Christmas came early for the MRAs this year. Earlier this week, a generous soul calling himself AgentOrange posted a 165 MB present online for them, an assortment of super-secret internet postings from a private forum connected to the RadFem Hub, which Mr. Orange collected by bravely going behind enemy lines and, er, screencapping a bunch of shit. As the OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE declared:
[B]oth feminists and MRAs alike, have been anxiously awaiting the promised complete files of screen shots and associated materials collected by Agent Orange.
These files are apparently so vile and incendiary that Mr. Orange has deemed it necessary to reveal the personal information of some of the RadFemHub commenters. Not to encourage anyone to stalk or harass or harm them, just so that those offended by them can do whatever it is people do when personal info is leaked on the internet that doesn’t involve stalking or harassing or harming them. Send them postcards?
But in any case there is no reason whatsoever to think that a group of really really really angry people who love making threats on the internet and think their opponents are as bad as Hitler could ever do anything that would be in any way problematic.
So, you might ask, what dastardly secrets do these new files disclose? Oddly, the PRESS RELEASE doesn’t actually specify. The AgentOrange website doesn’t say either. And the 165 MB download is just a bunch of files with no explanation.
But I have spent some time going through these files myself in a completely random manner, which is evidently what AgentOrange expects everyone who downloads the files to do. To be perfectly honest, I haven’t spent that much time on this. I’ve really been quite busy with other things. But I have spent some time. More than twenty minutes, anyway.
So let me share with you some preliminary findings.
Here, straight from the AgentOrange files, are some RadFems discussing a news story about a male midwife who thinks that mothers should embrace the pain of childbirth as a “rite of passage.” (Click on the teensy image on the right to get it full-sized.)
Apparently some of those RadFems don’t think this is a good idea! One of them says:
Does he even know what uterine cramps/contractions even feel like?
Another adds:
I read that and rolled my eyes. … If only it were possible to subject mister midwife (my ass) to the joyous pain of childbirth. I guess a swift kick to the balls is as close as he’s ever going to come to it.
Clearly suggesting that a male midwife suffer pain similar to what he suggests women should suffer is nothing short of GENOCIDE!
But wait, there’s more! Another woman writes:
There is no reason why women should have to endure pain like this in this day and age.
That sounds exactly like something HITLER would have said! (If you replace “women” with “Jews” and “no reason” with “every reason.”)
Still another adds:
This is phenomenally stupid, and completely out of step with current pain management theory and procedures.
Is there no end to this feminazi depravity!?
Oh, but there’s more, much more. In this thread — click the image to the right — the evil RadFems complain about guys trying to pick them up in a creepy manner. One of the ladies suggests that a good way to get the guys to leave you alone is to tell them you’re a widow.
You see now that feminism is all about DECEPTION!
Maybe it should be called Deceptionism!
Ok, ok, just one more. In a thread called “I’m mad as hell” — right over there on the right again — one commenter complains about getting a computer virus.
She’s so mad she says she’s even considering downloading Ubuntu and forgoing all Microsoft products, which are frequently targets of viruses! What? Huh? DOES NOT COMPUTE. BZZZZZZZ. LADY USING LINUX ERROR ERROR. *$^*$()*%(*$$$$$$$$. EMERGENCY SHUTDOWN.
CARRIER.
REBOOTING.
FLUSHING CACHE.
Ok. I’m back. Another commenter there says something about castrating guys who write viruses.
That does seem a little excessive. Though I don’t think she means it literally.
I will return to this topic later, after I recover.
In the meantime, if you want to see the most ridiculous comments on the matter from Reddit’s Men’s Rightsers, you can find some of them collected together here. Among the highlights:
This isn’t public shaming, its outing criminals that are planning your genocide.
A story of a plan of naziesque proportions is about to broken.
I think we can all agree that feminism inevitably heads down the road of male genocide.
MRAs, more melodramatic than emo kids.
Oh, and by the way, two of the Reddit quotes above come from a fellow known on Reddit as Sigi1, but who may be more familiar to Man Boobzers as Eoghan. Without clicking on the links, can you guess which two?
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@Lauralot
Hey, I demanded the rest of the year off, and I’ve been sleeping till noon. They really couldn’t refuse.
The difference, NWO, is that no one is telling the dude with the gut would that it’s his moral duty as a male to endure it without pain-reducing drugs.
When I was a kid I was at my neighbor’s softball game when he, the pitcher, got nailed in the groin with a line drive. He dropped like a rock and was in so much pain he couldn’t even speak. They had to take him off the field on a stretcher and rush him to the hospital, while his mother was in tears.
If some woman on that field had suggested he shouldn’t receive pain relief because you know, at some point every person with testicles is going to feel the undeniably intense pain of injuring one, she would have utterly horrified every single sane person there. And probably provoked a very, very negative response from his mother.
I don’t think there would have been a lot of nodding heads and apologists. We could all plainly see that he was suffering immensely and in need of immediate medical attention, including pain relief. You know what that’s called? Empathy.
Lauralot – I hope your sister gets better soon. *hugs to her, unless hugs make the headache worse, in that case sympathetic looks from a respectful distance*
NWO, one big reason women are urged to forgo pain relief during childbirth is that some
misogynists want women to be punished for “Eve’s sin”. In the past, people thought it was sinful to give pain medication to women in labor because it would “go against God’s will”. I’ve also heard secular arguments against epidurals, too, but some of them are also misogynistic. I admit I do not know what it feels like to be kicked in the testicles, because I am a cis women. That’s irrelevant to the fact that I have been through childbirth, and I know that it hurt like hell.
@Holly Pervocracy
“Man gets beaten? BEAT WOMEN!
Man doesn’t get a job? WOMEN SHOULDN’T HAVE JOBS!
Man gets threatened? THREATEN WOMEN!”
And???
By law.
Man, by merit get’s education. Woman given State assistance.
Man, by merit gets job. Woman gets State quota.
Man is hit by woman. State sends man to jail if he retaliates.
Isn’t this enough.
Thanks. I’m happy to know she doesn’t have a tumor, but the fact that she’s still in such agony is terrible.
I’ve been looking up everything I can think of about any possible condition or remedy and sending it her way.
It is not like there is some kind of terrible pain reliever shortage! We have enough to give pain relievers to BOTH the people giving birth AND the people with gaping abdominal wounds! And also people with, like, stomach cramps and shit!
NWO: I’m an atheist and I go more all-out for Christmas than almost anyone I know: presents for everyone I love, multiple Nativities, an extensive collection of obscure Christmas music, charitable donations, lights throughout the house, and of course several trees (one large and three or four small). Because guess what? You don’t have to believe in God to like a traditional family holiday! Does that just blow your tiny mind?
Wait, giving pain relief to people who are in pain is somehow controversial now?
I never understood that whole “labor (or even menstrual) pain is natural, so it’s good and you shouldn’t take pain killers” notion. When someone experiences a spinal disc herniation, the pain they experience is also natural, so what gives?
NWO, do you realize that women are people? That they actually can and do feel pain, and aren’t just putting up a show to get attention?
@Anti-MRA:
I assume W.F Price is the head of The Spearhead, because he writes almost all the articles, but I could be wrong. You can read about him here
http://goodmenproject.com/featured-content/how-i-became-a-deadbeat-dad/
@Lauralot
Put a drop of vanilla extract on her tongue.
How many times do I have to say it.
Actually, affirmative action benefits men on the college level, because of how few men are attending college.
Guess who has a problem with that?
If these things were true, they’d be terrible, because:
Everyone should have the opportunity for higher education.
Everyone should have a fair chance at a job.
No one should hit anyone.
NOT BECAUSE NOT ENOUGH PEOPLE HAVE BEEN BEATEN.
I know you’ll pretend not to understand because you take pride in glorifying your own stupidity, but I really hope some bit of this penetrates your dumb ass skull.
Do you have empirical studies proving that scratching your balls hurts?
This is precisely where you and I differ. I say, if a person is screaming in pain and is obviously in distress, give him or her the fucking drugs, without examining whether someone has it worse. And denying women in childbirth pain relief on the ground that women MUST suffer just ’cause is disgusting and it is misogyny.
That has nothing to do with anything. No one should have to endure any kind of pain needlessly. And the fact that you view it as some kind of contest tells me you don’t know what severe pain feels like.
[blockquote]Do you have statistics on the male/female ration in the medical field?[/blockquote]
It’s nearing 50/50 according to this: https://www.aamc.org/download/75776/data/aibvol5no2.pdf
[blockquote]Sure do. Do you? Do you think because a coupla a dozen men control the wealth of the world any of that translates into wealth and power for men as a whole? Feminists lobbied for that give-away. It’s your world ladies. Tyranny of the majority. Since women are the majority, (the disposable male), every law enacted is your’s. Men can never out-vote women. Every law enacted is your doing.[/blockquote]
Not quite but it would seem more women are registered to vote and do actually vote than men. At least, on average.
http://www.infoplease.com/spot/womencensus1.html
See the voting section.
[blockquote]We used to live in a civilized society but no more, the “spare the rod spoil the child” motto has been replaced by feminist ideology. Marriage is dead, God has been killed, the State is our moral authority.[/blockquote]
I find it interesting that you believe that not using physical violence on our children has ruined them. Does this apply only to the female children?
As god was never alive I have a hard time believing he’s been killed. Care to cite your sources on that one? Fair’s fair after all.
@NWOSlave: I mentioned the vanilla to her. I really doubt that a drop of vanilla is going to do what ER pain meds wouldn’t, but I did pass the suggestion on.
@Kollege Messerschmitt
” Wait, giving pain relief to people who are in pain is somehow controversial now?
I never understood that whole “labor (or even menstrual) pain is natural”
It’s natural because it’s basically part of that cycle. As in part of nature. The term “natural” in the context doesn’t derive from misogyny. Sometimes, on rare occasions, everything isn’t about women being victims of the bad mans evil ways.
@Lauralot
Couldn’t hurt.
I can’t believe this thread has degenerated into “women shouldn’t get pain relief, because men experience pain.”
Seriously.
What?
Yeah, hence why I told her about it.
New rule: No one typing on a computer connected to the Internet gets to claim they make their decisions based on what’s “natural.”
I kind of want to try whatever NWO is smoking.
It’s just pounds upon pounds of weed, laced with hatred.
and maybe some embalming fluid
MRAL: I don’t. I value my brain cells in their current arrangement.
NWO: Pain hurts. Hurty things are bad. We should make bad things go away if we can. We can make pain go away. Therefore, pain relief for everyone who needs it!
Possibly PCP? That tends to make people mean.