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Gay men! Fear the lesbobo fempocalypse!

Gay men, stop falling for these man-hating ladies!

Gay men, when will you learn that feminists are fickle friends? Christian J. – the blogger behind What Men Are Saying About Women and the inventor of the MRA two-dot ellipses – offers gay men a trenchant warning about the evils of these seemingly friendly “allies.”

Fascinating how gay men are of the opinion that they are seen as humans where feminists are concerned. I am not quite certain how many more times we have to demonstrate that feminists loathe gays, with a passion, the male type ofcourse, not the lesbobo version..

Yes, obviously the lesbobos — much like lesbos, but with twice as much bo — have no problem with male hating. But gay men need to open their eyes to what is really going on.

Feminists have jumped aboard the Gay Rights Movement in order to spread their own male hating message. A message that the Gay Community appears to ignore. When feminists call for the removal of all men, the Gay man is definitely not exempted, I cannot understand how they can be in denial of  that fact, that certainty..

Also, that whole “gay marriage” thing you guys are always on about is really kind of pointless, since the evil ladies have already ruined marriage for everyone:

Feminists are only concerned about destroying marriage and families and the Gay community can help there as well by demanding that marriage should be renounced as null and void.

Of course, the lesbobos love feminism, and vice versa. Or at least they profess to:

Feminism and feminists only support lesbianism as most of the radical feminists are lesbians and they possess sufficient toxicity and male hate in order to spread their anti male loathing. They attached themselves to any movement they think they will have some advantage or benefit to spreading their elitist, sexist message..

But gay men?

Ignore these warning at your own peril. Feminists will dump you faster than typhoid when they have achieved their own outcomes. It’s that simple..

FIGHT THE TWIN EVILS OF LESBOBOS AND FEMINISMISM!

TWO DOTS GOOD, THREE DOTS BAD!

IGNORE THESE WARNING AT YOUR OWN PERIL!

 

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Arks
Arks
9 years ago

@Quackers:

Porn represents stifled desires. Remember, Hobbes was right. So while I disagree with that Jack Thompson sort of “violent video games are bad” attitude, I do think that conflict-based games serve a role in society. The same sort of role that pretty much every sport (except for golf) has played throughout history. So slashfics are basically the female form of boxing in that sense.

Dracula
Dracula
9 years ago

So slashfics are basically the female form of boxing in that sense.

Pretty sure the “female form” of boxing is also boxing.

Quackers
Quackers
9 years ago

Porn represents stifled desires. Remember, Hobbes was right. So while I disagree with that Jack Thompson sort of “violent video games are bad” attitude, I do think that conflict-based games serve a role in society. The same sort of role that pretty much every sport (except for golf) has played throughout history. So slashfics are basically the female form of boxing in that sense.

So by your logic, that means that most men who watch porn where women are degraded, choked and violently fucked means those men want to do that in real life to their sex partners or girlfriends?

Good to know. I’ll be sure to just assume that and stay away from men completely unless the man I’m interested in shows me his complete history or porn sites he’s visited. And even then I should remain suspicious because surely I haven’t seen each porn site he’s visited.

I see you’ve also disregarded the part where I said not all slashfics are rapey or based on alpha dom/girly-man sub. I find non-con fics disturbing.

Quackers
Quackers
9 years ago

In fact, I’ll never leave my house! because like porn, violent movies and games represent stifled desires in people to kill others!

Lauralot
Lauralot
9 years ago

Oh shit, I’m a fan of horror movies! I must be either a serial killer or a dying soldier hallucinating that I’m uninjured and far away from the war!

But wait! I also like musicals! So from now I must sing and dance during murders and nightmares!

But wait! I also like comic books! Clearly I’m a dying soldier hallucinating that I’m a superheroine in a musical!

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
9 years ago

The MRM doesn’t make us mad, Arks, it amuses us. Notice the blog’s tagline?

“So slashfics are basically the female form of boxing in that sense.”

OK, now I REALLY want to know what he’s been reading. Or perhaps not. Does Arks secretely read Weeping Cock?

Also, I love Oldboy, so does that mean that I want to fuck my brother (which would take some doing, since I don’t have one), or that I want to fuck my (also nonexistent) daughter and feel really guilty about it?

Quackers
Quackers
9 years ago

hahaha Lauralot

I’m not denying that some people live through movie characters, porn stars, or slash fic characters. I’m sure many do. BUT, many people also don’t. Nor do people who imagine enjoying a something a character is going through, doesn’t mean they’d enjoy it in real life. Because its, you know, not real.

He’s just using that fucked up argument I’ve seen some PUAs and MRAs use about women who fantasize about rape. The ones that say just because women have rape fantasies, it means they really want to be raped or choked during sex, and that should be proof enough of women’s “natural” submission to men, so why should they have rights anyway? Nothing but really disturbing BS. If I were to follow that logic I could easily make the claim that men who see dominatrixes is proof of those men’s submission to women thus we should whip them during sex and deny them rights.

See? Bullshit.

Lauralot
Lauralot
9 years ago

And I like Disney movies! So now I’m a dying soldier superhero mermaid that sings!

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
9 years ago

I like Hong Kong action movies, so clearly I want to shoot people while dangling from wires.

Actually now that we mention it, that does sound like fun.

Lauralot
Lauralot
9 years ago

And I like ridiculously cheesy bad movies, so clearly GARBAGE DAY

Quackers
Quackers
9 years ago

I like Batman. It means I want to dress in a batsuit and kick the crap out of villians……………….actually I kinda do >.>

but obviously I wont because it will get me jailed or killed. Also I don’t know how to make a batsuit.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
9 years ago

I think any standard PVC catsuit would do for Batman, actually.

Lauralot
Lauralot
9 years ago

There are a huge amount of Batsuit tutorials online. It’s making them bulletproof that’s the tricky part.

In other news, I AM ALL MEN AS I AM NO MAN AND THEREFORE I AM A GOD.

Quackers
Quackers
9 years ago

But the armor. And the batarangs and nifty gadgets. I’m thinking more of the one from Dark Knight 😛

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
9 years ago

I will admit that I know nothing whatsoever about Batman. Um, he wears a cloak? And has a cool car?

Lauralot
Lauralot
9 years ago

Find a costume commissioner and pay huge amounts of money, I guess. Too bad we aren’t all billionaires like Bruce Wayne.

On the subject of costumes and cost, now that I think of it, my Wonder Woman costume is the most expensive costume I’ve ever made, despite it covering such a relatively small area of my body.

Quackers
Quackers
9 years ago

This was the suit I had in mind, but made for a woman http://www.bittenandbound.com/2008/05/29/the-dark-knight-got-milk-ad-campaign/the-dark-knight-got-milk-ad/

also he’s in a milk ad hahaha…never seen that one before.

Lauralot
Lauralot
9 years ago

Batman in a nutshell: Billionaire, parents murdered by shooting, thus seeks to fight injustice and refuses to kill/use guns, makes himself scary because criminals are a cowardly and superstitious lot, doesn’t usually open up to others, broods a lot depending on the writer, brilliant detective/strategist, has all the awesome technology all the time, has had so many sidekicks over the years, has no superpowers.

Viscaria
Viscaria
9 years ago

I’m watching “Cry-Baby” right now, because I want the good boy and the bad boy to fight over me, culminating in a game of chicken that threatens the lives of children. Then I want to sing a sexy 50s R&B number in a hot red dress.

Okay, the singing part is actually true.

SaruGoku
SaruGoku
9 years ago

Shora:

“Lots of women LOVE the slash fiction, sometimes to the point where it gets creepy and objectifying. And I say this as a self-described slash fangirl.”

I’m a slash fan as well, but I tell you, there are huge portions of fandom that I avoid like the plague because the fetishization and objectification make me sick! I tend to hang out at one or two sites and look to see if there are any gay men participating by writing or commenting. They tend to be very aware of any creepiness and objectification, so if they’re around and happy I feel pretty safe.

Quackers
Quackers
9 years ago

How come it was so pricey Lauralot? did you use a very expensive fabric?

Lauralot
Lauralot
9 years ago

Also Batman can breathe in space.

Noadi
9 years ago

Love the “lesbian” in scare-quotes.

Lesbian is in quotes because the women in that porn usually aren’t lesbians and it’s not made for lesbians. It’s made for men, the actual sexuality of the women isn’t important to the porn it’s all about appealing to straight men. Gay porn isn’t made for women, even if we enjoy it, it’s made for gay men thus no scare quotes.

There is porn out there made for and by lesbians but about the only resemblance to mainstream girl-on-girl porn it has is the fact it features women and it is not the sort of thing straight guys are masturbating to.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
9 years ago

Cosplay is really not my thing, but I do have to admire people who can make their own outfits. Much as I love clothes I definitely fall into the “we have people for that” camp when it comes to the actual production of the clothes.

Lauralot
Lauralot
9 years ago

@Quackers: It was the most expensive because I had to buy boning/lacing/grommets for the corset portion, and the corset required lining, outside fabric, and padding to keep the brads holding the eagle emblem in place from stabbing me. I had to buy vinyl for the gauntlets, tiara, and belt, and I ended up ordering too much and spending more than I’d needed to. I also had to buy magnetic clips to keep the belt in place, a wig, and boots.

Lauralot
Lauralot
9 years ago

Also I couldn’t get the fabric for the briefs or the vinyl in local stores, so I had to pay shipping fees on the Internet orders.

Quackers
Quackers
9 years ago

Ah ok. It sounds like you put a lot of effort and detail into it though, so it probably turned out pretty great 🙂

Lauralot
Lauralot
9 years ago

I was really happy with the final product:

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t92/Lauralot/IMG_1767.jpg

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t92/Lauralot/100_0306.jpg

I also had to buy all sorts of makeup for it. And then had to enlist the help of my roommates in putting on false eyelashes and lacing/removing the corset (taking out the front opening in the pattern made it impossible to take on or off alone).

Viscaria
Viscaria
9 years ago

Looks great, Lauralot 🙂 you sure showed that kitty. Which is particularly amusing to me, since zie greatly resembles a kitty of my acquaintance that would totally deserve it.

Quackers
Quackers
9 years ago

Yea that’s some great work Lauralot! especially the corset part. Haha the poor kitty xD

Lauralot
Lauralot
9 years ago

It appears the magic lasso doesn’t do much to subdue cats. He immediately attempted chewing his way through it.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
9 years ago

Gotta say, that kitty doesn’t look too unhappy to me. The only problem with mine would be that if I gave her a toy like that I’d never get it back.

Viscaria
Viscaria
9 years ago

Cats are immune to the golden lasso, because there is no truth in their hearts. Only deception and plans for world domination.

And on that note, night everyone 🙂 last exam in the morning!

Joanna
9 years ago

“Also, it has been my impression that most guys find lesbian porn boring as hell. I think there’s a definite cock quota that porn has to reach in order for guys to find it arousing.”

Lesbian porn is boring! But all my guy friends love it! It’s so annoying! >.<

Joanna
9 years ago

Late to the party as usual but I must say Arks is really throwing out some whacky assumption here.

Pterygotus
Pterygotus
9 years ago

something that isn’t even mainstream and you only know about if you are into geek culture.
Or have spent more than a day on the Internet.

Women aren’t fetishizing gays in fanfic either. They simply think 2 men going at it is hot.
…yeah, that’s called “fetishizing” in feminist circles when it’s two women, so that’s precisely what it is when it’s men instead.

It’s not different than when men look at “lesbian” porn. Lesbian put in quotes because the lesbian porn they look at is usually just hetero porn stars
Also, should I bother pointing out that 99% of the characters being written about aren’t gay canonically, either?

zhinxy
9 years ago

Arks – “@Quackers:

Porn represents stifled desires. Remember, Hobbes was right. So while I disagree with that Jack Thompson sort of “violent video games are bad” attitude, I do think that conflict-based games serve a role in society. The same sort of role that pretty much every sport (except for golf) has played throughout history. So slashfics are basically the female form of boxing in that sense.”

……………………………………………………….

Well, I don’t know why I’m doing this, but… Why specifically Hobbes? Yes, he’s known for his “non-rosy” ideas about human nature, but why specifically bring him up in the case of cathartic media? Is he just the philosopher dude you know who is associated with dark urges?

I mean, I say “Hobbes was wrong” (All the time, I admit)* when people discuss the need of a State to reign in the (Duh! obvious!) chaos, crime, and evil, but that actually is Hobbes’ specific picked bone, and “Hobbes was right” doesn’t necessarily mean much in terms of cathartic release. Locke wouldn’t necessarily have disagreed with Hobbes on video games, dude.

Extra Credit – What is the main theme of Leviathan?

Oh, sorry, I mean text text boyfriend boyfriend.

*Actually… I think I said Hobbes was wrong at least once to Quackers! 😉

zhinxy
9 years ago

Who else wants to see Hobbes and Locke game-off? Halo. Sims. Dance Dance Revolution. CIVILIZATION.

Arielle Shander
9 years ago

Feminists are prominent in the LGBT community, because they actually take the time and make the effort to advance their rights. MRAs like Christian J., on the other hand, complain that feminists “hate gays,” while throwing in a conspiracy theory that they’re really just there to “use” gay men. All people like him want to do is pretend that anything feminists do is for the Almighty Gynocracy. Why don’t you tighten your tinfoil hat just a bit more, eh, Christian?

zhinxy
9 years ago

Also, if you can constructively get your dark jollies out through expression and play, that’s kind of a point against a Strongly Hobbesian worldview, yes/no?

“Remember, Hobbes was right. So while I disagree with that Jack Thompson sort of “violent video games are bad” attitude, ”

I mean, in a specifically Hobbesian worldview, the argument that the violent video games were bad is STRONGER, since they’re more likely to satisfy and then stimulate appetite?

Since if they could help, the argument would be one that society needs to give outlets, rather than reign in inevitably bad desires with as much force as possible. Y/n?

zhinxy
9 years ago

I’m sorry for the derailish comments, guys, I just really, really HAVE to know more about Arks and his Philosophical Learnings.

witlesschum
witlesschum
9 years ago

Feminists are prominent in the LGBT community, because they actually take the time and make the effort to advance their rights. MRAs like Christian J., on the other hand, complain that feminists “hate gays,” while throwing in a conspiracy theory that they’re really just there to “use” gay men. All people like him want to do is pretend that anything feminists do is for the Almighty Gynocracy. Why don’t you tighten your tinfoil hat just a bit more, eh, Christian?

I’m sure this effort to recruit gay men to join to the MRA cause will go well. Or at least as well the Republican Party’s outreach efforts to black people.

New here, followed a Pandagon link and I love the concept.

captainbathrobe
9 years ago

I’m reading Manboobz right now, so therefore I secretly wish to be…reading Manboobz. I’m not complicated.

captainbathrobe
9 years ago

I only like porn that involves Lesbian Seagulls. I hear they hang out on the isle of Lesbobos.

Nobby
9 years ago

@zhinxy as far as Hobbes, I much prefer the stuffed version 😀

(also, a great quote from an awesome professor of mine, during a History of Science lecture: “And of Hobbes, that vile monster, we shall speak no more”.)

zhinxy
9 years ago

“And of Hobbes, that vile monster, we shall speak no more”.

HAHAHHAHAHAHAH! love it!

random6x7
random6x7
9 years ago

Nobby, that is fabulous! Wish my professors had done that.

I, too, am curious about Arks’s idea of Hobbes. What was he right about?

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
9 years ago

I am so very, very confused… Feminists are calling for the removal of all men? And this?!?

“Feminists are only concerned about destroying marriage and families and the Gay community can help there as well by demanding that marriage should be renounced as null and void.”

I’ve finally figured out what’s going on in homophobe’s heads. They think that there can only be one when it comes to marriage. Either it’s one man and one woman, or gays can marry and everyone else’s marriage is null and void. For some reason. It’s like… straight couples have juice, and there’s a big bottle of juice in the fridge. And gay couples want some juice, and the only way they can get it is by stealing the straight couples’ juice.

Marriage must a finite resource or something.

Magnesium
Magnesium
9 years ago

One minute feminists want to enslave men with marriage, the next minute they want to destroy the concept of marriage all together. Make up your minds, ladies!

Also, where are all these men getting removed to? Have we set up a man island that I don’t know about?

Caraz
Caraz
9 years ago

So when the great male culling happens, has there been a decision on what happens to people who are genderqueer?

I’m guessing the MRAs haven’t considered that little bump in the road…