NOTE: The title of this post is sarcastic. If you found this post through a Google search because you’re actually looking for tips on how to exploit desperate young women, you’re a piece of shit, and this post is not for you. Go away, and go fuck yourself.
Fellas! Want sex, but don’t have the money to shell out on prostitutes? Hate the time and effort it takes to talk a non-professional sex-having women into having sex with you? A recent post by Advocatus Diaboli on the always delightful In Mala Fide offered an elegant solution for horny but frugal men. In a post titled Pooning on a Tight Budget, AD explained the technique that has worked for him:
Getting poor, but good-looking, young girls (18-23) to have sex with [you] in return for some timely financial help.
Turns out that women who are poor and desperate can be exploited for your own sexy purposes!
Of course, it’s not always quite as easy as it might seem.
I should be upfront that getting amateur women to have sex for money can be tricky as most of them believe that they are not whores. Moreover, poor young women often have “boyfriends” and white knight orbiters. So I created a set of filters and rules to screen out the most problematic types.
According to AD, all you have to do is to:
Avoid all girls who have obvious and serious drug and mental health issues or have lived on the street for over 6 weeks at a stretch.
Happily for you, that still leaves lots of girls ripe for the picking! AD suggests you focus your attention on:
Freshly homeless young girls, especially those who hangout in mixed groups.
The safest ones are those who are into pot, drumming, dreadlocks et cetera. You can find them in many larger cities in the spring and summer. While I would never trust them with any significant amount of money, many are reasonably decent human beings.
You might not think you’d have much in common to talk about with these women – what with them being “reasonably decent human beings” and you being a “completely reprehensible pile of shit” – but you’d be surprised.
Strike up a conversation with them, engage them and see where it leads. But you must make it plainly obvious that you are interested in them sexually, but that all favors require reciprocation. Once you get to know them, a decent round of drinks, snacks, money for pot, a small necessary item of clothing, decent dinner with booze will almost guarantee you a good lay (or at least a couple of BJs).
And if you crunch the numbers you’ll see it’s really quite a frugal solution.
Your initial financial hit for hanging out with them is very small, and once they are sleeping with you.. it will often work to about $30-60 (cash equivalent or cash) per session. You may also get freebies..
But girls don’t necessarily have to be literally homeless to be desperate enough to sleep with you for money. Nope! You may also find great cost-savings from targeting:
Girls who are not homeless, but are just hanging on.
How do you find these lovely ladies? Keep an eye out for women working really shitty jobs that don’t pay shit! You’ll find them conveniently located
in smaller retail stores or businesses that pay minimum wage with no tips. Build a rapport and be fairly upfront about your interest, but do not come across as desperate. Go to her workplace and talk to her when you are in that area, but do not stalk her.
Yep, it turns out that even desperate women can be creeped out. So play it cool! Stalking’s for fools!
There’s another possible hurdle: other dudes.
Such women often have “boyfriends,” however, they are often just as poor or poorer than her. You can get pussy as long as you are firm about the need for reciprocation. This category of girls might be more willing to give BJs than having ‘real sex.’ But do you really care?
Just remember to keep to your budget!
Restrict your help to less than $200 at any one time AND only after she has put out a couple of times.
And then there’s AD’s favorite category of desperate women:
Girls who are poor, but not homeless and have no “boyfriends” + have moved to the city within the last eight weeks.
You have hit the jackpot!
Just don’t get carried away. Remember: you’re in charge, and she should know it!
Remember these girls can become de facto GFs, but do not restrict yourself to one. While you do not have to rub it in their faces, they should know that you are always looking around for a better deal. But treat them a bit better than type 1 and 2, they do give more per dollar spent on them.
Your accountant will be so, so proud of you!
Just remember:
They will play by your rules as long as they are not too dehumanizing, and they are often cheaper than professional whores.
Now that’s a motto to live by!
Amazingly, not all of the readers of In Mala Fide appreciated AD’s little treatise.
Simon invoked the c-word, before tossing in some racism:
Mate you are one deadset sad cunt. It’s no surprise to know you’re Indian.
Cathater broke out the other c-word:
Pretty damn creepy. You sound like you have no soul. Actually, you might be the first member of a new species: the perfectly rational, purely selfish utility-maximizing agent (Homo Economicus) that Austrian economists and Randroids have always droned on and on about.
Yes, I was as surprised as you are to read an actually reasonable critique of the post on In Mala Fide.
Don’t worry, though, the rest of the comments mostly lived up to the foul standards of the blog.
Ryu worried about the old slippery slope. If you start by suggesting that PUAs target homeless women, the next thing you know they’ll advocate sex with children! And then down the slippery slope you’ll slide:
This is the direction that PU takes one in. I’m surprised that there haven’t been any PUAs who say that during a dry spell we should go to gay bars and pick up men. Just to keep your dick wet, you know.
Savrola returned to the theme of race:
There’s a problem WNs have yet to deal with. Well off second-generation foreigners like AD taking advantage of your impoverished women of older native stock, after they’ve taken your jobs.
Can’t keep ‘em here, can’t send ‘em back.
What to do?
Blog proprietor Ferdinand Bardamu waded in to take a shot at all the “white knights” sticking up for the gals.
ROFLMAO at all these white knights. …
If you want to blame someone, blame the morally debased white women who would rather blow a stranger for $200 then work honestly (pull yourself up by your bootstraps, slob! nobody owes you anything!).
We’re living in Soviet Amerika (and Soviet Kanada). All of your daughters are whores or will become whores, soon as the price tag gets high enough.
Meanwhile, Stoner With a Boner, who sometimes graces the comments section here with his always trenchant wisdom, took a stand on behalf of the real victims here: dudes paying their own hard-earned money to icky ladies for sex.
Personally, I find the idea of clocking more hours at a job I hate just to hand $200 to a prostitute who would probably leave me dying in the street rather than help degrading.
Men, the forgotten victims once again.
This post contains:
Instructions for how to get women who don’t want to fuck you to actually fuck you as cheaply as possible? Almost the definition of a sad, pathetic loser: Not only can you not get a woman to fuck you without paying her, you can’t even afford the modest price required to hire a legitimate professional. I can see why you’re so bitter given your station in life, but women aren’t your problem.
Kavette, you and Kave live in Toronto, right? If so I think your apartment building is on my street!
Holly – when you’re in a terrible situation sometimes all you have is a selection of shitty choices. It sounds like you picked the least shitty choice possible. I’m glad it worked out OK 🙂
Kavette I applaud your efforts in helping homeless men, your decision to allow those with sexual convictions into your apartment block must have been a hard one. Homeless charities and those that help the homeless have my absolute respect. The recent St mungo’s charity report on the state of homeless support in my country is shameful and highlights the need for what you are doing.
link http://www.mungos.org/press_office/1002_battered-broken-bereft-new-rough-sleeping-report
@NWO – So you’d rather die than have sex with someone who repulses you, who’s taking advantage of your poverty to use you as a sex toy. It’s true, having survival sex is horrible – something no one should have to go through.
Oh wait, some of your other comments seem to contradict this position. Are you really sure that you don’t consider it a viable option for yourself? What about doing it out of gratitude for the kindness of the man (or woman) who offers you some food, shelter, or cash in exchange? If you’re a young, reasonably attractive guy, then you’re lucky to have those opportunities – they’re not available to everyone, you know. Older, less attractive people have to turn to crime or panhandling to get by. Are you sure that you wouldn’t want to offer a nice BJ to a businessman who was prepared to, with his hard-earned money, buy you an entire meal at Wendy’s?
savagebeard – That would be evil sodomy. So no. It would be okay for him to sleep with a woman for that, but that is PREPOSTEROUS, because it would NEVER happen that a woman would sleep with a man in exchange for giving him food, cash or shelter. probably be okay for a woman to sleep with a man for the same thing though, cause hetero sex with men women don’t really want to sleep with, usually in exchange for for goods and services, is just the nature and purpose of women.
Kavette, now you’ve got me suspecting that by “swear allegiance to feminism” NWO means “don’t be a sex offender.” (Also, that’s a wonderful thing for you to do.)
Welcome to the world people! Where people exploit people for fun and profit………
I thought of this idea long before it was posted on any blogs. No reason why rich gay men couldn’t do this very same thing with homeless men(preferably younger men). But if I were homeless I’d rather be dead than be a punk to some rich gay guy! I doubt you’d have much luck with women who are poor but employed, TBH. ANNNNNNNNNND, lest we forget, she could always accuse you of rape!(this would so not work if the homeless person was male though) Even if she agreed to sleep with you for food/shelter/clothing/spending cash.
But ladies, it’s up to YOU to have the self-respect to refuse to barter sex for money; even if you’re desperate(as in homeless).
Shut the hell up and stop defining other people’s self respect. Sex workers are fine at respecting themselves without your approval, dumb ass. Have the self respect to stop trolling for attention.
Om Nom Nom, can it. How about these dudes have the self-respect not to prey on women in a tight spot?
So if I respected myself, I would have died at 16.
Lotta good that’d do me. Or anyone else! I went on to become an EMT and work in an ER, and I’ve helped thousands of sick and injured people because I lived past 16. I think I can take some self-respect from that.
Y’know this “it’s up to you” shit about women’s behavior really burns my bacon. Or hot butters my manatee, if you will.
It’s always up to us, and it’s getting really fucking old.
I was kinda being sarcastic, Zhinxy.
What I’m saying is that if you are female, homeless, and not a sex worker nor wish to be one, but you sleep with a man in exchange for him boarding you for a night or 2 and giving you food/clothes/money and THEN have regrets and then try to blame him for what you agreed to do, then you’re just a crybaby. I AM NOT vilifying sex workers, I’m trying to advocate personal responsibility which means not blaming others when you willingly do something with them that you wish you hadn’t.
Ha ha ha, he even threw in the ol’ “any time a man and a woman have sex, she false-rape-accuses him” thing.
I don’t know what a rich woman would have to gain by false-accusing a homeless man, but hey. Just have to remember to keep pushing that story in your pathetic attempt to silence and cast doubt on rape survivors.
I find it darkly humerous that the commenters on In Mala Fide find the OP offensive not because it’s wrong, but because its misogyny transgresses against their racism. Still kills a little bit more of my faith in humanity, though.
Om Nom, what do false allegations have to do with anything? Oh, right, nothing.
Especially because Owly and Sans Nom here seem to be eager to prove that there really is a place to go that’s uglier than the OP.
Nom’s idea of a woman’s (or girl’s) “choice” reminds me of those Saw movies. Oh sure, you’re locked in a dungeon with a chain around your leg, but you have only yourself to blame if you make some wacky decision to HURT yourself! That was your totally free choice!
It’s your own fault you didn’t pursue your perfectly viable “starve to death” and “go to jail” options.
Mr. Futrelle,
If your gonna quote me, have the integrity to quote the whole post:
Stoner With a Boner December 7, 2011 at 10:16 pm
“Are my ideas any more “reprehensible” or “inhumane” than game? If not- then please shut up.
Otherwise tell me what makes them more “unacceptable”??
Personally, I find the idea of clocking more hours at a job I hate just to hand $200 to a prostitute who would probably leave me dying in the street rather than help degrading….
I also find the idea of paying some dickhead like roissy or roosh money to learn game degrading.
If the MRM wants to be anything more than a bunch of pathetic whiners, they should advocate the idea that a male is more than a fucking walking atm machine–the only addendum I’ll ad is that if you do make a baby with someone, you should be paying for said baby until they are 18.
Oh, for fuck’s fucking sake.
BTW, I take being called trenchant as a compliment even though it was probably meant in sarcasm…
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: keen, sharp
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: vigorously effective and articulate ; also : caustic
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a : sharply perceptive : penetrating b : clear-cut, distinct
That’s a very poor analogy. Agreeing to have sex with someone in exchange for money is hardly comparable to having to lose a limb. Once again, I am not talking about anyone accusing anyone of any sort of CRIME here. I’m talking about the OP absolving the woman of any responsibility for agreeing to do something which he considers to be exploitative and that she might have hard feelings about afterwards.
David, look what your boi Savrola said about me:
Savrola December 8, 2011 at 9:46 am
Stoner you are a walk/blogging arguement against miscegenation, so don’t knock yourself out.
haha,
I think I responded well in comments 37 and 76….
trenchant indeed….
Entering into a contractual labor agreement in which any party is under duress is questionable at best, and personal responsibility also falls upon those paying to take note of such duress. That’s straight from glibertarian ethics land, ffs.
Isn’t standard glibertarian ethics “if a business practice is unethical, expose and boycott it”?
Not “if a business practice is unethical, oh well.”
fyi, being cynical and sarcastic doesn’t make you look clever. it just makes you look like every other teenage try-hard on the internet. but most of your comments do that so i’m not sure why i singled out this one.