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Homeless girls: A frugal alternative to pricey prostitutes!

NOTE: The title of this post is sarcastic. If you found this post through a Google search because you’re actually looking for tips on how to exploit desperate young women, you’re a piece of shit, and this post is not for you. Go away, and go fuck yourself.

Fellas! Want sex, but don’t have the money to shell out on prostitutes? Hate the time and effort it takes to talk a non-professional sex-having women into having sex with you? A recent post by Advocatus Diaboli on the always delightful In Mala Fide offered an elegant solution for horny but frugal men. In a post titled Pooning on a Tight Budget, AD explained the technique that has worked for him:

Getting poor, but good-looking, young girls (18-23) to have sex with [you] in return for some timely financial help.

Turns out that women who are poor and desperate can be exploited for your own sexy purposes!

Of course, it’s not always quite as easy as it might seem.

I should be upfront that getting amateur women to have sex for money can be tricky as most of them believe that they are not whores. Moreover, poor young women often have “boyfriends” and white knight orbiters. So I created a set of filters and rules to screen out the most problematic types.

According to AD, all you have to do is to:

Avoid all girls who have obvious and serious drug and mental health issues or have lived on the street for over 6 weeks at a stretch.

Happily for you, that still leaves lots of girls ripe for the picking! AD suggests you focus your attention on:

Freshly homeless young girls, especially those who hangout in mixed groups.

The safest ones are those who are into pot, drumming, dreadlocks et cetera. You can find them in many larger cities in the spring and summer. While I would never trust them with any significant amount of money, many are reasonably decent human beings.

You might not think you’d have much in common to talk about with these women – what with them being “reasonably decent human beings” and you being a “completely reprehensible pile of shit” – but you’d be surprised.

Strike up a conversation with them, engage them and see where it leads. But you must make it plainly obvious that you are interested in them sexually, but that all favors require reciprocation. Once you get to know them, a decent round of drinks, snacks, money for pot, a small necessary item of clothing, decent dinner with booze will almost guarantee you a good lay (or at least a couple of BJs).

And if you crunch the numbers you’ll see it’s really quite a frugal solution.

Your initial financial hit for hanging out with them is very small, and once they are sleeping with you.. it will often work to about $30-60 (cash equivalent or cash) per session. You may also get freebies..

But girls don’t necessarily have to be literally homeless to be desperate enough to sleep with you for money. Nope! You may also find great cost-savings from targeting:

Girls who are not homeless, but are just hanging on.

How do you find these lovely ladies? Keep an eye out for women working really shitty jobs that don’t pay shit! You’ll find them conveniently located

in smaller retail stores or businesses that pay minimum wage with no tips. Build a rapport and be fairly upfront about your interest, but do not come across as desperate. Go to her workplace and talk to her when you are in that area, but do not stalk her.

Yep, it turns out that even desperate women can be creeped out. So play it cool! Stalking’s for fools!

There’s another possible hurdle: other dudes.

Such women often have “boyfriends,” however, they are often just as poor or poorer than her. You can get pussy as long as you are firm about the need for reciprocation. This category of girls might be more willing to give BJs than having ‘real sex.’ But do you really care?

Just remember to keep to your budget!

Restrict your help to less than $200 at any one time AND only after she has put out a couple of times.

And then there’s AD’s favorite category of desperate women:

Girls who are poor, but not homeless and have no “boyfriends” + have moved to the city within the last eight weeks.

You have hit the jackpot! 

Just don’t get carried away. Remember: you’re in charge, and she should know it!

Remember these girls can become de facto GFs, but do not restrict yourself to one. While you do not have to rub it in their faces, they should know that you are always looking around for a better deal. But treat them a bit better than type 1 and 2, they do give more per dollar spent on them.

Your accountant will be so, so proud of you!

Just remember:

They will play by your rules as long as they are not too dehumanizing, and they are often cheaper than professional whores.

Now that’s a motto to live by!

Amazingly, not all of the readers of In Mala Fide appreciated AD’s little treatise.

Simon invoked the c-word, before tossing in some racism:

Mate you are one deadset sad cunt. It’s no surprise to know you’re Indian.

Cathater broke out the other c-word:

Pretty damn creepy. You sound like you have no soul. Actually, you might be the first member of a new species: the perfectly rational, purely selfish utility-maximizing agent (Homo Economicus) that Austrian economists and Randroids have always droned on and on about.

Yes, I was as surprised as you are to read an actually reasonable critique of the post on In Mala Fide.

Don’t worry, though, the rest of the comments mostly lived up to the foul standards of the blog.

Ryu worried about the old slippery slope. If you start by suggesting that PUAs target homeless women, the next thing you know they’ll advocate sex with children! And then down the slippery slope you’ll slide:

This is the direction that PU takes one in. I’m surprised that there haven’t been any PUAs who say that during a dry spell we should go to gay bars and pick up men. Just to keep your dick wet, you know.

Savrola returned to the theme of race:

There’s a problem WNs have yet to deal with. Well off second-generation foreigners like AD taking advantage of your impoverished women of older native stock, after they’ve taken your jobs.

Can’t keep ‘em here, can’t send ‘em back.

What to do?

Blog proprietor Ferdinand Bardamu waded in to take a shot at all the “white knights” sticking up for the gals.

ROFLMAO at all these white knights. …

If you want to blame someone, blame the morally debased white women who would rather blow a stranger for $200 then work honestly (pull yourself up by your bootstraps, slob! nobody owes you anything!).

We’re living in Soviet Amerika (and Soviet Kanada). All of your daughters are whores or will become whores, soon as the price tag gets high enough.

Meanwhile, Stoner With a Boner, who sometimes graces the comments section here with his always trenchant wisdom, took a stand on behalf of the real victims here: dudes paying their own hard-earned money to icky ladies for sex.

Personally, I find the idea of clocking more hours at a job I hate just to hand $200 to a prostitute who would probably leave me dying in the street rather than help degrading.

Men, the forgotten victims once again.

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marc2020
marc2020
12 years ago

Well this is indeed an auspicious day in Manboobz history as I think we have just found the lowest of the low the creepiest of the creepy after this the best others can hope for is second place.

A human being did not write these words people I’m almost 100% positive of that. They were written by an monster an inhuman beast that has gone undetected for all these years.

Men's Rights Activist Lieutenant
Men's Rights Activist Lieutenant
12 years ago

Holly, well, obviously that’s awesome, although it sucks that your home life was such that you remember it in those terms. Mine is very good. That’s one privilege I will actually cop to.

I also actually think it might be unfair to call this guy an MRA. He’s really just a whirlwind of undirected stupidity, sort of like Zero Tolerance Man. My feelings (my actual, non-troll feelings) are that Farrell and Sacks are (mostly) reasonable, and I have a little bit of time for r/mr, AnnArchist notwithstanding. Anything else is a joke, and this blog is like five rungs down from that. So, I don’t know.

Joanna
12 years ago

“many are reasonably decent human beings.”

I never thought I’d see those words on an MRA sight about women.

Also *hugs Holly*

Joanna
12 years ago

site* Dammit! >.<

Holly Pervocracy
12 years ago

Yeah, the Spearhead is also full of “White Nationalist” type guys–they’ve got a lot more going on than just being MRAs. This is definitely more of a “misogyny” than a “MRA” post, inasmuch as I don’t think anyone’s trying to argue that sleeping with homeless girls is a man’s right.

…Okay, NWO probably might. Or B__don. But they’ve got even more fucked-up shit going on.

marc2020
marc2020
12 years ago

You know what I would like to retract the monster of my comment I apologise that was wrong of me. I guess I got a bit carried away but I have seriously never read anything so vile in all the time I’ve been reading manboobz and David has posted so pretty vicious stuff.

So yeah sorry about calling him inhuman that was out of line but that being said FUCK THIS GUY.

zhinxy
12 years ago

http://steppingstonens.ca/

A wonderful sex worker resource for those dealing with survival sex issues.

I just want to throw in, not really as a direct response to Holly, but the larger issue of survival sex vs. “choice sex work” from a sex worker’s rights perspective – Even when sex worker’s choices are constrained, it’s kind of a persistent myth (Or slander, if you will) that sex worker’s rights organizations/activists are only for the “happy hookers” and “choice choice choice” – It’s far more about meeting people where they are and dealing with their needs. So for me, as an ally/activist, I don’t shy away from dealing with constrained choices – People engaged in survival sex, etc. The problem is the dehumanizing and reality-distorting rhetoric of certain radical feminists and etc – The “Poor Helpless Victims Need Our Help (And Laws!)” idea. – Sex workers often are accused of disappearing the reality of coercion, economic and otherwise away, when they’re often out there working in those grey areas for better conditions. That was really rambly, because I’m tired Grah. Have a lot of feelings.

mral –

I think Glenn Sacks is a reasonable and pretty decent guy, myself. Farell not so much. He’s just good at using his “reasonable tone”

Kavette
Kavette
12 years ago

I’m not sure if Kave mentioned this while he was on here but my beloved uncle is perhaps the king of all leather daddies. Because of our close relationship I was introduced by the time I was thirteen or so to the underbelly of boy prostitution.

Not because he used them, but as I became friends with his house-boys and met friends of theirs, started hanging out outside of my uncles place, I became friends with male prostitutes of my own age.

At the time honestly it was all shit and giggles, how they are using the men. I can remember one night in particular when I dressed as a boy in drag to seduce the middle-aged man into buying everything for all of us for the night (I was a very pretty boy) with the laugh being on him in the end. All good times, and happened more then once.

But I’m going to second the brain bleach. Under sixteen it was all fun and games on the surface but by the time I was eighteen I suffered from anxiety disorder and fainting attacks. At the same time that I starting to build my “empire” financially, emotionally I was a wreck even though I’d never had sex with the pedophiles.

My teenaged friends, some of them would be the person you just walk past, a lot of them are dead. I only have one out of a group of twenty or more that’s doing o.k. He battles addiction issues, social anxiety etc but he’s alive and working.

It is not o.k to do what those men did. They were children and stupid and they completely fucked with their brains. My childhood friends are either dead, homeless or insane.

FRUGAL? Want to be frugal? Stop fucking children because I have no doubt this post is about runaways. Why don’t you jerk off instead and donate the dollars you’d spend on them to charities that help them. Is that so hard?

Men's Rights Activist Lieutenant
Men's Rights Activist Lieutenant
12 years ago

Haha, “B__don”. Does he actually have a bot set up to scan for his name, or what?

Ahwev
Ahwev
12 years ago

Alphalady, you aren’t “bad”, and you certainly didn’t deserve the negative experiences you received at the hands of people who happened to coincidentally also be mentally ill. I appreciate that you are trying to validate Holly, but I have borderline personality disorder and I was offended by your conflation with abusive behaviour and my disorder. I’m not sure if you are aware of this, but borderline personality disorder is a very stigmatized already. Luckily, with proper treatment and hard work, it can be successfully cured.

Sharculese
12 years ago

@mral

saying his name makes him appear. it’s like a curse.

although i’m not particularly happy with B__don because there was a well like professor at my college who went by that name and i dont want to associate him with that asshole

Holly Pervocracy
12 years ago

Haha, Sharculese, I used to date a B__don. (I mean, a guy named that, not a guy like that.) He was a nice guy, and the name always gives me a little dissonance.

Lady Zombie
Lady Zombie
12 years ago

Scumbag much?

I’m surprised more of them aren’t eating it up. I mean, it has everything! You get to treat women like the natural whores they are, plus save a few bucks in the process. Win!

Seriously though, I just lost a little more faith in humanity. I usually do when I read their crap.

Nobinayamu
Nobinayamu
12 years ago

Unfortunately, I know that this shit is not the lowest of the low.

You wait until you’ve read/heard some of the things said by men who actively seek out sex workers who are drug addicts.

I remember being young and poor. I was incredibly fortunate in that I wasn’t escaping an abusive home life and I wasn’t a teenager. Just young and pursuing low-paying, artistic endeavors. I remember the shitty landlord who offered me a couple of month’s free rent if I’d promise to be enthusiastic and discreet. Because he was married, you see.

And he was actually one of less awful ones.

Viscaria
Viscaria
12 years ago

Kavette, wow. There’s nothing I find more sickening than those who take advantage of children. I’m so sorry for what you’ve gone through, and for your friends.

MRAL, His Righteousness tends to appear when summoned. I have no idea if there’s a bot involved or not.

Ramza
Ramza
12 years ago

I think in light of how awful this clearly is that we should consider trying to focus on the bright side, MRA’s condemning something. Apparently some of them do have limits to their hatred of women.

Now I wonder if its possible to expand that at all. Like, you think exploiting the homeless is wrong, can you see how that’s kinda like preventing a woman from getting a job and education and forcing her to stay home?

hellkell
hellkell
12 years ago

MRAL, B_don is the Bloody Mary of the board. Says his name three times and he shows up and bores you to death.

2-D Man
2-D Man
12 years ago

Well, I have a frugality tip: reduce your grocery bill by regularly reading In Mala Fide.

NWOslave
NWOslave
12 years ago

@Holly Pervocracy

A sad story, Holly. And I mean that sincerely. I know the sting of hunger and thirst quite well. Since I’ve told you all of being hungry for days at a time already. I’m mocked of course as not eating 300 days in a row and such instead of 300 days total. I got a thick skin and I’m used to it.

You say you “seduced” him more or less, basically you were grateful for his assistance and sought to reward him as best you could with what you possessed for his kindness. Desperate times deserve deperate measures.

My own story of hunger is a tad different. I spent many a night sleeping by the railroad yards or in cubbyholes on the mean streets of Philly. Being a man, my options to stave off hunger/thirst are a little different. I turned to burglary of course.

Funny story, I actually once broke into a store, (it was winter) and it was so warm I took one of the alarm clocks that was for sale, set it, slept until early morning, robbed the place and then left. Eventually of course, (rather quickly in fact) I was arrested. Funny thing is, even a warm cell is better than a cold railroad yard.

You, under no duress, gave sex to a man for helping you out. Many women are forced into a situation where their very survival means giving sex for food and shelter. Everyone calls them victims. Men on the other hand don’t even have that option. Believe me when I tell you, no women were willing to give me or any other jobless, homeless vagrant that I was, food and shelter for sex. That doesn’t happen. Ever.

When you read the news and see all those robberies, theft, assaults and such committed by men. That is their only option for survival. In the end, they’re called criminals not victims. I know, because I’m one of them.

Sharculese
12 years ago

so was that before or after pepsi refused to hire you because of their imaginary quota system

Holly Pervocracy
12 years ago

Oh hai NWO! I was prepared for you and this shit is 10 years old, so no, you’re not setting off some horrible emotional pain for me. Kudos for trying, though!

I saw the “a scared-shitless, completely un-streetwise teenage girl with nowhere to go is making a choice to trade sex for shelter!” coming a mile off. Dunno what to tell you except that you’re a terrible person.

One correction: lots of men have survival sex. Most often they have it with men (you don’t have to be gay when you’re hungry enough), but some women do hire them too.

Amanda Marcotte (@AmandaMarcotte)

But remember, feminists are just as bad! Two sides, same coin!

Sharculese
12 years ago

also, owlslave it continues to amaze me how you seem to find yourself personally exempt from the sort of rhetoric about taking responsibility for your actions you spout all day long

Holly Pervocracy
12 years ago

Also, I’m pretty sure I’ve gone at least 100 days without food, if “consecutive” isn’t a requirement here. I never thought to count them though. That’s like declaring “I’ve lost 4 gallons of blood from wounds!”, which may also be technically true in the same way.

Oooh, ooh, I got another one: I’ve gone several years without sleeping!

Not consecutively though.

Kavette
Kavette
12 years ago

Viscari

I was really mostly just an observer and it still had consequences regarding my adult years. Some are good- I do as much as I can for homeless men. Some are bad- writing my last post I’m still reduced to tears. Too many dead friends.

I didn’t have the experience of girls being prostituted so it’s not my life work, but I do know the experiences are parallel.