Christmas came early for the MRAs this year. Earlier this week, a generous soul calling himself AgentOrange posted a 165 MB present online for them, an assortment of super-secret internet postings from a private forum connected to the RadFem Hub, which Mr. Orange collected by bravely going behind enemy lines and, er, screencapping a bunch of shit. As the OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE declared:
[B]oth feminists and MRAs alike, have been anxiously awaiting the promised complete files of screen shots and associated materials collected by Agent Orange.
These files are apparently so vile and incendiary that Mr. Orange has deemed it necessary to reveal the personal information of some of the RadFemHub commenters. Not to encourage anyone to stalk or harass or harm them, just so that those offended by them can do whatever it is people do when personal info is leaked on the internet that doesn’t involve stalking or harassing or harming them. Send them postcards?
But in any case there is no reason whatsoever to think that a group of really really really angry people who love making threats on the internet and think their opponents are as bad as Hitler could ever do anything that would be in any way problematic.
So, you might ask, what dastardly secrets do these new files disclose? Oddly, the PRESS RELEASE doesn’t actually specify. The AgentOrange website doesn’t say either. And the 165 MB download is just a bunch of files with no explanation.
But I have spent some time going through these files myself in a completely random manner, which is evidently what AgentOrange expects everyone who downloads the files to do. To be perfectly honest, I haven’t spent that much time on this. I’ve really been quite busy with other things. But I have spent some time. More than twenty minutes, anyway.
So let me share with you some preliminary findings.
Here, straight from the AgentOrange files, are some RadFems discussing a news story about a male midwife who thinks that mothers should embrace the pain of childbirth as a “rite of passage.” (Click on the teensy image on the right to get it full-sized.)
Apparently some of those RadFems don’t think this is a good idea! One of them says:
Does he even know what uterine cramps/contractions even feel like?
Another adds:
I read that and rolled my eyes. … If only it were possible to subject mister midwife (my ass) to the joyous pain of childbirth. I guess a swift kick to the balls is as close as he’s ever going to come to it.
Clearly suggesting that a male midwife suffer pain similar to what he suggests women should suffer is nothing short of GENOCIDE!
But wait, there’s more! Another woman writes:
There is no reason why women should have to endure pain like this in this day and age.
That sounds exactly like something HITLER would have said! (If you replace “women” with “Jews” and “no reason” with “every reason.”)
Still another adds:
This is phenomenally stupid, and completely out of step with current pain management theory and procedures.
Is there no end to this feminazi depravity!?
Oh, but there’s more, much more. In this thread — click the image to the right — the evil RadFems complain about guys trying to pick them up in a creepy manner. One of the ladies suggests that a good way to get the guys to leave you alone is to tell them you’re a widow.
You see now that feminism is all about DECEPTION!
Maybe it should be called Deceptionism!
Ok, ok, just one more. In a thread called “I’m mad as hell” — right over there on the right again — one commenter complains about getting a computer virus.
She’s so mad she says she’s even considering downloading Ubuntu and forgoing all Microsoft products, which are frequently targets of viruses! What? Huh? DOES NOT COMPUTE. BZZZZZZZ. LADY USING LINUX ERROR ERROR. *$^*$()*%(*$$$$$$$$. EMERGENCY SHUTDOWN.
CARRIER.
REBOOTING.
FLUSHING CACHE.
Ok. I’m back. Another commenter there says something about castrating guys who write viruses.
That does seem a little excessive. Though I don’t think she means it literally.
I will return to this topic later, after I recover.
In the meantime, if you want to see the most ridiculous comments on the matter from Reddit’s Men’s Rightsers, you can find some of them collected together here. Among the highlights:
This isn’t public shaming, its outing criminals that are planning your genocide.
A story of a plan of naziesque proportions is about to broken.
I think we can all agree that feminism inevitably heads down the road of male genocide.
MRAs, more melodramatic than emo kids.
Oh, and by the way, two of the Reddit quotes above come from a fellow known on Reddit as Sigi1, but who may be more familiar to Man Boobzers as Eoghan. Without clicking on the links, can you guess which two?
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Excellent, I had no idea they were made with gelatin.
Im shocked- SHOCKED!- that NWO’s understanding of how evidence works is as bad as his understanding of, well, everything else.
Again, so much wrong with so little effort. It’s like he’s a ninja of bullshit. Lazy bullshit, too.
MRAL, most people don’t debate NWO so much as point at him and laugh, I think. Now I personally agree that Meller is more fun to poke fun at, which is why I tend to pay more attention to him than to NWO, but hey, each to their own.
For some people who do seriously debate him though I think it’s because they think he might actually go out and hurt someone at some point, whereas Meller has clearly resigned himself to a life of wanking to his dolls and posting rants on the internet only.
Fluffy hot dogs, in other words. 🙂
Fun fact – I have never eaten a hot dog after seeing a documentary about how they’re made.
Plus, I think some of us are masochists and talking to NWO is an extension of that. ‘How hard can he make me facepalm today’ and all that.
Oooo… I missed this jem:
Remember; beating children with sticks is more civilized than raising and nurturing them to be thoughtful and critical thinkers.
“Children are the only minority that becomes their oppressors.”
~Solomon Short
I debate NWO for the same reason I scratch mosquito bites.
I know it won’t help, I know I’m not supposed to, but he makes my brain itch.
Mmmm… tea, hot from Russell’s Tea Pot.
With his complete lack of understanding of the concept of consent, I wouldn’t be surprised if he raped or sexually assaulted somebody in his life. That said, I personally doubt he’s ever gotten close enough to a woman to actually go through with it. The way he talks about “teasing” reads to me like observation from a distance rather than first-hand experience.
@Leni
“Again, so much wrong with so little effort. It’s like he’s a ninja of bullshit. Lazy bullshit, too.”
Well than explain it to me.
Everything has a different DNA code. Each is seperate and distinct. You could also explain where all the rocks and stuff came from as well.
Doesn’t the theory go something like all the matter in the universe was the size of a pea and kinda expanded and stuff like that.
Where’d that matter come from?
Why’d it expand?
How’d all that dead stuff make live stuff?
Why doesn’t it do it anymore?
As far as I know, new life ain’t popping up in the oceans and stuff. How come?
Pretty much everyhing NWO writes reads as if he’s The Man Who Fell To Earth on a really evil combination of acid and PCP.
NWO, you really need to go back to school. Like, starting with kindergarten when you learn to share your toys and not hit. After that there’s first grade and they’ll get you up to speed on reading and writing. Second grade you’ll learn about different languages and the countries of the world! Third grade: basic math and percentages! In fourth grade they’ll teach you to spell.
By the time you’re in fifth grade or so you’ll be able to start understanding the answers to questions like “how’d all that dead stuff make live stuff?”
Anyway, this answers NWO’s question about “why isn’t new life forming today?”
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CB/CB020.html
Evidence for why we don’t have superdogs, however, continues to elude scientists, with many of them simply claiming “But Buddy is a superdog, isn’t that right Buddywuddy?” while ruffling their dog’s ears.
@Holly Pervocracy
Not true, Holly. Now a days you’re taught the new math, than you’re taught the old math. Then you chooses which style of math suits you.
I know the “theory” which was taught. Or is it fact? You do know the difference?
NWO, these resources may help you:
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CE/CE420.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CE/CE440.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CE/CE441.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CB/CB020.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CB/CB000.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CB/CB010.html
http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CB/CB010_2.html
I have a bunch of links in moderation, NWO, that may help enlighten you about how evolution works.
By the time you’re in fifth grade or so you’ll be able to start understanding the answers to questions like “how’d all that dead stuff make live stuff?”
Holly, you owe me a soda! It’s all over my keyboard now. xD
So what’s the difference between old math and new math? Does old math use a slide rule?
Because, much like space, your ignorance knows no bounds.
The old math uses the beaten bodies of women who were disrespectful to men, obviously. How else are people supposed to count?
Okay, NWO’s older than I thought if he’s complaining about “the new math.”
The difference between a “theory” and a “fact” is that a fact is a direct observation, and a theory is an explanation of facts. So intelligent design is at best a theory also. But it’s a theory with a lot fewer facts supporting it.
Dude, where did this “feminists hate Christmas” thing come from? I’m too confused to mock it. Help me out here.
@clairedammit: Feminists are communists. Communists hate religion. Hence, feminists hate Christmas.