Christmas came early for the MRAs this year. Earlier this week, a generous soul calling himself AgentOrange posted a 165 MB present online for them, an assortment of super-secret internet postings from a private forum connected to the RadFem Hub, which Mr. Orange collected by bravely going behind enemy lines and, er, screencapping a bunch of shit. As the OFFICIAL PRESS RELEASE declared:
[B]oth feminists and MRAs alike, have been anxiously awaiting the promised complete files of screen shots and associated materials collected by Agent Orange.
These files are apparently so vile and incendiary that Mr. Orange has deemed it necessary to reveal the personal information of some of the RadFemHub commenters. Not to encourage anyone to stalk or harass or harm them, just so that those offended by them can do whatever it is people do when personal info is leaked on the internet that doesn’t involve stalking or harassing or harming them. Send them postcards?
But in any case there is no reason whatsoever to think that a group of really really really angry people who love making threats on the internet and think their opponents are as bad as Hitler could ever do anything that would be in any way problematic.
So, you might ask, what dastardly secrets do these new files disclose? Oddly, the PRESS RELEASE doesn’t actually specify. The AgentOrange website doesn’t say either. And the 165 MB download is just a bunch of files with no explanation.
But I have spent some time going through these files myself in a completely random manner, which is evidently what AgentOrange expects everyone who downloads the files to do. To be perfectly honest, I haven’t spent that much time on this. I’ve really been quite busy with other things. But I have spent some time. More than twenty minutes, anyway.
So let me share with you some preliminary findings.
Here, straight from the AgentOrange files, are some RadFems discussing a news story about a male midwife who thinks that mothers should embrace the pain of childbirth as a “rite of passage.” (Click on the teensy image on the right to get it full-sized.)
Apparently some of those RadFems don’t think this is a good idea! One of them says:
Does he even know what uterine cramps/contractions even feel like?
Another adds:
I read that and rolled my eyes. … If only it were possible to subject mister midwife (my ass) to the joyous pain of childbirth. I guess a swift kick to the balls is as close as he’s ever going to come to it.
Clearly suggesting that a male midwife suffer pain similar to what he suggests women should suffer is nothing short of GENOCIDE!
But wait, there’s more! Another woman writes:
There is no reason why women should have to endure pain like this in this day and age.
That sounds exactly like something HITLER would have said! (If you replace “women” with “Jews” and “no reason” with “every reason.”)
Still another adds:
This is phenomenally stupid, and completely out of step with current pain management theory and procedures.
Is there no end to this feminazi depravity!?
Oh, but there’s more, much more. In this thread — click the image to the right — the evil RadFems complain about guys trying to pick them up in a creepy manner. One of the ladies suggests that a good way to get the guys to leave you alone is to tell them you’re a widow.
You see now that feminism is all about DECEPTION!
Maybe it should be called Deceptionism!
Ok, ok, just one more. In a thread called “I’m mad as hell” — right over there on the right again — one commenter complains about getting a computer virus.
She’s so mad she says she’s even considering downloading Ubuntu and forgoing all Microsoft products, which are frequently targets of viruses! What? Huh? DOES NOT COMPUTE. BZZZZZZZ. LADY USING LINUX ERROR ERROR. *$^*$()*%(*$$$$$$$$. EMERGENCY SHUTDOWN.
CARRIER.
REBOOTING.
FLUSHING CACHE.
Ok. I’m back. Another commenter there says something about castrating guys who write viruses.
That does seem a little excessive. Though I don’t think she means it literally.
I will return to this topic later, after I recover.
In the meantime, if you want to see the most ridiculous comments on the matter from Reddit’s Men’s Rightsers, you can find some of them collected together here. Among the highlights:
This isn’t public shaming, its outing criminals that are planning your genocide.
A story of a plan of naziesque proportions is about to broken.
I think we can all agree that feminism inevitably heads down the road of male genocide.
MRAs, more melodramatic than emo kids.
Oh, and by the way, two of the Reddit quotes above come from a fellow known on Reddit as Sigi1, but who may be more familiar to Man Boobzers as Eoghan. Without clicking on the links, can you guess which two?
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I had calluses when I worked at a boathouse as a teenager, and again when I worked on the ambulance.
I would talk about the calluses I got working in the military, but NWO already said incredibly hateful things about how great I must have felt knowing all the men were there to die for me, so I’m not going to go there.
@Holly Pervocracy
Maybe you should have done just because he is a man. Too good to actually do something nice for a man just because?
Also, congratulations, NWO, that is THE ONLY time you upset me. Bravo?
I have guitar calluses right now!
Also, depressingly annoyed that I know more theology than NWO. Don’t you study the Bible you claimed to believe in? When I was a Christian I read at least one chapter every day.
Maybe you should have done just because he is a man. Too good to actually do something nice for a man just because?”
Why not because he is a human you care about? What does it have to have to do with sex or gender?
Also, I could randomly wash men’s feet, but don’t you think that would be kind of fucking weird?
Wait, helping someone care for a painful infection isn’t “something nice?”
I do a lot of nice things for him because I love him and he does nice things for me. Once again, you’re the only one bringing gender into it.
My Gran has calluses on her hands from years of hauling buckets of coal up and down the stairs.
Wait, is she secretely a man? She identifies as female, and I’ve seen her naked, so this is a bit of a revelation, but I guess if Slavey says so…
@ozymandias42
Would you like me to copy and paste like you?
NWO – You don’t copy-paste now? You wanna go here?
And you know, at least having an idea of where passages are in the Bible are important to that copy-pasting she’s doing
Have you ever read the Bible, NWO?
What’s an “ain’t a man alive that’s witnessed a woman do any kind of labor” and to whom, exactly, does it belong?
NWO, there’s nothing wrong with copy and pasting, so long as:
1) You actually understand the things you’re copy-pasting and can connect them to your argument
and
2) You admit it’s a copy-paste, and don’t pretend you wrote the Bible yourself
@CassandraSays
Should I take your word at face value? Yea right! Everyone here has experienced every occupation, oppression, hardship in all of recorded history by the tender age of 20. Everyones a genius, has infinite knowlege of every subject. Everyones been to the end of the universe and is back to tell all.
In the story of Jesus and the adulterous woman, he was a white knight. MRA Jesus would have been all about stoning her. I really enjoyed “Supply Side Jesus” by Al Franken. Now I’m thinking up all of the things MRA Jesus would have said and done.
The Story of Feeding the Multitude:
Jesus said, “No women should eat the fish or bread. They weren’t on the boats risking their lives to catch fish!”
Let the Children come to me:
Little children were going up to Jesus to have him lay hands on them. He looked around and said, “I’m sick of these entitled women letting their kids parade around their savior. Where are their fathers, in prison for not paying child support?”
Lazaras:
Lazaras got sick and died. Mary and Martha asked Jesus for help. He told them he’s tired of whiny women asking him for favors rather than bringing people back from the dead on their own.
Jesus turns water in wine:
Jesus was griping at a wedding that another man had broken the marriage strike. Someone noticed they were out of wine. Jesus turned water into wine on the condition that the women there agree that marriage is a sham for men.
Jesus helps a demon possessed man:
A man came to Jesus for help because he was possessed by demons. Jesus told him he was simply corrupted by feminism and had him take a red pill. The man felt much better and vowed to stay away from all Ameriskanks in Jerusalem.
@zhinxy
“Have you ever read the Bible, NWO?”
yes
Uh, NWO, I didn’t just copy-paste random Biblical passages. If I did it would look like this:
“The sons of Judah; Pharez, Hezron, and Carmi, and Hur, and Shobal. And Reaiah the son of Shobal begat Jahath; and Jahath begat Ahumai, and Lahad. These are the families of the Zorathites. And these were of the father of Etam; Jezreel, and Ishma, and Idbash: and the name of their sister was Hazelelponi: And Penuel the father of Gedor, and Ezer the father of Hushah. These are the sons of Hur, the firstborn of Ephratah, the father of Bethlehem. And Ashur the father of Tekoa had two wives, Helah and Naarah.”
I remembered and looked up passages that were actually related to my topic, i.e., the Bible is remarkably progressive about gender issues, especially given its time period, and “women should submit to men” is a vast oversimplification of the Biblical view. If you have texts that argue against my point, do share.
What if you learn stuff by watching reruns of COPS? Does that count? If so I have learned a LOT.
I’m curious as to how old you think I am, Slavey, that I might have a grandmother who is under the age of 20.
(Well, not really, I already know that you’re irrational and completely out of touch with reality.)
@Kendra, the bionic mommy
It’s hip to mock Jesus and Christians! You’re progressive! The MSM says it’s great!
My God. Simply incapable of learning, he is.
I pity the pour souls who had to teach him at school.
? Yea right! Everyone here has experienced every occupation, oppression, hardship in all of recorded history by the tender age of 20. Everyones a genius, has infinite knowlege of every subject. Everyones been to the end of the universe and is back to tell all.”
Citations?
Also, after the end of the universe, there is only a note saying to wait for the next expansion pack, and then it will be available for purchase.
Are we copy-pasting the Bible now? I want to join in!
“John 4:8: His disciples had gone into the town to buy food.”
@CassandraSays
“(Well, not really, I already know that you’re irrational and completely out of touch with reality.)”
Confirmation that everyone here knows everything. Words falling from a womans mouth, or keyboard in this case equals truth. Your superiority is confirmed.
I don’t have infinite knowledge! I’m still not particularly clear on algebra, much less any higher math; my biology, chemistry, and physics knowledge is woefully lacking; I have taken half-a-semester total of economics; I’ve read none of the major philosophers besides John Stuart Mill after about 1000 CE; I have little Latin and less Greek.