NOTE: The title of this post is sarcastic. If you found this post through a Google search because you’re actually looking for tips on how to exploit desperate young women, you’re a piece of shit, and this post is not for you. Go away, and go fuck yourself.
Fellas! Want sex, but don’t have the money to shell out on prostitutes? Hate the time and effort it takes to talk a non-professional sex-having women into having sex with you? A recent post by Advocatus Diaboli on the always delightful In Mala Fide offered an elegant solution for horny but frugal men. In a post titled Pooning on a Tight Budget, AD explained the technique that has worked for him:
Getting poor, but good-looking, young girls (18-23) to have sex with [you] in return for some timely financial help.
Turns out that women who are poor and desperate can be exploited for your own sexy purposes!
Of course, it’s not always quite as easy as it might seem.
I should be upfront that getting amateur women to have sex for money can be tricky as most of them believe that they are not whores. Moreover, poor young women often have “boyfriends” and white knight orbiters. So I created a set of filters and rules to screen out the most problematic types.
According to AD, all you have to do is to:
Avoid all girls who have obvious and serious drug and mental health issues or have lived on the street for over 6 weeks at a stretch.
Happily for you, that still leaves lots of girls ripe for the picking! AD suggests you focus your attention on:
Freshly homeless young girls, especially those who hangout in mixed groups.
The safest ones are those who are into pot, drumming, dreadlocks et cetera. You can find them in many larger cities in the spring and summer. While I would never trust them with any significant amount of money, many are reasonably decent human beings.
You might not think you’d have much in common to talk about with these women – what with them being “reasonably decent human beings” and you being a “completely reprehensible pile of shit” – but you’d be surprised.
Strike up a conversation with them, engage them and see where it leads. But you must make it plainly obvious that you are interested in them sexually, but that all favors require reciprocation. Once you get to know them, a decent round of drinks, snacks, money for pot, a small necessary item of clothing, decent dinner with booze will almost guarantee you a good lay (or at least a couple of BJs).
And if you crunch the numbers you’ll see it’s really quite a frugal solution.
Your initial financial hit for hanging out with them is very small, and once they are sleeping with you.. it will often work to about $30-60 (cash equivalent or cash) per session. You may also get freebies..
But girls don’t necessarily have to be literally homeless to be desperate enough to sleep with you for money. Nope! You may also find great cost-savings from targeting:
Girls who are not homeless, but are just hanging on.
How do you find these lovely ladies? Keep an eye out for women working really shitty jobs that don’t pay shit! You’ll find them conveniently located
in smaller retail stores or businesses that pay minimum wage with no tips. Build a rapport and be fairly upfront about your interest, but do not come across as desperate. Go to her workplace and talk to her when you are in that area, but do not stalk her.
Yep, it turns out that even desperate women can be creeped out. So play it cool! Stalking’s for fools!
There’s another possible hurdle: other dudes.
Such women often have “boyfriends,” however, they are often just as poor or poorer than her. You can get pussy as long as you are firm about the need for reciprocation. This category of girls might be more willing to give BJs than having ‘real sex.’ But do you really care?
Just remember to keep to your budget!
Restrict your help to less than $200 at any one time AND only after she has put out a couple of times.
And then there’s AD’s favorite category of desperate women:
Girls who are poor, but not homeless and have no “boyfriends” + have moved to the city within the last eight weeks.
You have hit the jackpot!
Just don’t get carried away. Remember: you’re in charge, and she should know it!
Remember these girls can become de facto GFs, but do not restrict yourself to one. While you do not have to rub it in their faces, they should know that you are always looking around for a better deal. But treat them a bit better than type 1 and 2, they do give more per dollar spent on them.
Your accountant will be so, so proud of you!
Just remember:
They will play by your rules as long as they are not too dehumanizing, and they are often cheaper than professional whores.
Now that’s a motto to live by!
Amazingly, not all of the readers of In Mala Fide appreciated AD’s little treatise.
Simon invoked the c-word, before tossing in some racism:
Mate you are one deadset sad cunt. It’s no surprise to know you’re Indian.
Cathater broke out the other c-word:
Pretty damn creepy. You sound like you have no soul. Actually, you might be the first member of a new species: the perfectly rational, purely selfish utility-maximizing agent (Homo Economicus) that Austrian economists and Randroids have always droned on and on about.
Yes, I was as surprised as you are to read an actually reasonable critique of the post on In Mala Fide.
Don’t worry, though, the rest of the comments mostly lived up to the foul standards of the blog.
Ryu worried about the old slippery slope. If you start by suggesting that PUAs target homeless women, the next thing you know they’ll advocate sex with children! And then down the slippery slope you’ll slide:
This is the direction that PU takes one in. I’m surprised that there haven’t been any PUAs who say that during a dry spell we should go to gay bars and pick up men. Just to keep your dick wet, you know.
Savrola returned to the theme of race:
There’s a problem WNs have yet to deal with. Well off second-generation foreigners like AD taking advantage of your impoverished women of older native stock, after they’ve taken your jobs.
Can’t keep ‘em here, can’t send ‘em back.
What to do?
Blog proprietor Ferdinand Bardamu waded in to take a shot at all the “white knights” sticking up for the gals.
ROFLMAO at all these white knights. …
If you want to blame someone, blame the morally debased white women who would rather blow a stranger for $200 then work honestly (pull yourself up by your bootstraps, slob! nobody owes you anything!).
We’re living in Soviet Amerika (and Soviet Kanada). All of your daughters are whores or will become whores, soon as the price tag gets high enough.
Meanwhile, Stoner With a Boner, who sometimes graces the comments section here with his always trenchant wisdom, took a stand on behalf of the real victims here: dudes paying their own hard-earned money to icky ladies for sex.
Personally, I find the idea of clocking more hours at a job I hate just to hand $200 to a prostitute who would probably leave me dying in the street rather than help degrading.
Men, the forgotten victims once again.
This post contains:
quoting a dictionary definition to prove a ‘point’. the lamest response anybody can have to anything.
Because being a prostitute means you’re also a bad person?
Sorry, I know two professional doms and also have several male friends that sometimes avail themselves of prostitutes and if these are the quality of people you are finding, perhaps the local drug park isn’t where you should be looking for women.
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The thing that’s so dumb about this is that they think other people don’t know they are slimeballs. I used to work a job like the one they described and in a store where I was alone. After having moved to a new city, no less. If this jackass thinks he’s the first guy to think about creeping around store clerks because they are essentially captive and *have* to be nice to you, he has apparently never worked in retail.
Things like dignity and self-respect can be luxuries if you are on the edge of starvation or don’t have a secure place to sleep or are starting to go through heroin withdrawal. I don’t see why any person has to literally sacrifice their life in the name of some ridiculous social norm of “honor”. Actually, I would say someone who is willing to make difficult decisions to stay alive or to remove themselves from an abusive situation (like Holly) potentially has more self-respect than somebody who says, “Sleeping behind a dumpster??? Ew! I guess I’ll just keel over and die!” It means they value staying alive and that they haven’t totally given up yet– that they have respect for their own life– which is definitely something given the hardships homeless people and the very poor have to face
I want to second all the hugs to Holly, that is a really rough thing to go through, and I am very glad you are out of there and doing well.
I won’t go too much into it but I had a somewhat similar situation happen to me in college; luckily I never had to resort to anything like survival sex, and I wasn’t ever truly homeless. I also went to college early, and my mother, although not quite as abusive as yours, is an extremely anxious person who tends to have weird blow-ups every so often. I got so frightened of her my senior year of college that I ended up basically living on campus for weeks at a time. By “living on campus” I mean sleeping behind dorm couches, washing in academic building bathrooms, and stealing food from fridges. I got so sick of the non-safety of that (couldn’t sleep due to being scared about getting assaulted by drunk kids) that I got over any pride I had left and lived in a professor’s lab that I had keys to for my last month. (I did go home occasionally at weird hours, typically the morning before my mom woke up, to get new clothes or a jar of peanut butter or something.)
Though I wasn’t living on the streets or anything, and I was definitely privileged in that I 1. technically could have returned to a home and 2. could take advantage of a fancy college’s infrastructure, I gained 100x more respect for homeless people. I have no idea how they can deal with the sleeping thing or the constant and repetitive indignity of having to scrounge for food. It is an eternally frightening life and the most horrible part of it to me was that it turns your life into something more akin to an animal’s than a person’s. Your entire life gets compressed down into trying to find opportunities to get food, shelter, warmth, etc. The idea of anyone taking advantage of a person in that sort of situation is completely sickening in ways I don’t even know how to begin to articulate.
Anyway, again, thank you for sharing that, Holly, and I am so happy for you that things worked out eventually.
comment #32 was extremely insightful, I’m surprised Mr. Futrelle didn’t quote it….
a, well, I guess it wasn’t past of his “agenda.”
making fun of assholes? it might not have been.
Isn’t standard glibertarian ethics “if a business practice is unethical, expose and boycott it”?
Not “if a business practice is unethical, oh well.”
……………….
Yup. It’s a terrible abdication of personal responsibility, though.
Also that is exactly why No-Name can go stick his head in a toilet, because he clearly doesn’t understand the choices you have to make when the entire structure of a normal life disappears out from under you. It is a lot more like Saw than you would think, bro. You never really get to “agree” to do anything– you just go in whatever direction that can ease your fear a little bit.
the glibertarian argument usually ends up closer to ‘if the business practice is unethical, the market would have already exposed it. the fact that it hasn’t proves your concerns are invalid.’
see the totally idiotic response to the nebulous state of the new lightbulb standards john cole quotes here:
http://www.balloon-juice.com/2011/12/19/worst-of-both-worlds/
Kladle – *hugs* and I’m glad you’re out of there.
And I just want to repeat this because yeah, that’s what it’s like. (I ran away a few times total, although I only had survival sex the one time, so I’ve spent a few months altogether on the run while under 18.) It’s not like being an independent businessperson calmly considering a decision.
When “self-respect” is down to “I’m going to eat strangers’ leftovers out of the trash, but not the ones with bite marks,” it’s ridiculous to get on the glibertarian high horse and act like survival sex is exactly the same thing as a rich homed kid taking a part-time job for some extra cash.
Then again, these are the same guys who would claim to never understand why someone would run away from just emotional abuse, because can’t you just ignore it? They like to think they’ve evolved far beyond petty human emotions.
I don’t for an instant believe you can know this about yourself. Sex makes me feel deeply, deeply vulnerable and I will only share it with people I know very well, who I feel I can trust. I do not trust easily.
But I’ve also lived a very privileged life. I’ve never been on the streets. I’ve never wondered where my next meal might come from. I’ve never worried about freezing in the cold all by myself. I have never had to make a choice between doing something I don’t want to do and fucking dying, and I get the impression that you haven’t either. How the fuck could either of us possibly know how we would react?
i’ve never been homeless but that always struck me as one of the most degrading parts of it, so if i see someone going through the trash like that i’ll always be like ‘you shouldnt have to do that, can i give you some money’
Holly, honey, so many hugs.
The interesting thing about that story in relation to the OP though is that I’m willing to bet that most of the dudes commenting in that thread would read Holly’s story and argue that in fact she was exploiting the older guy rather than the other way around.
Sharculese – I’m sure the quote is some fun silliness from Reason, but John Cole gets my blood way up when he talks about even non-glib libbers so I’m not gonna click XD
It’s always *quotes libertarian making stupid argument.* Has good point about the argument being stupid. See, this is why they should go move to libertarian fantasy land and leave us normal people alone and aren’t they stupid yes they are and meanwhile. He’s one of those liberals for whom libertarians function as both running joke and boogeyman. We’re ridiculously irrelevant, yet somehow there’s always a danger we’ll get our way.
lol, i can appreciate that. in his defense, he is a late life convert and an ex-27 percenter, so i understand why he gets so aggressive.
it was reason. and one of the second-stringers, not even gillespie or welch:
THAT IS EXACTLY HOW THE POSTS ENDS!
in all fairness, i think you can agree that nick gillespie should go live somewhere where he doesnt bother the rest of us, right?
he is a late life convert and an ex-27 percenter, so i understand why he gets so aggressive.
Yup. Still, I’ve learned to just let him be. And if I COULD move to libertarian unicorn land, I totally WOULD! XD
If legislators, regulators, environmentalists, and even the industry all agree this mandate is a good idea, why would consumers object? Maybe because the whole premise of the policy is that their choices do not matter because they are too stupid to know their own interests.
AH! I read that one. I think that was Sullum. Yeah, he’s pretty head-desk inducing.
“THAT IS EXACTLY HOW THE POSTS ENDS!”
HAHAHHAHA.
“in all fairness, i think you can agree that nick gillespie should go live somewhere where he doesnt bother the rest of us, right?”
Oh, totally. . I think we should tell him he won the right to be in a special secret smart people panel to develop the future of freedom. On an island.
Actually, since Balko left, I think we can and probably should do that with the whole Reason staff. Hmm.
Wow, what a fucking vile piece of shit. Just the knowledge that a guy who put that much thought into ways he could take advantage of homeless girls exists makes me feel violently ill. And if even MRAs think he’s creepy, you know he’s gotta be bad.
Even evil has standards, after all.
Holly and Kladle: I’m so sorry you had to go through this. You have my utmost respect; not only for surviving those situations, but also for talking about them in the presence of sociopaths like NWO and Mr. Om Nom Nom.
*offers hugs*
I honestly don’t understand the attitude of people like MSN. “The world is bad and people use each other, so I don’t give a shit about others! That’s life lololol suck it up.”
I don’t know if you think it makes you look edgy and mature (it doesn’t), but I guess it’s other people’s fault for, i dunno, being so stupid to choose to be born less privileged than you? I mean, they should just grow a thicker skin, amirite?
Seriously dude, just go back to 4chan.
” I remember the shitty landlord who offered me a couple of month’s free rent if I’d promise to be enthusiastic and discreet. Because he was married, you see. ”
One of mine once knocked on my door and, when I opened it, randomly grabbed my crotch. Not only was he married, he was my friend’s father. He stood there and banged on the door for a while after I shut it in his face, and didn’t leave until I yelled at him that I was going to tell the daughter.
Actually, since Balko left, I think we can and probably should do that with the whole Reason staff. Hmm.
i was holding out for the possibility there was some unknown writing for them who wasnt pure glibertarian asshole, but if there isn’t, ya, basically.
Oh, totally. . I think we should tell him he won the right to be in a special secret smart people panel to develop the future of freedom. On an island.
also that they have really good deals on leather
@Cassandra: Yech! What a creep! What the hell gives him the right to randomly grab someones genitals? Weirdo.
CassandraSays:
The fuck? That’s seriously not okay. Sorry you had to deal with such an asshole… and from what you said, I guess it’s not that unreasonable to think that he did the same to others too, urgh…
*hugs Holly*
NWO, you honestly do have my sympathy; no one should be forced to choose between crime and food. I’m glad you’re in a better place in your life now.
I am so lucky that I have never had to have sex for food or lodging. :/ Little things to give thanks for…