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Dudes: silent no more!

This tiny kitten actually has nothing to do with the post.

Did Tom Matlack of the Good Men Project – not to be confused with Ben Matlock, fictional defense lawyer beloved by the elderly – swallow one of those mysterious “red pills” I keep hearing about on Men’s Rights blogs? Whatever he swallowed, it’s apparently causing him to hallucinate.

How else to explain his recent post on the GMP site titled “Being a Dude Is a Good Thing.” Now, as a dude who spends a good deal of time every day being a dude, I’ve got nothing against anyone being a dude, provided that’s what they want to be. It’s just that the piece itself is full of some rather strange generalizations that don’t actually seem to be, you know, true, at least not in what’s commonly known as “the real world.”

Rather than try to rebut his argument, because he doesn’t seem to have much of one, let’s just look at some of his loopier pronouncements:

Why do men get blamed for everything?

Uh, because they don’t? Sure, men get blamed for things, but guess what? Women get blamed for things all the time, too, from witchcraft, to divorce, to getting themselves raped, battered or killed. They’ve been blamed for earthquakes, for “inciting” male lust, for killing chivalry and “killing off real men,” for “taking roles intended by God only for men.” Heck, some inventive sorts have even figured out how to blame women for men who are assholes. And this guy has decided that “Black Women are to blame for the disrespect Black Men show towards Black Women.” For endless additional examples, scroll back through the posts and comments here, visit any of the blogs on my “boob roll,” or simply continue living on planet earth.

Back to Matlack, whose generalizations get more surreal by the sentence:

In the locker room, in the bathroom, on the walk out of the board room, in my conversations with men of all kinds, that’s what I hear more than anything. The resignation that to be a man is to be unacceptable at some level to the woman in your life.

Really? Who on earth are you hanging out with? And what women are they hanging out with? Are men other than Tom Matlack and his possibly apocryphal conversational partners actually having conversations like this on a regular basis? If the “woman in your life” basically hates men, what is she doing with you, and what are you doing with her?

One close friend jokes, “When speaking to my wife I always make sure to look at the ground in deference. And I make sure not to make any sudden movements.”

Um, what?

I’ve watched him. He loves his wife.

He’s a very competent human being. But with her he’s decided the only way to survive is to submit. The female view is the right view. The male view just gets you into trouble.

You see what I meant before about the hallucinations, right?

But Matlack suggests there is hope for the poor demure, never-before-heard-from men of the world. Apparently they are starting to open their mouths at last.

It seems that the blame game in the mainstream, whether through the minimization of male life in pop culture or on television or through the continued obsession with men behaving badly, has finally struck a chord with the average guy.

Let’s just pause a moment to reflect on this whole “minimization of male life in pop culture or on television.” Mr. Matlack, do you actually watch movies or television, or visit libraries or anything like that? Most movies revolve around men as the main characters, with women in many cases serving as little more than a love interest or simply as scenery. Have you ever heard of the Bechdel test? Read up on it, run the test on some of your favorite films, and then get back to us on the “minimization of male life in pop culture.”

Now back to Matlack’s manifesto:

We are no longer willing to be blamed for being men. We are no longer willing to avert our gazes and stay silent about our feelings. We are raising our voices and telling our stories in our own male vocabulary.

Yeah, because men have been so utterly silent about their feelings, their opinons, and pretty much everything, up until now.

To women, I assume the response is, “well, it’s about time.” But just remember when we talk it’s not going to sound like a women in a man’s body. It’s gonna be all dude. And you are just going to have to deal with that.

Ladies, prepare yourselves for a lot more Dudesplaining in the near future.  Dudes will be ignored no longer! Dudes!!! DUUUUUDESSS!!!!!!

EDITED TO ADD: Matlack’s gotten some responses on Twitter to his dudely roar; he’s posted a bunch of them here. Guest appearances by Amanda Marcotte and (seriously) Roseanne Barr.

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Linds
12 years ago

Wow, my second paragraph is a muddle. :/

Kyrie
Kyrie
12 years ago

“@Ozymandias42: but but but but but…….I thought there were you know objective qualifications! Criteria! Abs! Rock hard jawline!! etc.”

You’re taking it the wrong way. You look at the quantity of sex (and what the women looks like), apply the label and then you justify with things like:
– is rich
– is pretty
– play the guitar
– can do magic tricks
– has abs
– …

Molly Ren
12 years ago

Peeps, I think it’s time we started “The Book of Arks”.

Lesbian separatism was so widespread that it lowered the female population. This increased the sexual value of women and allowed women to become even more powerful as a result.

Professors are true Alpha males, because all of their female students worship them. A college class is actually a professor’s small harem.

Spearhafoc
12 years ago

Hugo reminds me of Terry Long, the husband of Donna Troy from 80s Teen Titans comics. He was a professor, an obvious author stand-in (for Marv Wolfman) and (unintentionally) creepy as hell.

There’s a whole Tumblr devoted to him being creepy. This one’s my favourite, but there are a few of him making suggestive remarks about Donna’s teammates while she’s standing right there.

Is that geeky enough for you?

Molly Ren
12 years ago

Even after 4 years of college I never got the whole “professors are alpha males” thing. Most of them were several decades older than us, married, didn’t dress very well and made us do a lot of difficult equations and translations, none of which endears me to someone. XD

CassandraSays
12 years ago

I have a sneaking suspicion that most of the students that Hugo thinks have crushes on him nowadays do not, and that he’s interpreting intellectual admiration, a wish for mentorship, etc, as having a sexual component*. Which is part of why I hate reading anything he writes about his students. I know it’s an ego thing and he just wants to still think he has his mojo, etc, but it’s creepy.

* It gets even more cringe-worthy when he starts going on about how they can’t help but sexualize him, being young women, but he is now to above all that and knows how to deal with it due to his past experience screwing students, so he is able to gently guide them and turn their sexual interest towards intellectual endevours.

Kendra, the bionic mommy
Kendra, the bionic mommy
12 years ago

I will sometimes read blog posts at The Good Men Project, but I avoid the comments section. There are way too many MRA’s there shouting down anyone who dares to disagree with them.

Arks, what do you mean by

and by extension control over that entire peer groups repository of vaginas as well.

?

Then again, I’m not sure I do want to understand what you meant by that. It’s probably more offensive than it already sounds.

kladle
kladle
12 years ago

When you’re a professor you have authority over a woman’s entire peer group, and by extension control over that entire peer groups repository of vaginas as well.

Is the “repository of vaginas” like a giant warehouse where the Pussy Cartel stores the vagina stockpile so they can strategically control vagina prices?

That would be a really weird warehouse.

katz
12 years ago

How is it controversial to call Schwyzer alpha?

Well, the main controversy is that everyone outside your extremely specific subculture doesn’t believe in your made-up hierarchy.

KathleenB
KathleenB
12 years ago

Adi: WTF? No professor I’ve ever met has control of student’s primary sexual characteristics. Nor should they – those who possess said characteristics control them. Maybe you should lay off the absinthe for a while…

Kendra, the bionic mommy
Kendra, the bionic mommy
12 years ago

I don’t think it’s that creepy when Schwyzer describes how some of his students have a crush on him. It’s not that uncommon for college students to be attracted to their favorite professors, especially if they are intelligent and have the same political views. What Hugo describes reminds me of the student on Indiana Jones who wrote “Love you” on her eyelids during her class. It’s just a harmless crush that gives a little ego boost to the professor.

Of course what Hugo used to do with students was very unethical and unprofessional, but he longer does that kind of stuff. While it is harmless for students or professors to fantasize about that kind of thing, it’s wrong to actually act out the fantasies.

Molly Ren
12 years ago

Kladle, in that last scene of Raiders of the Lost Ark, every single box is full of vaginas.

CassandraSays
12 years ago

It’s the specific way he does it that I find creepy, and how obviously he gets a kick out of it, in combination with his past behavior. I don’t think it’s even sexual really so much as pure power tripping.

ithiliana
ithiliana
12 years ago

Arks: Welllllll, there is an academic hierarchy, and community college teachers are pretty far down the ladder (I hasten to add that so are poor and small regional universities like mine–and some community college teachers around here get paid more than I do).

And I don’t consider that I have any sort of authority over my students genitals and anybody thinking/talking that way is a creeping creep dickbiscuit.

Bostonian
12 years ago

Arks will never equal the clam diver comment over on the rape thread.

However, all of your vaginas are belong to us.

Carry on.

ithiliana
ithiliana
12 years ago

Stoner: Amazingly enough, feminist discourse and communities involve criticism and critique, not just mindless phrase and echo chambers (despite what the MRA thinks).

Linds: I am a major Elgin fan, have read her books, and one student in my graduate course just did a stylistics anlysis on her paper–the issue of Laa’dan (the women’s language), and how it worked out in the trilogy is something I love to talk about.

Very sadly, I gather that she is currently not well (suffering from some form of senile dementia, or something), though these are primarily internet rumors.

But I ADORE ADORE ADORE all her work. (She has her Ph.D. in linguistics, and I”ve used some of her novels in courses with a linguistic focus–not a linguistics class because I don’t teach in that area, but composition/rhetoric/discourse analysis).

EmilyBites
12 years ago

From Schwyzer’s interview with Clarisse Thorn at rolereboot:

CT: You have a somewhat controversial sexual history. You’ve openly acknowledged doing things as intense as chaperoning a class trip on which you slept with four of the students. How does this influence your thinking about sexuality today?

HS: Hah, I love the ambiguity of the word “intense.” In terms of my sexual history with my students (which for the sake of clarification ended abruptly when I got sober in ’98), the key word is simply “unethical.” Though my promiscuity was hardly confined to my own students, that behavior stands out as deeply and profoundly wrong. Even if it was consensual, and involved students who for the most part were my approximate chronological peers, it was still a boundary violation. In the broader sense, that aspect of my past has made me keenly sensitive to power imbalances in sexual relationships. It’s made me mistrustful of the possibility of consent in those instances where one person has so much more experience and authority than the other.

But I also had a lot of sex with women—and men—who weren’t my students or in any way under my supervision. And some of that was joyful, fun, and life-affirming.

I won’t say that I didn’t enjoy my promiscuous years. But for me, much of my sexual behavior when I was younger was tinged with a grim almost dutiful compulsivity. I don’t look back on that time with much fondness, but I don’t have self-loathing about it either. It’s done now. Its legacy is, I hope, a scrupulous attentiveness to boundaries.

Yup, it seems like he’s pretty much over the whole ‘unethically shagging his students’ thing. He’s moved past it, and now ‘it’s done’. So…that’s good to know. I’m glad all those students he messed with have left him a lucrative, redemptive legacy of scrupulousness.

Pillock.

CassandraSays
12 years ago

What I want to know is why Clarisse didn’t call him out on that giant steaming pile of self-justifying bullshit.

CassandraSays
12 years ago

(Actually I suspect I already know the answer, I’m just curious to see how she’d attempt to justify it.)

Holly Pervocracy
12 years ago

But I also had a lot of sex with women—and men—who weren’t my students or in any way under my supervision.

Gosh. I think I need to bake him the world’s tiniest cookie.

He also seems to be massively power-tripping on “oh yeah, I could… but I don’t, because I’m so virtuous… but I never forget for an instant that I could.

Which makes his campaign to be The Official Male Feminist even more oogy.

CassandraSays
12 years ago

He won’t eat it, Holly. He likes to be all self-flagellating about food too.

Joanna
12 years ago

Wait. What? My college lecturers controlled my vagina?

Alphalady
Alphalady
12 years ago

Speaking of warehousing vaginas, David should add this one to his Glossary: SMV. It stands for “sexual market value,” another favored MRA concept. It’s based on “scientific fact,” ‘natch.

EmilyBites
12 years ago

Ack, more from the interview:

CT: Your sexual history also makes you a controversial figure with some feminists. How do you respond to that? You consider yourself a feminist — how does your sexual history influence your feminism today?

HS: I learned early on in the amends process that some people would never believe my conversion was real. They would never trust that the leopard had changed his spots, as it were. You can’t prove a negative; I can only live the life I do now as best I can and live it openly. I’m a pretty open book.

My behavior with students from 1996-98 was unacceptable for a male feminist and, for that matter, an ethical person. The question is whether the penalty for that ought to be a lifetime ban from teaching gender studies, or writing about the subjects I write about. Some feminists feel yes, it should be. I disagree, but only because so many wonderful feminist mentors of mine have encouraged me to stay in this work.

Biggest takeaway: I need to be accountable. If someone on campus or elsewhere sees me do something that doesn’t seem kosher, as it were, he or she can come speak to me. I have an “accountability team” of men and women whom I count as my friends (many are feminist academics). I’m willing to listen to hard criticism from them, without insisting that they parent me. If you’re gonna be a male feminist you need those accountability partners in your life.

You guys, he’s only the world’s foremost male feminist expert on men and feminism because his wonderful feminist mentors have INSISTED he promote himself confidently and without shame. He has absolved himself of all wrongdoing and now has a clean slate.

Didn’t mean for this to turn into a Schwyzerbashfest, by the way – I actually didn’t know much about him until I read this interview (I’d read one or two things by him and found them a bit smug, but reasoned that they weren’t aimed at me, as a woman, which is why I found them…not speaking to me).

Holly Pervocracy
12 years ago

Joanna – Yep! Obviously. And I think Hugo Schwyzer would… give a long weepy lecture about how he used to think that way, and he hurt oh so many people (how terrible for him), but now he is enlightened. Now he only controls vaginas for good.

In 4.5 years of college, I’ve only crushed hard on one professor and it was super awkward. (I don’t think he knew? Hopefully he just thought I had terrible social skills and that’s why I was always weird and stammery when I came to office hours.) Most of my professors, even if they’re cute, aren’t in the mental category of “someone whose sexuality I should concern myself with.”

However, there are lots of professors that I’ve been friendly with, joked around with, and been sociable with outside of class. Either because I just liked them as people or because I wanted to make sure they remembered my name when they were grading papers.

I really hope they didn’t all think that I was drooling for them. Jeez.

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