 million in her divorce settlement.
But today, we shed only the bitterest of tears. We have not only been thwarted, but we’ve also been exposed! Damn those Men’s Rights Redditors and their evil allies at the Daily Mail!
The comments in the r/mensrights thread show that they understand our evil plans all too well. How can we respond to Aetheralloy’s withering critique?
Feminists see the absurdity of their own pushed polices?
LOL no. No they won’t. I’d sooner expect scientologists to ask their psychiatrist if they are in a cult.
But ladies! Do not despair! Russell Brand may have set back our efforts, but he, and his Reddit allies, shall not defeat us!
Ladies, you know what to do. Get yourself all prettied up, hit the town, and snag yourself some rich dudes! Let’s see how many of these guys we can have married off by the end of the year.
Marrying (and divorcing) rich dudes: it’s the feminist way!
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Strangely, I do not feel compelled to use my vagina to help you, MRAL. But maybe my words will: as far as I’m concerned, the sexiest man in the world is 5’8″, slightly cross-eyed, and has many more wrinkles than I do.
Actually, on that note, @everyone, I have been informed (in jest – I think) that the only reason to date someone so far out of my peer group is for gold-digging purposes, but unfortunately my man isn’t extremely wealthy. So, I’ve decided to use him as a jumping-off point, latching on to his most affluent and oldest aquaintance. Then, I will repeat these steps with my new beau, until I have finally traded up to the mother load.
Yeah, but all the criticisms of Katy Perry are coming from women. I have nothing bad to say about Katy Perry’s appearance, in fact I have many good things to say about that.
Also, you’re doing that thing where women are held to a higher standard than men again. Brand is good looking, but objectively speaking Perry is better looking than he is. I find him sexier, because she acts like a child, but if you were to be really cold and rank them by looks, she’s prettier than he is. And nobody is required to regard either of them with awe just because you think they’re hot.
MRAL, assigning people numbers on the attractiveness scale is rather old hat. (Didn’t that go out of fashion not long after the movie ’10’ was released? Some 30 years ago?) Plus, attractiveness is very subjective. You could ask 10 people who they find attractive and get 10 different answers. I don’t find Russell Brand attractive. That’s just my personal opinion. And opinions aren’t facts, just someone’s personal preference.
I’m not saying that marriage should be based on looks. But Perry is one of the hottest women IN THE WORLD, and so, I was kind of joking.
Yeah, but all the criticisms of Katy Perry are coming from women.
That’s news to me.
Also, I appreciate the boobs because I’m bi, but why should straight women give a shit if she’s “like Deschanel but with bigger boobs”?
to you.
As far as Zooey Deschanel, I think she’s really cute and sexy, and she seems like just my man’s type, so I made a comment to him about her. He said “I actually find her kind of ugly.” Clearly no one has informed him of the world-wide and objective ranking of women’s looks.
Delurking for a bit, if that’s ok. MRAL, I’m interested in your comment about “elitist drivel.” I get the impression that you think that, with Brand being an 8, the people saying “meh, not hot” are basically saying “an 8 isn’t good enough for me. I insist on 9s or 10s!” Am I correct in that interpretation?
Because when I say “meh, not hot,” what I mean is “I do not believe he is an 8.” Do you see the difference there?
Also, Cassandra, I think you were the person who said you only date or care about super hot men, so, whatever dude.
Oh no, is this going to be one of those threads where everyone has to post lists of all the guys they find attractive so Mr. Al can see that not every single woman in the world only finds super double mega alpha alphas attractive? Or is it a thread where everyone has to talk about how insecure they are? I can’t tell yet, but I’ll start working on my lists, just in case. BRB
Temping as it is follow along here, I really need to get going.
I imagine your sneer as a man below your consideration brushes by and touches your robes.
Bee, I think this is gonna be one of those threads.
But for the record, MRAL, everyone finds different people hot, and everyone is allowed to only date people they find hot.
MRAL, who are you addressing, exactly?
I’m gonna ask you to take a moment and take a deep breath, go look at some youtube videos of kittens, and THEN come back here. The bitterness in unbecoming and you are backsliding a bit. Most of us here (including myself) want to support you, but we lose patience when you start talking like that.
One quick note, before I go: Hey MRAL? Y’know that “being an asshole” thing? You’re doing it again.
You know what? I’ve been patient with you lately, MRAL, but in this case you deserve to be smacked down.
By your own system, it should be assumed that people will tend to try to date the hottest people that they can. If I can date super hot men, why would I date men who’re not hot? After all, look at your attitude towards Perry. If you get to have a preference for women who’re objectively gorgeous, why shouldn’t women act the same way? The only real distinction is whether or not a person can actually get away with acting on those preferences in real life, and again, according to your own value system, if you’re objectively unattractive then there’s no reason you should have all that many options.
Now if you want to be a bit kinder and gentler about looks yourself and not rank women by numbers then maybe you’d have some moral high ground to stand on in this sort of situation, but you don’t, and therefore you need to STFU and accept the consequences of the ranking system that you yourself fully support when it’s being applied to women.
Elitist? You mean like banging him like a screen door in a hurricane? Soooo elitist!
I would too, but I’d probably give him a 9. He’s a damn good looking guy, but I like the scruff. Some people like a more clean cut look, what are you gonna do? That alone is probably enough to knock him down a few ranks for some people.
Gets a 10 😀
But again, that’s not solely on looks. He has an unusual face, and I’m not sure I’d like it on a person that didn’t have his personality and style.
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Also, I don’t feel bad for Katy Perry either. She probably won’t even notice losing the money. And if Brand gets 20 million, well, good for him I guess. Maybe someone else can marry and divorce him a get themselves a few too. Trickle-down economics: it really works!
Ok, so I could have the moral high ground here? Cause while I can appreciate Perry as a pinnacle of female beauty, it doesn’t mean I’ll have any problem dating/caring about/associating with/etc. less attractive people (women, in my case).
The alpha beta whatever thing is crap, but there is a vague level of attractiveness that the majority agree on, for the most part. But some will still give those who aren’t near the top the time of day, and some won’t. I don’t know.
Who is this Noel Fielding person? Enquiring minds want to know.
My personal objection to Brand is that he’s very very hairy, which I don’t like. Oh noes, discrimination and hypergamy! I’m sure poor Russell is just heartbroken and crying into a pint of ice cream as we speak.
Okay, it’s list time. I am a heterosexual woman, and I think that Charlize Theron is the most beautiful woman in “show biz,” as it were.
As for men, I prefer the suave yet non-arrogant types, like Hugh Jackman, Pierce Brosnan and Jon Hamm. I also always had huge crushes on the “old-timers,” like the guy who played the dad on the TV show “Flipper” (what a gorgeous hunk!) and David what’s-his-name who played the younger officer on “Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea.”
As a card-carrying connoisseur of fine men, I don’t think that Russell Brand is all that. But that’s just my opinion.
OK, so, Mr. Al, there is no way Russell Brand would ever lower himself to touch my robe, and I’m ok with that. That said, I still don’t find him attractive. If I did find him attractive, you’d almost certainly accuse me of alpha-seeking hypergamy.
Famous guys I have crushes on include Mike White and Cliff Curtis. I don’t know why. I have awful taste in men, probably But they both have nice eyes. I’m dating a man who’s shorter than Mr. Al, who has awful teeth, and is very cuddly. For the gazillionth time, Mr. Al, just because a woman doesn’t find a Famous Handsome Man attractive doesn’t mean she’s holding out for someone even more handsome.
Why would that give you the moral high ground here, Mr. Al? I think that’s kind of … normal. When you add the anger towards women who dare say they’re not attracted to (random male celebrity), it becomes not normal, slipping into bad bad bad.
MRAL, perhaps you should take a break from the site. If your whole about face was just cover so you don’t get called out for assholishness, it’s not working.
I imagine your sneer as a man below your consideration brushes by and touches your robes.
…well, so long as you know that this is just a thing you imagine, and not based on anything resembling reality.
Maybe I’m just in a terrible mood today, but I’m fresh out of compassion for MRAL. I know you’re striking out from a place of pain, and I do not care. Your pain does not make it okay to attack other people.
Cassandra has said she has strong physical preferences for the men she dates and has sex with – preferences which, correct me if I’m wrong Cassandra, probably don’t match your vision of “super hot men,” MRAL – but I’m pretty sure she never said that she therefore doesn’t care about men she’s not attracted to.