NOTE: The title of this post is sarcastic. If you found this post through a Google search because you’re actually looking for tips on how to exploit desperate young women, you’re a piece of shit, and this post is not for you. Go away, and go fuck yourself.
Fellas! Want sex, but don’t have the money to shell out on prostitutes? Hate the time and effort it takes to talk a non-professional sex-having women into having sex with you? A recent post by Advocatus Diaboli on the always delightful In Mala Fide offered an elegant solution for horny but frugal men. In a post titled Pooning on a Tight Budget, AD explained the technique that has worked for him:
Getting poor, but good-looking, young girls (18-23) to have sex with [you] in return for some timely financial help.
Turns out that women who are poor and desperate can be exploited for your own sexy purposes!
Of course, it’s not always quite as easy as it might seem.
I should be upfront that getting amateur women to have sex for money can be tricky as most of them believe that they are not whores. Moreover, poor young women often have “boyfriends” and white knight orbiters. So I created a set of filters and rules to screen out the most problematic types.
According to AD, all you have to do is to:
Avoid all girls who have obvious and serious drug and mental health issues or have lived on the street for over 6 weeks at a stretch.
Happily for you, that still leaves lots of girls ripe for the picking! AD suggests you focus your attention on:
Freshly homeless young girls, especially those who hangout in mixed groups.
The safest ones are those who are into pot, drumming, dreadlocks et cetera. You can find them in many larger cities in the spring and summer. While I would never trust them with any significant amount of money, many are reasonably decent human beings.
You might not think you’d have much in common to talk about with these women – what with them being “reasonably decent human beings” and you being a “completely reprehensible pile of shit” – but you’d be surprised.
Strike up a conversation with them, engage them and see where it leads. But you must make it plainly obvious that you are interested in them sexually, but that all favors require reciprocation. Once you get to know them, a decent round of drinks, snacks, money for pot, a small necessary item of clothing, decent dinner with booze will almost guarantee you a good lay (or at least a couple of BJs).
And if you crunch the numbers you’ll see it’s really quite a frugal solution.
Your initial financial hit for hanging out with them is very small, and once they are sleeping with you.. it will often work to about $30-60 (cash equivalent or cash) per session. You may also get freebies..
But girls don’t necessarily have to be literally homeless to be desperate enough to sleep with you for money. Nope! You may also find great cost-savings from targeting:
Girls who are not homeless, but are just hanging on.
How do you find these lovely ladies? Keep an eye out for women working really shitty jobs that don’t pay shit! You’ll find them conveniently located
in smaller retail stores or businesses that pay minimum wage with no tips. Build a rapport and be fairly upfront about your interest, but do not come across as desperate. Go to her workplace and talk to her when you are in that area, but do not stalk her.
Yep, it turns out that even desperate women can be creeped out. So play it cool! Stalking’s for fools!
There’s another possible hurdle: other dudes.
Such women often have “boyfriends,” however, they are often just as poor or poorer than her. You can get pussy as long as you are firm about the need for reciprocation. This category of girls might be more willing to give BJs than having ‘real sex.’ But do you really care?
Just remember to keep to your budget!
Restrict your help to less than $200 at any one time AND only after she has put out a couple of times.
And then there’s AD’s favorite category of desperate women:
Girls who are poor, but not homeless and have no “boyfriends” + have moved to the city within the last eight weeks.
You have hit the jackpot!
Just don’t get carried away. Remember: you’re in charge, and she should know it!
Remember these girls can become de facto GFs, but do not restrict yourself to one. While you do not have to rub it in their faces, they should know that you are always looking around for a better deal. But treat them a bit better than type 1 and 2, they do give more per dollar spent on them.
Your accountant will be so, so proud of you!
Just remember:
They will play by your rules as long as they are not too dehumanizing, and they are often cheaper than professional whores.
Now that’s a motto to live by!
Amazingly, not all of the readers of In Mala Fide appreciated AD’s little treatise.
Simon invoked the c-word, before tossing in some racism:
Mate you are one deadset sad cunt. It’s no surprise to know you’re Indian.
Cathater broke out the other c-word:
Pretty damn creepy. You sound like you have no soul. Actually, you might be the first member of a new species: the perfectly rational, purely selfish utility-maximizing agent (Homo Economicus) that Austrian economists and Randroids have always droned on and on about.
Yes, I was as surprised as you are to read an actually reasonable critique of the post on In Mala Fide.
Don’t worry, though, the rest of the comments mostly lived up to the foul standards of the blog.
Ryu worried about the old slippery slope. If you start by suggesting that PUAs target homeless women, the next thing you know they’ll advocate sex with children! And then down the slippery slope you’ll slide:
This is the direction that PU takes one in. I’m surprised that there haven’t been any PUAs who say that during a dry spell we should go to gay bars and pick up men. Just to keep your dick wet, you know.
Savrola returned to the theme of race:
There’s a problem WNs have yet to deal with. Well off second-generation foreigners like AD taking advantage of your impoverished women of older native stock, after they’ve taken your jobs.
Can’t keep ‘em here, can’t send ‘em back.
What to do?
Blog proprietor Ferdinand Bardamu waded in to take a shot at all the “white knights” sticking up for the gals.
ROFLMAO at all these white knights. …
If you want to blame someone, blame the morally debased white women who would rather blow a stranger for $200 then work honestly (pull yourself up by your bootstraps, slob! nobody owes you anything!).
We’re living in Soviet Amerika (and Soviet Kanada). All of your daughters are whores or will become whores, soon as the price tag gets high enough.
Meanwhile, Stoner With a Boner, who sometimes graces the comments section here with his always trenchant wisdom, took a stand on behalf of the real victims here: dudes paying their own hard-earned money to icky ladies for sex.
Personally, I find the idea of clocking more hours at a job I hate just to hand $200 to a prostitute who would probably leave me dying in the street rather than help degrading.
Men, the forgotten victims once again.
This post contains:
@Holly Pervocracy
Bullshit. You violently attacked me for my suffering. Go to the start of the thread, take a look. I was attacked because I’m a man. Hate movement.
I finally understand NWO’s method of debate: he assumes if he says something enough, it becomes true. Hence why he keeps repeating empty phrases like “Big Daddy,” “da hood,” “zero-sum game,” and “hate movement,” without any substance or logical argument to back them up.
NWO, have you tried saying “Candy man” five times in front of a mirror?
I am finally beginning to understand. NWO thinks that ‘man’ and ‘arsehole’ are interchangeable. So when someone calls him out for being an arsehole, he thinks he’s being attacked for being a man.
Following from that, one must assume that NWO believes that men and arseholes are the same thing. And he reckons WE hate men?
@Holly Pervocracy
Oh when it’s for a woman, any violence is fine, isn’t it?
Here from your little sympathy piece the other day.
“(He didn’t get in any legal trouble for any of this. Although I did find out much later that my dad threatened to kill him. High five, Dad.)”
That threat of violence was peachy! High Five Dad! But women won’t get a little bloodied of shed blood for men. That’d be one of those problems inherent to women I was talking about.
Hey now, Ms. Holly, We all know how the mra dudes like to dismiss your (women) argument by turning to personal attacks about your emotions, being hysterical, or unreasonable, etc. Attack the woman and call her sexist names like hysterical , instead of debating her argument is called: “Ad Feminam”
“I was attacked because I’m a man who tells people who were sexually exploited as homeless teenagers that they ought to be grateful for the privilege of being child prostitutes.”
Fixed that for ya.
Other people here are men, and we don’t seem to have the same problem with them, because, well, I think you should know. (Hint: it has to do with not saying reprehensible things constantly.)
Gimmie a minute, I’ll finish my story from the other day.
So you missed the part in which posters here listed women who have gotten bloody for a man, eh, NWO?
So you’re both stupid and selectively blind. That must be quite a struggle for you.
She ‘violently attacked’ you, NWOslave? Can Holly travel via wi-fi and phone lines now? Cause you know, when you say stuff like ‘violently attacked,’ that usually implies some sort of physical presence.
Hehehe. Yup. Totally never stayed in one of those because homeless shelters for men are totally made up.
Hehehe. Nope. Never had a friend who ended up on the streets due to his temper and anarchistic leanings shack up with a woman and have her support him in exchange for sex. That guys is just part of my imagination.
Because he didn’t explicitly use the exact words, “I’M DEFENDING THIS POST!!!”
QED!!!
Reading comprehension FAIL.
Peruse the masthead again.
Just when I thought that the crazy of everyday politics was bringing the dung beetle swarm out of the darkest recesses, shit-trollers like Whatever prove that George Orwell was an optimist
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahhaha!!!!
*GASP*
Ah-Hahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!
Maybe one day you’ll actually site a logical fallacy correctly.
@BobbyJo
Oh… Don’t get them started…!
A keyboard that is remarkably resistant to permanent damage from the contestant pounding it receives from your sippy-cup?
I will clarify for the extremely slow that I would have been very upset if my dad had actually killed that man, but I was impressed that he was willing to scare him on my behalf. Also this was not about “man vs. woman” so much as it was about “creep vs. runaway teenager” so, you know, keep that in mind. I don’t think a woman who’d exploited me would have been hunky fuckin’ dory.
Maybe he thinks that “violently attack” means the same thing as “say bad things about on the Internet.”
That would be nice, actually, considering all the people he thinks deserve to be violently attacked.
@Holly Pervocracy
Here’s a few quotes from your blog.
“Let’s be fair here; he didn’t offer me food and lodging for sex, not in so many words. I “seduced” him. I got food and lodging out of it. He didn’t hurt me but he did make it clear that I’d have to leave if I stopped sleeping with him. ”
And.
“It was vanilla sex, with condoms, not painful or demanding, and frankly it was even kind of enjoyable on a surface level–I had orgasms and everything. But it was also… detached.”
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When I was young, a few years older than you in your article I wasn’t running away from anything. Times were tough, jobs scarce. I was unemployed. Jobless. Homeless. Penniless. My first “burglary” for survival went like this. I smashed the window of a mom and pop store. Grabbed the cash from the register, some candy bars and a jar of peanut butter, the breakfast, lunch and dinner of champions.
The alarm screamed, police sirens started to wail and I ran as fast as I could. Every alley looked like a dead end trap but I ran. Lights coming on in people’s houses and fucking dogs barking everywhere. My feet were numb from cold and every step was agony. I was terrified but I had to make it back to the safety of the railroad tracks. I smacked my hand, which was already cracked and bleeding from the cold into a streetlamp as I was running. The pain almost dropped me.
I finally made it to the safety of the where the sewers drain by the railroad tracks. At about 4 foot tall they run throughout the city. In the winter the water is frozen and you can find dry spots to light a fire. My first night as a poverty criminal was spent freezing in a sewer, in pain, alone and terrified, eating peanut butter.
By my third burglary I was arrested, processed and spent the night in the roundhouse. In the morning I was released into the freezing cold, jobless, penniless, homeless and a brand new criminal record.
Most of my friends were in the same boat. Occasionally I was able to sleep in a friend’s garage until their parents found out. I’d begged of course. Sometimes a man would help with some change or a smoke. Any woman I ever approached would look straight ahead, walk faster or look away in disgust. They’d already been taught to fear and hate men back then. Out of the 15 or 16 of my friends that I hung around with only 6 of us are still alive. Most died as bums with sclerosis of the liver. One went army, two couldn’t cut it and went lifetime prison, and two of them are divorced living that wonderful life and me.
Do you know what I would’ve done back then to have food, shelter and enjoyable straight vanilla sex? If the devil himself popped up in that sewer my first night as a criminal and offered me a contract for my soul for what you call being a victim I wonder if I would’ve signed it with my cracked bloodied hands? Can you imagine me, as a man, being fed and sheltered, having enjoyable straight vanilla sex while feeling detached, claim I’m a victim? The world would laugh in my face.
And ya know what? The State, MSM, Charities and women all over the internet and in RL give men the same shit I got back then. Fear, hatred and disgust, indoctrinated into society every damn day. And you want sympathy?
@Holly
You mean you haven’t found a way to travel via internet? Aww…
NWO, it’s interesting the one part of my story you haven’t latched onto is the part where I was abused by my mother.
I know this puts you in a bind, because although it works in your favor–great news, everybody, a new woman to hate!–you can’t acknowledge that a feminist said it. If you acknowledge that a feminist recognizes women can abuse each other, then your whole view of the “WOMAN GOOD MAN BAD” hate movement might suffer a nasty shock.
NWO, you’re the last person on this site who should be playing the “I deserve more sympathy than you!” game. You’re a pathological liar. Holly is not. You’re a terrible person. Holly is not. It sucks that you’ve allegedly had horrible experiences, but you had the choice to rise above them and not become a warped, hateful asshole in need of a scapegoat. You had the choice and you didn’t take it. And I have no sympathy for you.
NWO, assuming I accept your story as true right down to the part where dogs chased you immediately after a convenience store burglary but you escaped them by getting to the railroad tracks (???), why doesn’t that give you any sympathy for me?
Like you said yourself, you would have done anything. So would I. And I did.
It’s sad we can’t hug and say “we both had shitty lives, I’m so glad we’re both in better places now.”
Maybe he thinks that “violently attack” means the same thing as “say bad things about on the Internet.”
But he also insists that it’s not abuse or domestic violence unless you actually physically hurt someone.
And you also claim that because no woman was willing to exploit YOU for sex by providing food and shelter, this never happens ever. Which has been demonstrated to be untrue. So again, you lie.
Maybe all this did happen. Maybe you’re not making it up the way you make up so many other things. If it’s true, your teenage self has my sympathy. Your adult self, however, is still an arsehole who doesn’t get to judge the level of someone else’s exploitation. Shame about that eh?
OK, when did NWO suddenly become Rorschach? He is not normally that descriptive and he’s certainly not normally coherent enough to tell a sequential story.
@katz: Don’t forget, NWO demonstrated with “zero-sum game” that he believes he can give words new, valid definitions whenever he feels like it. So “violently attack” can be used in reference to someone picking apart his arguments or insulting him when it works in his favor, and be used to claim that a certain action isn’t abusive, also when it works in his favor.
@Holly Pervocracy
Oh really? Go back to the first page look at my post. Tell me how horribly I talked about you. Then look at your first reply back. Go ahead read it. I’ll gather a few of the sympathy replys for my like as a young man.
BRB
@katz: This being NWO, I wouldn’t put it past him to plagiarize someone else’s story, but pasting the paragraphs into Google isn’t pulling anything up.
And again, NWO tries to change the subject when he can’t respond to a post (in this case, either of Holly’s after the sob story).
Lauralot: I tried that too. Still, that reads neither like NWO nor like anyone’s off-the-cuff description of things that really happened to them (much, much more like a fictional account), so in NWO-speak, there’s about a 90% chance he cribbed it from something.