Nope! As the totally scientific chart above shows, it also contains: generalized misogyny, racism, atheist dickbaggery, and last but not least: lots of pics hosted on imgur!
Here, some recent data, most of which I have borrowed from ShitRedditSays. I’ve put the number of upvotes for each post in brackets, when relevant.
Rape jokes:
Guys, you’re not making enough rape jokes! [+856]
“I’d fuck her until the neighbours complained about the smell.” [+250] [Bonus points: Also a murder and necrophilia joke!]
Rape clock [+36]
Redditors mock a rape victim! [Assorted upvoted posts]
Pedophilia apologia:
Admitted pedo and child porn fancier compares himself with Gandhi [+83]
More goodness (by which I mean badness) from that thread, courtesy of SRS.
Oh noes! Evil anti-pedos threaten free pedo speech! [+25]
He’s been shamed into deleting it by you. Are you happy now? For the record, mattperrin said “Why does she have to be 18? So she can be in porn? Very very few girls enter porn, and if you’re just talking about being sexually aroused by her, that’s okay for anyone 13+”.
Pedo joke … perfection! [+100]
General Misogyny (and creepiness):
Ha Ha! Girls can’t work cameras! [+636]
Girls only like thugs and they’re all dumb and why oh why won’t they go out with a nice guy like me? Did I mention I hate women? [+assorted massive upvotes]
Help me prove to this guy feminism is no longer needed. (Please do not use profanity and words like “cunt” though.) [This whole discussion is sort of delicious; our pal ThingsAreBad, aka JeremiahMRA, pops in to argue that feminism was never needed because everything was peachy back when women couldn’t vote.]
I’d fuck her right into a broken hip. [+588] [Referencing Helen Mirren.]
Racism:
“I just had sex with my first black guy, and believe me it’s true what they say…he stole my t.v.” [+477]
“No no no, that will just attract more rapists.” [+70] [BONUS POINT: Is also a rape joke!]
Atheist douchebags:
Reddit Makes Me Hate Atheists, by Rebecca Watson. As you’ll notice, her examples from r/atheism contain many massively upvoted rape and pedophilia jokes, not to mention lots more generalized misogynistic douchebaggery. The circle is complete!
But generally speaking you can pick almost any random highly upvoted post here for endless more examples of what makes even atheist activists hate Reddit atheists.
Which have helped to inspire this meme.
Pics on Imgur:
Top posts on (my) Reddit at the moment:
Then again, random pics of cute dogs and squirrel-riding frogs are certainly preferable to more angry racist rapey hatey pedo-justifying crap. So, yay imgur, I guess? (At least when it’s not being used to post still more angry racist rapey hatey pedo-justifying crap.)
Sir, you’re not cool and you’re not original. Again, either address the current post or get your shit together and dig through the archives. Maybe you’ll learn something along the way.
As far as I understand it from what RW’s written and said, it’s been an ongoing issue in the atheist communities. Why don’t more women want to join?
Sure you did, Brandon. Sure you did. She said something you didn’t like, so she acted like a child. And this is your attempt at honest debate?
How about I give you the benefit of the doubt?
Provide the quotes where I’ve stated that any interactions a man has with a woman are just an attempt to have sex with her. You attributed this claim to me earlier. You say you’re open to honest debate and yet you communicate in a fashion that is fundamentally dishonest.
Back up your assertions.
@Lady Zombie: You are jumping to conclusions. There is a difference between asking the question and expecting that person to comply with what you are saying. Asking a question doesn’t automatically mean “I am going to get mad if he/she says no”.
My above scenario goes as follows:
“Hey, you want to hit up one more bar before we call it a night”
“No” / “Ok then, have a good night.”
“Yes” / “Great, there is a bar we haven’t gone to down the street”
Either way, I am not casting judgement or expecting anything. I am simply asking a question.
Working for a SEO sounds like a tedious, irritating job. My sympathies.
Brandon, it’s utterly beside the point. Watson wasn’t offering dating advice. She was speaking to a very specific audience about a very specific issue.
You’re attempting to paint her comment as “arrogant” and a “command” to all men and it’s just so much transparent bullshit. This isn’t about how you talk to your friends, or barhopping or any of that. You fixated on Watson’s name and made a half-assed argument based on your interpretation of your limited facts, and here we are.
Dick-head momentum.
@Nobinayamu: Lots of people say things I don’t like. Hell, I very rarely agree with communists. However, I don’t think they are acting like children. I just disagree with their politics and their favored policies.
“Thanks, Bee. See, I know Brandon is too lazy to actually go review the video but I figured he might actually scan your post. I should’ve known better. ”
Makes the assumption that I didn’t watch the video. Draws faulty conclusion based on NO information since I neither said yes/no to watching the video.
“All of the “…we don’t know with absolute certainty that he was trying to hit on her…” bullshit is your feeble attempt to create an argument now that it’s been thoroughly proven that you were arguing out of your ass. ”
1) We don’t know for certainty.
2) questioning the data presented is hardly a “feeble attempt to create an argument”. It actually is the proper way to test a hypothesis and to strengthen a position.
3) You are making the assumption that the guy is “clearly” trying to pick her up. I am saying “quite possible, yet there isn’t enough data to support that claim”.
4) It is bad form to claim facts based on speculation and wishful thinking.
5) It is quite possible for the guy to not want sex or a relationship with Rebecca.
@Bee: You misread my question. I read your last comment as you thought that it was mens fault for the lack of women in the atheist community.
@Brandon
I’ve hit on plenty of guys. I’ve hit on them in lots of different situations. I’ve used a variety of approaches. Guess what? I had the best success when I took their feelings/dispositions into account. For instance, if the guy stands up, announces he’s leaving to go home and go to bed, I don’t insist that he has another round with me. I just smile and say “see you around sometime?” If he’s interested, he’ll tell me yes and when I can meet up with him again. I don’t get up and follow him to the door asking for him to go have coffee, or anything else, with me. Why? Because he just said what he wants to do, i.e. go home and sleep.
@Lady Zombie: Asking a question is not insisting. Also, you are implying that the guy was following Rebecca for the sole reason of asking her to chat over coffee. He very well might have decided to go to his room and he bumped into her at the elevator.
While they were alone on an elevator in the middle of the night. And he didn’t ask her for tea. He asked her to come to his hotel room.
Awkward much?
So the dude got turned down. Maybe next time he won’t approach women in the middle of the night on an elevator when he’s drunk. Live and learn.
Maybe next time he’ll ask to meet the next day for coffee.
@Brandon
Continue not getting it. It just illustrates her point.
@Lady Zombie
There’s Brandon’s disconnect. A woman talked. Brandon’s brain (yes, I making a huge assumption here) automatically turned off. And hey, he thinks that an elevator at 4am after a day of giving a formal talk then spending more time until 4 am talking and declaring that he’s tired and want to get some sleep is a great time to make new friends in their private hotel room.
Because THERE IS NO CONTEXT!!!!
Obtuse troll is obtuse.
Perhaps Nobinayamu was basing her comment on your various misunderstandings of what the video contained.
Well, I didn’t touch on that, actually, Brandon. I have never been involved in an atheist community, so I wouldn’t be able to say for sure, but what RW has written suggests that she thinks that women don’t join in these groups because they don’t feel welcome. Either they’re hit on constantly or they have to navigate these misogynistic undertones. So this is what RW has seen and heard from other women, and then RW hears the (mostly male) atheist communities ask why more women don’t want to be involved.
A woman saying something makes her uncomfortable or speaking out against rape and harassment while a bunch of men get all butthurt and indignant?
Just your average everyday entitlement and misogyny. Its not even surprising anymore.
I wonder how they’d feel if some huge muscled man started hitting on them in an elevator. I wonder if they’ll think its acceptable then to state that they feel uncomfortable or creeped out in such a situation. Starting to think that many men will never understand that gross “piece of meat” feeling until they start getting hit on all the time and in a dehumanizing way, let alone in a cramped space which you can’t escape from right away.
Meanwhile, back in reality, “would you like to come to my hotel room” means either “let’s fuck” or “you look tired, do you want to take a nap?”.
If people want to sit around and have a chat, hotels have plenty of public areas in which one can do that.
Brandon, I was referencing your general goal post moving and feeble attempts at deflection when I said that.
Doesn’t matter; it isn’t the point. It isn’t the point of this post, it wasn’t the point of Watson’s video, it isn’t a point I’ve tried to make (still waiting for those quotes) and it has nothing to do with the larger issue which Watson was addressing. Again, context matters.
Your original “argument” was that Watson was acting like a child. You referenced. and misrepresented, the statements she made in her video and the elevator-gate brouhaha that resulted. But you didn’t actually watch Watson’s video. If you had then you would’ve known, before it was pointed out to you in this discussion -in exacting detail- that Watson made no demands, made a statement directly relevant to her audience and her work as a speaker, and well within the context of an ongoing discussion about encouraging women to join atheist groups. How, precisely, is that acting like a child?
Nope. Never did. I never stated that the guy was "clearly" trying to pick her up. My defense of Watson's statements has been two-fold: 1) she didn't make an arrogant command to or demand of men, generally, because the audience and subject she was addressing were incredibly specific and 2) you're not qualified to pass judgment because you have no fucking idea what you're talking about .You heard that Watson told men not approach women in elevators and pitched a hissy-fit about it.
Puh-fucking-lease, Brandon. You once ranted for nearly a hundred posts based on a hypothetical situation in which your hypothetical baby mama asked you (in an arrogant, demanding, commanding way — sensing a theme?) for hypothetical school supplies for your hypothetical kid. You attributed a variety of nefarious intentions to that hypothetical “bitch” while explaining to all of us that how you’d be all, hypothetically, passive aggressive in order to put her in her place. Seriously? Shut the fuck up.
I never said that it was impossible. I don’t think the most important part of elevator-gate is whether or not some dude in an elevator wanted to have sex with Watson or not. Because I’m not an idiot.
@Lady Zombie: Get what? There is nothing to get. She said no, that is the end of it. Or that should have been the end of it. No video or blog post, no Dawkins or Myers chiming in on the topic…no nothing.
@Leni: Ya, it was awkward…so what? That doesn’t mean that atheist men should take what she said as gospel (i,e not starting a conversation with someone at 4am in an elevator).
In fact, this video pretty much shows the stupidity of the whole “scandal”:
In the end, Rebecca felt self-important enough to say to atheist men what they shouldn’t do. She said “Guys, don’t do that!” and somehow it is the men’s fault because we couldn’t read her mind and that it wasn’t her telling “guys” what they ought not to do but her saying “this is how you can make the community more female friendly”
Well, maybe she should have said that and not “guys, don’t do that”. Certain people might…you know…take her at her word.
Oh, hey look, it’s another video from that guy who says church is more harmful than child molestation. Yeah, I’m sure that’ll be full of insight.
The funniest thing about observing this episode of The Brandon Show? “You don’t get to tell me what to do!!!” is an incredibly childish thing to get stuck on.
Meh. Block quote fail.
My point still stands. Brandon comes in here, claiming to be open to honest debate. Makes an argument about Watson acting like a child based on what he thinks he knows about elevator-gate. When it’s clear that he has no idea what he’s talking about, he changes the discussion so that he can do 100 posts on the finer nuances of barhopping and asking someone to coffee at 4 am and who wants to have sex with Rebecca Watson.
also lol @ Brandon pretending that the guy was just innocently asking her to hang out. I’d actually like to believe he is that naive, but he obviously is just being a tool for the sake of arguing/trolling/derailing
Posting a video by TheAmazingAtheist soooo doesn’t help your argument. That “man” is vile piece of opportunistic, misogynist scum. I’ve seen what he says to feminists on Youtube.
And @Brandon she didn’t fault men for not “reading” her. She used what happened to her as an example of what not to do if you want to attract more atheist women into the community.
No, in the beginning, Rebecca Watson is a writer and speaker important enough to be invited to speak at atheist meetings. She is a writer and speaker important enough to be asked to address, specifically, the seeming lack of female interest and participation within the community and she addressed what she legitimately believef to be one -and only one- of the underlying factors in a public forum.
This isn’t about you (for the thousandth time, Brandon, it isn’t about you) or men, generally, or what it means to ask someone out for coffee or any of it. She was asked, directly, how the atheist community can be more welcoming to women and she addressed that concern, directly.
Which, somehow, is “…acting like a child…”
Dick-head momentum.