Oh boy. Over on The Spearhead, the good old trusty Spearhead, a fella called Rmaxd has some bold new ideas to share with the world.
Well, they’re not really new, or bold, or true, and some of them kind of seem to contradict each other. But they are, indisputably, ideas. And because he’s a dude, they’re automatically good, because dudes are the dynamic, creative force behind all historical progress. So it’s no wonder this comment of his got more than two dozen upvotes.
Rmaxd starts off by addressing the manginas of the world, and every man who might be considering the benefits of manginahood:
Grow some balls, be masculine, & these so called feminists have zero power
Because NATURE.
We always revert to our biology & nature, over idealism, this is why feminism is dead in the water
And NATURE says women should stay home and cook and pop out babies.
Women in our society are so fucked up, precisely because they rejected their biological need to be part of a society, through their children, husbands & a family
It’s time for a little thought experiment.
Imagine if men were no longer engineers & soldiers & scientists, imagine the biological havoc they would cause on society, all that intellectual brilliance channelled on society, on the loss of their biological roles, instead of as engineers, soldiers & scientists
I’m having a little bit of a hard time imagining, because that doesn’t make any fucking sense. Is he suggesting that the world would collapse if more dudes stayed home and tended the kids?
But never mind, because Rmaxd is on to his next point, which is that women are terrible at math and this makes them OBSOLETE!
In a technology based society, women are the first to be discarded, their lack of scientific & mathematical skills are a liability to our technological culture
Also, they’re lazy and don’t invent shit. Even though by keeping them at home and denying them education the men of the world gave them ample opportunity to invent all sorts of shit, they chose instead to sit on their fat asses and eat bon bons.
Women have in fact been stayathome moms for centuries, theyve NEVER had to work for centuries, they have now had centuries of shelter & protection from corporations, theyve had massive amounts of leisure, in fact more leisure then most working males through out history
& what did women do with that leisure, with all that time & opportunity to progress science?
Women became biological luddites, they became entitled, inbred & backwards & technologically liabilities in our present technologically based age
When women should’ve been developing technologies to makeup for their inability to logic & reason, in the same way men developed music & art in order for men to experience emotions, all they did was call for young men to destroying their own futures, to be used as walking wallets & chattle
You can tell how innovative Rmaxd is, because he’s totally just innovated a new way to spell “chattel.”
Anyway, QED, fuck women.
Women are liabilities, we no longer need women to maintain our social networks, we have everything from mobile phones to the internet
Huh. Declaring half of humanity expendable. I was under the impression that MRA dudes considered that sort of thinking to be the equivalent of committing GENOCIDE. Seems some of them were making a big stink about that the other day, when a couple of ladies made some similar remarks about men.
Weird. Because MRA dudes are upvoting this, instead of gathering together in angry mobs on the internet to EXPOSE this dude’s personal information and talk about Fucking His Shit Up.
Never mind, though, because Rmaxd isn’t done with his case against ladies.
We no longer need them to maintain morality, as theyre incapable of morality, a womans ability to destroy herself, in the same fat women destroy their own bodies, is unprecedented, give a woman enough leisure & freetime, & all she’s capable of is how to enslave all of society, to ensure society does the same for women everywhere, irrespective of the results
Damn. So women getting fat is part of a sinister plot to enslave mankind?
This all sounds pretty dire for us civilization-creating dudes.
Happily, as Rmaxd explains in another comment, the ladies are so crazily self-destructive that they will fail in their evil designs, despite “being bankrolled by the rich upper class.” Just like the evil radical blacks back in the 1970s:
[W]omen are following the black activism handbook of the 70′s. …
[N]ear the end of the black movement, as the more mainstream, publicly accepted part of black militancy was rejected & debunked, the more radical components of the movement, began attacking its own supporters, in particular the white supporters of black rights, & they also started attacking blacks who were sympathetic to white males
We see the exact same thing happening with feminism, as the more popular & acceptable parts of feminism have now been rejected by popular culture, ie the colossal failure of stayathome dads
Because nothing is more evil and against NATURE than stay-at-home dads! It’s like sodomy squared.
Anyway, the evil ladies are doomed.
They now start becoming more radical, their antagonism & alienation of men, especially manginas & feminists will inevitably destroy them
As we all know women & especially special rights movements, are always self destructive, as the solutions are never radical enough.
So back to the homes, ladies, where you can return to fulfilling NATURE’s role for the females of the species: sitting on your fat asses and eating bon bons and being terrible at math. Because that is nature’s way.
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“Not exactly, until airplanes are as inexpensive to buy and can be parked easily at home they aren’t really flying cars. Ultralights come close but they make Ford Pintos look safe.”
Well there are personal planes. When you strip away the wings and propellers you get something roughly car sized. Unfortunately all that stuff is needed to get the thing off the ground. To mention the serious fuel that’s required.
Anti-feminists agenda is to twist things around and make it seem like everything is just fine and dandy and women have it so great and everything is equal or more equal because they want to keep their privilege in tact so that only male voices are heard.
But then you have incidents like yesterday’s Reddit debacle where a 15 year old was sent rape threats and had demeaning sexual comments aimed at her because she dared to show her face while holding up a book on the internet.
This is why feminism is still needed. We recognize women’s oppression in history not to “ride on coattails” but because society still has some fucked up views about women. Really, that incident suggested women wear e-burquas so the menz won’t be tempted to leave nasty comments. This sounds like an equal, woman friendly society?
By which I mean, I hope that’s not the culmination of the flying car dream, not that I hope there are no aeroplanes :$ I’m still holding out for my flying diablo (or more realistically, my flying camry)
@Noadi
The dream lives on!!!
Believe me, I can relate ): My math skills are also pretty average, even though my mom was really good at math and natural sciences (she was a graduate engineer). But from what I observed, it’s often the case that a person is either better at math/natural sciences or better at literature/linguistics (I’m just gonna ignore the few lucky bastards who are good at both, because fuck them! /is petty).
Also seconding the programming love! It may be a bit harder for the less mathematically gifted, but it doesn’t make it any less fun and fulfilling, imho!
Ok, Ozy, I hear you, cautiously, as long as we don’t forget that gender and education is not a one-way street. I feel like it’s treated that way sometimes.
Holly: “If men are so awesome, how did they let this happen? You’d think that people who are naturally meant to be dominant would figure out how to, you know, be dominant.”
They’d probably blame the manginas for letting feminism take over the world. Manginas like myself only tolerate feminism in order to get access to sweet feminist pussy, and because of that promise, we’ve been brainwashed.
I’m basing this answer off a composte of MRA comments I’ve seen, some in response to Futrelle’s Youtube videos.
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Also, I think I can be determined to be trolling based on… whether I am trolling or not. My posts here clearly are not.
“Manginas like myself only tolerate feminism in order to get access to sweet feminist pussy”
If they want pussy so bad, why don’t they pretend to be manginas? I don’t think I’ve heard that one from the PUA bag of tricks.
@Crumbelievable: I can’t believe I forgot the “Hypno-Vagina” defense.
@MRAL: Not saying “manvented” and the like would probably help to let people know you’re serious.
I really don’t believe MRAL was trolling this time round. Cut him a leeetle slack you guys =)
It’s not that no one’s working on flying cars. We’re just not quite there yet.
Although, I’m not sure I want flying machines in the hands of the ordinary public, for reasons thisMitchell and Webb sketch about jetpacks demonstrate.
In terms of female artists from history, Artemisia Gentileschi is a good case to look at. She was lucky, in that her father was an accomplished artist which enabled her to have the training most young women wouldn’t get. She unfortunately also got raped by one of her art tutors, and the subsequent trial was a big scandal in her time.
Spearhafoc, that flying car looks like something out of the Jetsons. I can’t imagine that it would be altogether mainstream for maybe a few decades considering safety measures and rules of the… air (?) need to be drawn.
What I want is those hoverboards from the second Back to the Future. And the automatic lacing shoes. Get on it, Nike, 2015’s coming up.
Sir!
I’m a “stayathome dad”. I weight train with my daughter. I also teach her science, mathematics, and Japanese. Thanks to a rough up-bringing, by ability and competence in the use of lethal force in self-defense has been empirically proven. I can skin a deer, gut a fish, and offer intelligent criticism of modern literature. To question my “manhood” is to reveal oneself as an idiot; on par with insisting that the Sun orbits the Earth and the Moon is made of cheese. So tell me again what being a “stayathome dad” means about my testicles?
They’re also apparently really loud.
About Artemisia, there was apparently a movie made about her that portrayed her rape as a consensual love affair. That feels extra-sleazy to me.
I don’t think we’ll ever have flying cars simply because of the air traffic control nightmare. Picture what kind of drunk driving accidents we’d have if those cars had been airborne
MRAL,
For what it’s worth I don’t think you’re trolling. I just think you’re very wrong and not much used to meta meta and above thinking.
I know this thread is now far past the gender wars of my cats, but I just wanted to report that Loki wandered into the room, saw Athena sleeping on top of the couch, and immediately had to jump on the furniture until he was seated higher than she was. And that wasn’t enough for him, apparently, because now he’s on top of the TV and trying to transition to the mantle.
Ray Percival – Sir – I find your conduct in this Debate to be laughable. Even your Feminist Cronies turn against you and the Light fades into Darkness, sending you fleeing in terror from the deepening Shadows of your own Ignorance.
He says we have no technical skills, and therefore we should invent something to make up for our shortcomings. How could we invent something like that, though, without logic, reason, or technical skills?
Rmaxd shouldn’t contradict himself when he accuses women of being illogical.
@Dad 2 Boys: What’s with the capitalization? Your sentences look like they’ve been constructed from song titles lol.
@Noadi
“I hate to agree with him but MRAL is almost certainly right that a higher percentage of inventions were developed by men than women. This however is because women were largely denied the opportunities and education necessary”
First off, since only the elite had opportunity for education in the bad old days, both elite men and women were educated. So any inventions from the lower caste was done on their own.
Second, how can you possibly make the assumption that women would’ve invented more? Since of the lower class (pretty much everyone denied formal education) who invented, men are overly represented. If you can’t make an assumption one way (men invented more because of x), You can’t make the assumption (women didn’t invent as much because of x).
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@ozymandias42
“I dunno, guys, I think that saying “women did too invent lots of important things,” while true, tends to erase women’s historical oppression.”
Women were never oppressed. You state “historical oppression of women” as if it were a fact when it’s clearly false. For every woman “locked in a home” there was a man laboring in a mine, working as logger, ect. And if ya wanna show me the one or two examples of women working in a mine I’ll show you a thousand examples of men working in a mine.
Here oh historically oppressed, Ozy. I’ll give you a choice. You can either be locked in the home for domestic duty drudgery, or you can work in a mine for a pitance to support your family knowing full well you’re gonna die of black lung. There’s nobody here that’s gonna go with the black lung choice. How about fallin off a log in the river? Sometimes you come up, sometimes ya don’t.
Ya can’t just point to the men at the top and the women and the bottom. I can just as easily point to the women and the top and the men at the bottom. When I do that, all men were historically oppressed by women. Got it my pampered little princess.
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Oh, the Ada Lovlace screed. Wasn’t all her work based off of a man’s work? Two men I believe. She was a translator of their work. Why is when a man builds off a womans work,(all computer algorithims are owed to Ada) she needs to be recognized. Yet if a woman does the same, (Ada built off of their work) those men don’t get any recognition? How do we know she didn’t steal their work as all you gals are so keen to believe men have stolen womens ideas thru history?
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What about all the inventions men have invented at home? Ben Franklin was self taught? A coupla years of grade school. Write brothers. Bell. The list of invention by men from their homes is endless. Women were locked in the home. Isn’t that an advantage?
Apple, the 1st home comp. Done in a garage, no help by anyone. Everybody’s a facebooker. Two guys just up and did it. No help was given. No encouragement. Even in the modern era loads of inventions are done in the home.
The vast majority of State funding goes to women in education. 58% of college grads are women and money is poured into the womens only education coffers. Womens encouragement programs, womens confidence programs, womens salary bargaining programs. On and on it goes. Still men account for the majority of inventions with no extra help and no encouragement.
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Everyone here says oh you guys can’t bring up other men from the past because that isn’t you. Well all I see is everyone here bring up women in the past. Well guess what? That ain’t you. So don’t bring em up.
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Ya can’t just say, men have invented a lot of great stuff and we sure are happy they did. No. It’s gotta be women were oppressed this and women were victims that. Men held us back. Men are bad. Everything’s gotta be a combat. You can’t wait to cry “oppressor.” Women are “victims.”
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Maybe instead of spewing your standard hate. You might wanna try a different tact.