Oh boy. Over on The Spearhead, the good old trusty Spearhead, a fella called Rmaxd has some bold new ideas to share with the world.
Well, they’re not really new, or bold, or true, and some of them kind of seem to contradict each other. But they are, indisputably, ideas. And because he’s a dude, they’re automatically good, because dudes are the dynamic, creative force behind all historical progress. So it’s no wonder this comment of his got more than two dozen upvotes.
Rmaxd starts off by addressing the manginas of the world, and every man who might be considering the benefits of manginahood:
Grow some balls, be masculine, & these so called feminists have zero power
Because NATURE.
We always revert to our biology & nature, over idealism, this is why feminism is dead in the water
And NATURE says women should stay home and cook and pop out babies.
Women in our society are so fucked up, precisely because they rejected their biological need to be part of a society, through their children, husbands & a family
It’s time for a little thought experiment.
Imagine if men were no longer engineers & soldiers & scientists, imagine the biological havoc they would cause on society, all that intellectual brilliance channelled on society, on the loss of their biological roles, instead of as engineers, soldiers & scientists
I’m having a little bit of a hard time imagining, because that doesn’t make any fucking sense. Is he suggesting that the world would collapse if more dudes stayed home and tended the kids?
But never mind, because Rmaxd is on to his next point, which is that women are terrible at math and this makes them OBSOLETE!
In a technology based society, women are the first to be discarded, their lack of scientific & mathematical skills are a liability to our technological culture
Also, they’re lazy and don’t invent shit. Even though by keeping them at home and denying them education the men of the world gave them ample opportunity to invent all sorts of shit, they chose instead to sit on their fat asses and eat bon bons.
Women have in fact been stayathome moms for centuries, theyve NEVER had to work for centuries, they have now had centuries of shelter & protection from corporations, theyve had massive amounts of leisure, in fact more leisure then most working males through out history
& what did women do with that leisure, with all that time & opportunity to progress science?
Women became biological luddites, they became entitled, inbred & backwards & technologically liabilities in our present technologically based age
When women should’ve been developing technologies to makeup for their inability to logic & reason, in the same way men developed music & art in order for men to experience emotions, all they did was call for young men to destroying their own futures, to be used as walking wallets & chattle
You can tell how innovative Rmaxd is, because he’s totally just innovated a new way to spell “chattel.”
Anyway, QED, fuck women.
Women are liabilities, we no longer need women to maintain our social networks, we have everything from mobile phones to the internet
Huh. Declaring half of humanity expendable. I was under the impression that MRA dudes considered that sort of thinking to be the equivalent of committing GENOCIDE. Seems some of them were making a big stink about that the other day, when a couple of ladies made some similar remarks about men.
Weird. Because MRA dudes are upvoting this, instead of gathering together in angry mobs on the internet to EXPOSE this dude’s personal information and talk about Fucking His Shit Up.
Never mind, though, because Rmaxd isn’t done with his case against ladies.
We no longer need them to maintain morality, as theyre incapable of morality, a womans ability to destroy herself, in the same fat women destroy their own bodies, is unprecedented, give a woman enough leisure & freetime, & all she’s capable of is how to enslave all of society, to ensure society does the same for women everywhere, irrespective of the results
Damn. So women getting fat is part of a sinister plot to enslave mankind?
This all sounds pretty dire for us civilization-creating dudes.
Happily, as Rmaxd explains in another comment, the ladies are so crazily self-destructive that they will fail in their evil designs, despite “being bankrolled by the rich upper class.” Just like the evil radical blacks back in the 1970s:
[W]omen are following the black activism handbook of the 70′s. …
[N]ear the end of the black movement, as the more mainstream, publicly accepted part of black militancy was rejected & debunked, the more radical components of the movement, began attacking its own supporters, in particular the white supporters of black rights, & they also started attacking blacks who were sympathetic to white males
We see the exact same thing happening with feminism, as the more popular & acceptable parts of feminism have now been rejected by popular culture, ie the colossal failure of stayathome dads
Because nothing is more evil and against NATURE than stay-at-home dads! It’s like sodomy squared.
Anyway, the evil ladies are doomed.
They now start becoming more radical, their antagonism & alienation of men, especially manginas & feminists will inevitably destroy them
As we all know women & especially special rights movements, are always self destructive, as the solutions are never radical enough.
So back to the homes, ladies, where you can return to fulfilling NATURE’s role for the females of the species: sitting on your fat asses and eating bon bons and being terrible at math. Because that is nature’s way.
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Oh, you did remind me of one thing that the bf had to do, cynickal: shave his face. He looks pretty unkempt if he doesn’t shave every day, which is too bad, because it’s fun to rub my cheek against his stubble. So there you go, one more step for the dudely folks that I didn’t have to do. 🙂
MRAL, if you’re still around –
It is possible that it is easier for women to get laid because it is socially expected for men to do the approaching. Possible, but I don’t know that we have sufficient data to confirm this.
It’s also possible that men just talk about it more – women may be more socially conditioned to act like they don’t care about sex as much. I do know quite a few women wanting and struggling to get the sexual relationships they want, but the majority of them are typically pretty quiet about it.
There are probably other possible hypotheses that I am not thinking of.
Also, even if it is easier for women to get laid on average, that doesn’t mean the curves don’t overlap more than not.
IME, most lesbian and bisexual women who identify themselves as feminists genuinely do not have “ishoos” with men and actually believe in equality. Most straight chicks who identify themselves as feminists have “male ishoos” and/or they have a sense of entitlement(that is, they act like the world owes them something because they are women).
I actually think that humanoid sexbots made in the likeness of both males and females will improve relations between men and women because they won’t need each other for sex and perhaps relate to one another as fellow humans…..But for now that’s just science fiction and we will just have to put up with each other. 😛
Dracula: I lost my virginity @ age 19 and I did so by a fluke of luck(that is, using printed personals)that gave me the opportunity to meet and get to know a girl who was pretty odd and introverted just like me. I was never all that intimidated by women, but before I met her women seemed to find me repulsive and didn’t treat me well. So I started to develop a lot of resentment towards them for that; but then I met her and realized that I wasn’t completely undatable and unfuckable after all. 😉
@NoName
I’ll admit to having issues with relationships, but not because of feminism. Some stem from my generalized anxiety disorder and ADD, some from a reluctance to socialize, some from religious ‘True Love Waits’ baggage (disproportionately marketed to women, because it would be cruel to inhibit a man’s sex drive *rolls eyes*). If my feminism is an issue in a relationship, generally it’s because the other person made it an issue.
Well Amnesia, you do realize that gals like you have male counterparts(MGTOW and maybe even some MRAs…..LOL). Wouldn’t that be something! A feminist and a misogynist whiny MRA hooking up!!
Glad to know that, by virtue of my attraction to women, I’m not a shrew. Hey, back when I was in high school and thought that I was straight, was I the bad kind of feminist? Or have I been the good kind all along?
@Viscaria You must have been a chameleon.
So, I hit the line about how inbred women have become, and I got confused. I was pretty sure we hadn’t figured out how to get two women pregnant with each other yet without some semen in the mix, let alone letting them do so with their own cousins.
So how, exactly, did the menz avoid the problems of being inbred while the consequences all fell on the women? Or does my Y chromosone got magical anti-incest powers, or something?
@NoName
I’m actually somewhat insulted. Well done.
Do we need to make JTK a map or something? He seems a little nervous about going, maybe he’s just scared to ask for directions.
@Freemage
I wondered the same thing, but I think everyone else decided to just step over that steaming pile of wtfery
MRAL wrote, “Well Ozy, what I’m saying is that the Nice Girls, like the Nice Guys, look at dating like a script. They say, okay, point one, look hot. And so the Girls make themselves look good, through losing weight or dressing a certain way. Okay, point two, go to a hotspot. A bar or whatever. And then they say WHERE’S MY MAN? And then, give a little while… a man appears.”
AND A WILD NAKED DUDE APPEARS!
*cough* Sorry.
MRAL, I read Ozy’s post and also found a lot of things that resonated. I’ve worked on myself a great deal over the past four years (acne treatments, fashion, etc.) But never, at any point, has a guy “just appeared” for me. Even when I’m wearing makeup and my hottest dress and am actually feeling witty, I’ve ALWAYS done the approaching. Always.
So all I did was explain to MRAL that women can have a hard time dating too and this is interpreted by you as some huge screwed up miscommunication between men and women?
Yea, you really are better off going your own way.
JTK, how about you GO?
Haha yep I love the mockumentary episodes too. Just a huge Simpsons fan all around actually.
And yea, NWO would probably spontaneously combust at the sight of any woman showing half an inch of skin and walking into his office 😛
@Lauralot
My thoughts exactly -_-
Shorter JTK: Relationships are hard, so I quit.
Seriously dude, we all fully support your decision. If you’re unwilling to accept the risks that come with adult relationships, then I agree that you shouldn’t be involved in them.
Just do yourself a favor and quit trying to convince anyone that there’s some deeper, universally applicable philosophical meaning behind your personal choices here. There isn’t, you’re just being pretentious.
It’s totally effective!
Wait… am I crossing my memes?
It’s totally effective!
Wait… am I crossing my memes?
If you are, never stop. This was awesome!
@Amnesia:
’ll admit to having issues with relationships, but not because of feminism. Some stem from my generalized anxiety disorder and ADD, some from a reluctance to socialize, some from religious ‘True Love Waits’ baggage (…)
Don’t feel bad about yourself because stupid troll is trolling. That’s just a typical knee-jerk response from a narcissistic, self-important neurotypical person who hasn’t stopped to consider the world from the non-NT’s perspective, because he is incapable of it.
Fellow ADHD’er here, combined type (thought to be rarer in women, perhaps because the disorder is studied and treated on a male model?). I also suffer panic attacks. It’s definitely set me back in interpersonal relations, though not romantic ones so much. I am extroverted, so I fake it. And I have a forgiving male partner who is quite empathetic. I suffer majorly when I try to get past the “acquaintances” point with people, particularly in business or platonic social situations. It makes for a lot of getting stepped on and getting taken advantage of.
I’d describe my personal social style as “extroverted avoidant misanthrope.” Trolling troll can feel free to troll me from here to eternity, with an extra dash of blaming feminism for good measure. (Why yes, dear trollie, I even work in tech and have negative maternal instincts whatsoever!) I am who I am and I don’t give a damn!
Would you like to join me on ADD Forums (www.addforums.com)? You will find a huge community of fellow ADD and ADHD folk ready and willing to listen and exchange ideas over there. One type you will not find is MRAs, though. MRAs and folks who are majorly insensitive to non-NT people tend to be one and the same, and the banhammer on that forum is swift, mighty, and merciless, due to the sensitive subject matter.
Hope to see you there! (And here, of course. I’m planning on posting early and often on Man Boobz, no matter how much our resident MRA brats might wish otherwise.)
Are you calling Mr nameless Frenchy NEUROTYPICAL???
If you were you should know that I have a pretty severe case of Asperger Syndrome. ADD is grossly overdiagnosed and I have my doubts about whether it’s a real disorder. Many people I know who are bipolar(as in manic-depressive/Type I)got an ADHD misdiagnosis when they were growing up; but I digress………..Asperger syndrome makes it much harder to get along in the world and relate to others than ADD. I hope you realize the irony of what you said about me(though I will admit to being a bit of a narcissist :-P).
Nameless dude.
You are implying that being an aspie is an excuse for being an asshole. Stop it.
MRAL, i think I partially agree with what you say: it is easier for women to have sex than men. Not that I know that for sure, it’s just an opinion based on observation, personal experience and listening. I did heard of a study saying that college men were more likely to accept sex with a total stranger than college women, but there is still need for more information.
The cause, if that is indeed the case, is that women are taught that they should not want sex, that being horny is not normal for them, that waiting makes one more respectable, that sex, and more sex with a stranger, is dangerous. Men are taught that being a virgin is laughable, having sex shows their manliness,… This is the very-unfeminist context in which we are.
That told, I must respectfully tell you that you are very wrong on the implications of these hypothesis.
Because having sex is not the end of all your troubles, but the beginning of much bigger ones. (which does not means that sex is bad, it’s not. But it’s messy and complicated)
Because most of the people (men and women) I know want, most of the times, sex and relationship. Actually, I know nobody, personally, that want just hook-ups. And having a good relationship is something that, IME, is just as hard for men and women.
Three relevant examples:
Me: At your ages, I was a virgin. Had never had a boyfriend. Had never kissed anybody on the lips. Was (still is) very shy, very uninterested in going to clubs or bars. But, you know… everything happens.
Male friend D.: Exact same situation than above. He’s a short, chubby, geeky very nice guy. But I saw D. yesterday with his girlfriend.
Female friend A.: Opposite situation. At your age, A. had a boyfriend. She’s a very pretty, smart woman. With some friends, we used to say that she was the woman from The perfume, as she seems to attract everybody (not necessary sexually or romantically) that meet her. But that does not mean her love live is all kittens and flowers. It’s not. It currently is messy and utterly painful, the least reason being, again, that sex is easier to get than relationships. And relationship are not always good.
NAMELESS TROLL:
*I have a serious case of X*
YOUR case of Y is overdiagnosed and much less worse than MY case.*
Yeah, right, nameless troll.
I don’t like doubting people when they say they’re on the autism spectrum, as I have an autistic cousin, but in this case I would bet money that No Name was diagnosed by Dr. Google.
And even if he is for real, being non-neurotypical is no excuse to be an assbasket.
Laplacedemon: You gots to give women more credit than that. Women today aint’ timid sexually. No women I know who give a rats ass about society’s outdated restrictions like “women mustn’t be untamed sexual animals” bullshyt. Today women are liberated and make no qualms about having as many sexual partners as makes them happy.
I think women are more discriminatory on who they hop into bed with – they weigh and consider more things than a man will. Most.
But if a woman ain’t sleeping with a man it’s because she ain’t got the hots for him, not because she is worried about that double standard shyt. At least the women I know. And I’m old as shyt.
[quote] “It’s also possible that men just talk about it more – women may be more socially conditioned to act like they don’t care about sex as much. ” – Laplacedemon [end quote]