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“Handsome betas are polluting the gene pool with pigwoman blood,” and other observations on love and life from Chateau Heartiste

I mean, my shoes are totally better than his!

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Over on Chateau Heartiste, the (He)artist(e) Formerly Known As Roissy devoted  a recent post to the conundrum of handsome men coupled with ugly women. It’s essentially an open thread for the denigration of women who don’t live up to Roissy’s porntastic standards (17 to 20 years old with a BMI of about 18 *and* a D cup, and related WTF?! attributes), as well as ragging on those awful beta manginas who are punching below their weight – or, to quote Heartiste himself, are “polluting the gene pool with pigwoman blood.”

I was participating in a mobile conference which included question and answer periods, and I noticed an odd couple standing to my side. He was youngish and good-looking — most women would agree on his physical attractiveness — and his wife was a snout-nosed, inbred-looking, stringy-haired, big fat pig dressed in sweatshirt and ill-fitting jeans. In other words, the typical American woman. I assumed they were married because I saw their rings and she had her hand on a stroller with an infant tucked away in it.

He’s just getting started.

What abomination is this! I thought. But then the reason became crystal clear after only a few moments watching and listening to them interact.

Speaker: Any questions?

Big Fat Pig: [nudging her hubby with her elbow] Honey, remember…

Handsome Husbandry: [tentatively raising his index and middle finger, and haltingly talking] I have a question… I have a…

So obviously the young good-looking man is totally under the thumb of the big fat evil feminist woman, who has sucked out his brains and reduced him to a quivering lump of hesitation and uncertainty!

As he asked his question, he kept looking over at his wife — in fact, staring at his wife more than the speaker, although he was ostensibly addressing the speaker. One would be forgiven for having the impression that he was seeking constant real-time assurance from his wife that his question was acceptable for public discourse. Nervously shifting from one foot to the other, leaning into his wife, gazing downward when the speaker responded to him, his body language was so beta it was painful to watch. No, it was repulsive to behold, almost as repulsive as the visual effrontery of his wife’s blubbery carcass.

So, sniveling, indecisive beta manginas are repulsive… but not as repulsive as a corpulent woman! Gotcha, Roissy.

After getting in a few more digs at the contemptuous, unsympathetic wife, Roissy sets forth his views on various types of couples. First, the kinds of couples that should be allowed to exist:

Handsome man with beautiful woman

All is right in the world. You infer the man has alpha characteristics to complement his good looks, and he has cashed that in for a hot babe. …

Ugly man with ugly woman

All is right, if depressing, in the world. You infer the ugly man has beta or even omega characteristics, and that an ugly woman was the best he could do. You assume the ugly woman resents him for having to settle, but knows she has no other options. Love between them is less about passion than it is about task delegation and avoidance of suicidal loneliness.

All is well in the world of alpha males with hot babes, but those in ugly people combos need to find some highly diverting hobbies to keep from offing themselves.

Now Roissy turns his attention to two apparent mismatches, and delineates his usual double standards:

Ugly man with beautiful woman

Wow, he is shooting out of his league! But then, thinking on it a bit, you recall that you saw quite a few couples like this mismatched pair during the week. It’s less rare than popularly imagined. You may ask yourself “What does she see in him?”, and from that you infer the ugly man has compensating alpha attributes to snag such a hottie — maybe he’s wealthy, or slick, or funny, or a dominating asshole, or some combination of each. You assume this ugly man has options to be able to choose a beauty for a girlfriend.

Moral: ugly men are permitted to have counter-balancing attributes! Can you guess what is coming next?

Handsome man with ugly woman

Whoa, what is he thinking?! An uncommon sight, (occurrence less frequent than its polar opposite), you presume the handsome man has some debilitating personality flaw — maybe social awkwardness, or shyness, or micropenis — that prevents him from fornicating with his true potential. Unlike the mirror image couple of the ugly man with the beautiful woman, you do not give the ugly woman the benefit of the doubt in assessing why she was able to catch a handsome man. You simply conclude, reasonably, that the handsome man is not the alpha male on the inside that he looks like on the outside, and therefore the ugly woman is not really dating out of her league. There must be something wrong with him, you think.

Women have no value beyond their looks, so the pitiful man dating someone wretchedly below Roissy’s artificial standards must likewise be sub-standard, in some way invisible to us, to have abased himself so humiliatingly.

Having drawn these pictures, Roissy rounds out the post with a sermon on female ugliness, which is to be universally shunned:

There is an instinctive, deeply primitive understanding chugging away behind the prefrontal cortex in every one of us that women sexually respond to a suite of male attractiveness traits, of which looks are only one desirable male quality. It is therefore not inconceivable to most non-brainwashed observers that an ugly man might have other characteristics that appeal to a beautiful woman on his arms, or that a handsome man might be crippled with weakness and self-doubt that constrains his ability to attract no better than a big fat pigwoman.

And we’re back to the disparaging references to pigs. Why, oh why does Roissy hate pork so? (That he detests women is more or less expected.)

In the mismatched couple I witnessed, it was clear that whatever good will or tokens of desire that the handsome man had inspired in his pigwoman were completely squandered by his beta behavior. It was easy to see by her loathsome demeanor that his looks no longer held — if they ever did beyond the first couple of dates — any sway over her feelings for him. But being the big fat pigwoman she is, she knew she could not do better.

And that is why the generational increase in human beauty is a slow, painstaking process, punctuated by tragic reversals to a sloping brow norm (see: Appalachia, Detroit). Handsome betas are polluting the gene pool with pigwoman blood.

What the hell was that? I’ll quote it again: “Handsome betas are polluting the gene pool with pigwoman blood.” Oh, the huge manatee! Shrink in terror from the impending doom to be brought about by porcine-human hybrids!

Naturally such hyperbole is a cue for some predictable misogyny in the comments, such as the following from regular tool Tyrone:

That’s why its good to be older to get a good sense for how a woman will age. There are loads of women who look hot when young but turn into cattle as they age. Mom is usually a good bench mark. If you’d do her Mom, you’re probably safe. Check out how Ginger Lynn looks like nowadays. You’d never recognize her from her porn days.

A view right in line with Roissy’s famed dating value regimen that women lose value once they’re older than, say, 29; and Tyrone follows it up with some white supremacism:

White people won’t survive without more kids. Smart white men need to breed more in our country- with white women.

What, you might ask, about women with great bodies but unappealing faces? One Anonymous coward urges his brethren to go for it :

[O]ne of my biggest regrets was not doing a girl who had the hottest body around but an ugly face. Temporarily of course.

But for fuck’s sake don’t marry them. Right, tenderman100?

Some years ago, before I was married for the first time (twice married, twice divorced) I was banging this babe. Amazing body. Amazing tits. But a kind of a bucktoothed face. When I first met her, I thought, wow what amazing tits…yeah she’s kinda ugly but she’s friendly and I just have to see those tat tas. Well, not only did I see them, we banged for a few months. She was incredible in bed, highly orgasmic, very flexible (did ballet). Haven’t seen her in decades, but if she is a fat cow, I wouldn’t be surprised. Yeah, she was ugly but she pounded like a pro. So it isn’t always what it seems. Then again, I would never have married her.

If not marriage, then what about a long-term relationship? Over again to Tyrone:

A good woman who has reparable shortcomings is still a good option for an LTR. Fugly is a whole different animal.

But if you marry one of them, Tyrone adds, make sure you have a contingency plan!

My wife knows if she ever lets herself go, talks about divorce, whatever that pisses me off enough to leave, I will simply disappear into the night. No arguments or emotions, it will be a complete coup de main. There won’t be anyone around to serve papers to. I’ll be overseas in an undisclosed location screwing LBFMs.

In case you don’t already know, LBFM is short for Little Brown Fucking Machines, a term of art to refer to Asian women (frequently underage) sought out by sex tourists — which should be sufficient to outline Tyrone’s sophisticated moral principles. He continues:

I say this with no emotion or bravado, just let her know its a fact that she must deal with. Marriage is like defense policy, the best defense is a good offense. Strike first, strike to kill. Identify a location and buy yourself some property there, so you have somewhere to go. Move enough money there to live well until you can start a bar or whatever to live. Plan this for a few years in advance if need be. Life is too short to be some stupid broad’s wage slave.

How charming!

Heartiste really has a way of bringing out the best in people!

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Kyrie
Kyrie
12 years ago

– Honey, please do the dishes while I put the kids to bed.

– Goddamit, women, respect my mighty penis or I go live in China and have sex with teenagers younger than our children. Also I will totally open a bar or something.

– Sure, honey, sure.
* walk back slowly and grab a suitcase and the kids.

Also, I think he meant “un coup de maitre”. Un coup de main is just being helpful, but I’m guessing he does neither.

Kyrie
Kyrie
12 years ago

This kind of article makes me a bit sick and but also sad for those men. Instead of saying: “Apparently all the possible combinations of people exist, including some that don’t make a lot of sense to me at first sight. Funny that. Now, how could I make my life better?”, they spend their time scheming and inventing crazy theories to explain the world in a way that make them look good and rationalize their anger.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

I was going to say, my French kind of sucks, but I don’t think that means what he thinks it means.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

Actually, someone should adapt this and use it next time a PUA approaches them.

“Hey baby, nice nails, are they fake?”

“I’m sorry, but I just can’t risk polluting the gene pool with your inferior beta blood. I mean, will you look at that hair? And those shoes, ugh. I just can’t fuck you, I’m afraid – my superior genes must not be diluted. It’s for the good of mankind that I reject you.”

Kendra, the bionic mommy
Kendra, the bionic mommy
12 years ago

Tyrone’s plan to run away is total bullshit. If one spouse files for divorce, someone living out of the country has 90 days to sign the divorce papers. If zie doesn’t sign the papers, the divorce will proceed anyway without hir involvement. It’s not a good idea to simply ignore the divorce because then you won’t be able to state your desires in mediation or court. Tyrone is describing desertion, which is a grounds for a fault divorce. As a guilty party in the fault divorce, he would stand to lose more than agreeing to an amicable no fault divorce. In other words, his foolproof plan to screw over his wife would only hurt himself.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

Actually I have to thank the dumbasses at Heartiste for putting me into the mood to listen to lots of metal and horrorpunk. I am now officially having much more fun than they ever will.

Kendra, the bionic mommy
Kendra, the bionic mommy
12 years ago

By the way, if Tyrone was discussing desertion as a way to avoid child support, his plan also could backfire. Just because he leaves the country, he would still be responsible for paying child support. The US government would not be able to garnish his wages if he was working in another country, but it is possible to extradite him because failure to pay is a crime. I don’t know how likely extradition is, though. Either way, the arrearage will keep growing as he hides away and doesn’t pay. He wouldn’t want to come back to his home country unless he has the money to pay all back support. Another consequence is that the US government can put a freeze on him obtaining or renewing his passport, limiting his ability to flee his obligations.

Finally, if he has a professional license to practice medicine, law, teaching, etc. he could also have his license suspended until the arrearage is paid in full. That wouldn’t prevent him from working unlicensed in another country, but it would make it very difficult for him to obtain a new license in another country. I’m not sure why he would be willing to travel without a passport, launder money, and face jail time just to avoid paying for his own children’s needs, assuming he has children and is afraid of paying child support. This is just showing another way that desertion is not only an unethical solution to an unhappy marriage, but it’s also not in his own self interest.

Arks
Arks
12 years ago

The only good thing Roissy ever did was coin the term “hamster spinning,” or at least I think he did. Otherwise, he is pretty much the king of betas. To me, Roissy represents a movement which refuses to hold women accountable for their behaviour. A movement where women acting like selfish, unintelligent and hypocritical infants is justified, and the onus is on the guy to just man up and learn to deal with it. In this world, failure and success is based on how well a man works with these negative traits in order to supplicate women in the way they specifically desire.

In other words, Roissy is repackaged feminism.

This is why MGTOW will always be the superior movement. It tells women that it takes two to tango. That if women want sex and romance with us intelligent, creative, handsome and witty guys, then THEY are the ones who need to step up their game. The world will improve when women collectively agree to grow personalities, grow spines, get some hobbies and graduate to being human beings, not by continuing this sick system of women as temperamental rubiks cubes and guys as those who have to restructure their lives to solve them.

Smash the gynocracy.

ozymandias42
12 years ago

Intelligent, creative, handsome, and witty guys… like the dude who keeps calling women manatees?

I’ll pass.

Arks
Arks
12 years ago

@ozy

Manatee is not a gendered term. There’s male manatees, and if you put on enough weight then whatever you are would be a manatee as well.

Viscaria
Viscaria
12 years ago

Ozy:

Also, fuck, I’m a perfect Roissy girlfriend. Heeeeeeeelp!

I think this all the time. Okay, maybe a little past it at 22, but I’m thin and femme and a cheap date and obviously willing to date people 15 years older than me (which I’m sure is crucial). If it weren’t for this silly feminist “I expect my partner to treat me like a human being” idea that somehow got planted in my pretty little head, I could be the perfect woman!

I’m sure PUAs would be all kinds of annoyed that I don’t have the grace to outwardly demonstrate my evil feminist harpy ways.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

Wait, isn’t the point of the whole MGTOW thing supposed to be that you’re going to go your own way, ie associate with women no more?

If it really is an attempt to force women to change our behavior (and yes, I know that it is) then it may go down in history as the least effective political movement of all time.

Noadi
12 years ago

In guerrilla warfare “coup de main” is an attack that relies on speed and surprise. Not really appropriate if you are saying your wife knows what you would do since you lose the element of surprise. So pretty clueless about tactics as well as about dating.

ozymandias42
12 years ago

Wikipedia says that the US lacks extradition treaties with countries including the People’s Republic of China, Namibia, the United Arab Emirates, North Korea, and Bahrain.

Oh, yeah, you know what they say about those hot North Korean chicks. All the starvation means there’s not a single warpig.

ozymandias42
12 years ago

Arks: Yes, but you shouldn’t call fat people manatees regardless of what gender they are. Just like you shouldn’t call gay people fags no matter what race they are.

Viscaria: Thankfully I’m a hairy-legged genderqueer who curses like a sailor and can’t get through half an hour’s conversation without mentioning rape culture, so I’m good.

theLaplaceDemon
theLaplaceDemon
12 years ago

Dear Roissy,

Using words like “prefrontal cortex” doesn’t make what your saying any less dumb. I promise.

Love,
Female Scientist Who Doesn’t Sleep With PUAs

KathleenB
KathleenB
12 years ago

Arks: I’ve had a really shit week (sick as a dog over Christmas will do that), but that line of BS made me laugh. Loudly. So thanks for that, and good luck with the going your own way – believe me when I tell you that the reaction of many women will be ‘don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.’

Monsieur sans Nom
Monsieur sans Nom
12 years ago

In the mismatched couple I witnessed, it was clear that whatever good will or tokens of desire that the handsome man had inspired in his pigwoman were completely squandered by his beta behavior. It was easy to see by her loathsome demeanor that his looks no longer held — if they ever did beyond the first couple of dates — any sway over her feelings for him. But being the big fat pigwoman she is, she knew she could not do better.

And that is why the generational increase in human beauty is a slow, painstaking process, punctuated by tragic reversals to a sloping brow norm (see: Appalachia, Detroit). Handsome betas are polluting the gene pool with pigwoman blood.

This as such an idiotic thing for a MAN to be saying about other men and whom they date. Why the hell would he even care if other men are dating women he finds unattractive??? This honestly sounds like it’s coming from a female point of view. It’s no surprise that women might feel irked when they see a guy then think is handsome with a woman they consider to be uglier than they are…….Maybe he’s a closet case or something. Who knows.

hellkell
hellkell
12 years ago

Isn’t Roissy in his early 40s? A bit old to be acting like he’s still in high school.

“LBFM” is disgusting. Do these guys think Stormfront’s too progressive on the subject of women or something? Because they’d fit right in.

Arks, if MGTOW is the superior philosophy, isn’t it time you hit the road?

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

But hellkell, negative attention from women is better than no attention at all. Just ask Om Nom!

Moewicus
Moewicus
12 years ago

The thing that strikes me the most about Roissy is how weirdly childish he is. Between “Pigwoman blood” and this one post about sluts that has this crude drawing of a woman at the center of a circle of floating penes, he really reminds me of the mentality of myself and the people I knew between the ages of 5 and 9. The difference is, the children were seldom or never so hateful.

Viscaria
Viscaria
12 years ago

I didn’t even notice my own blockquotes fail. Oops.

I hope one day I do encounter one of these PUA types, someone who figures I’ll be the perfect target, and then ruin his day 😀

Kendra, the bionic mommy
Kendra, the bionic mommy
12 years ago

lol David, they don’t know what they’re talking about. I just looked up more information, and many countries already have reciprocal arrangements made with the US to help each other enforce child support obligations without even having to go through the extradition process. The parent with unpaid arrears and a canceled passport can also face jail time in their new country of residence. If any of them ever managed to move to another country that didn’t have a reciprocal arrangement with the US, then they will have to remain as long as they have unpaid back support. As soon as they set foot on US soil again, they’re in trouble.

They also haven’t considered that moving to another country involves more than just packing a backpack and getting on an airplane. You’ll need a passport to get into the new country. You might need to learn another language. You’ll have to find a place to live, a place to work without any legal work documents, and quickly adapt to another culture. How many of the PUA’s that fantasize about deserting their families think these things through? I’m guessing zero. They might as well say “Nobody can make me pay child support, because I am going to hide under my bed where no one can ever find me!”.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
12 years ago

I hope for their sake it’s not China they’re planning to move to, because if they do they’ll find themselves competing with a workforce that’s better educated than they are, while probably not being able to speak the language. I do not see this going well for them.