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The False Rape Society is shocked — shocked! — by a fraternity’s “who would you rape?” survey.

The False Rape Society is shocked and stunned that frat boys would joke about rape.

So you may have seen the story yesterday about the University of Vermont fraternity that was suspended for sending out a charming little survey that allegedly asked, among other things, “If you could rape someone, who would it be?” (FWIW, the frat now says it was the work of an individual frat member, not the chapter.)

Reading about this incident, I’m guessing that you probably didn’t ask yourself: “I wonder how the guys at the False Rape Society will use this news to push their own agenda?” Heck, I didn’t even think to ask myself that question. But while doing the rounds of the MRA blogs I’ve discovered the answer to that question, and here it is: FRS head honcho Pierce Harlan described the survey as “perhaps a poke at feminism’s fascination with rape,” then denounced it as “indefensible,” then ranted about the evils of false rape accusations. I guess that isn’t really shocking at all.

First, Harlan offered this take on the “who would you rape” question:

I assume the survey was sick humor, a crude satire of the fratboy culture, and perhaps a poke at feminism’s fascination with rape.

Yes, because any time men make rape jokes it’s probably because, you know, feminism, and its wacky obsession with rape.

Then Harlan went on to suggest that rape was no laughing matter – especially when it comes to rape that doesn’t happen:

Whatever it was intended to be, ultimately it is indefensible, because trivializing the word “rape” is no laughing matter, whether it’s a joke about the rape of male prisoners, or the fantasy “rape” of women, or a false rape claim intended to get a guy in, or a woman out of, trouble.

Well, that was quick. Let’s not talk about the trivialization of real rape. Let’s talk about the epidemic of “false rape accusations” that Harlan has convinced himself is the real problem here.

With nary a pause, Harlan moved on to complain about hypothetical feminists making a big deal out of this survey instead of joining him on his crusade:

There most certainly will be an outcry in the feminist blogosphere over this isolated incident

This what incident?

and it will be cited as proof positive to support the myth that ours is a  “rape culture.”

Yeah, I wonder why casual jokes about rape would possibly be considered as part of “rape culture.”

A “rape culture,” of course, not only would tolerate but would condone such a puerile survey.  Our society does neither. The only “rape” jokes our society condones concerns prison rape — and that’s because society actually encourages prison rape as a sort of “added bonus” punishment for any hapless male who lands in prison.  It is ironic that actual prison rape does not garner the outrage that this this sick fratboy humor is generating. Go figure.

This from a guy who doesn’t seem to have ever even bothered to mention the leading anti-prison rape organization, Just Detention, on his web site. (See here for more on the issue on Man Boobz.) Though he does offer three links on his main page to information about the statute of limitation for rape charges, in case anyone reading is worried about getting caught being falsely accused for something they did didn’t do a long time ago.

Meanwhile,rape jokes — and not just prison rape jokes — are everywhere. Harlan, I assume you are at least somewhat familiar with a little site called Reddit, where people not only laugh at rape jokes – they laugh at actual rape!

Meanwhile, in the comments on Harlan’s article, some False Rape Society readers don’t even bother to pretend that the “rape survey” bothers them. According to the commenter called “bad,”

We should be celebrating young men who stand up against misandry. We should be celebrating the frat that said “no means yes” and we should be celebrating the frat that created this survey, if it’s a real story.

An anonymous commenter takes it a step further:

I do not condemn this action,

in fact, I wish I’d thought of it.

It is a brilliant and very appropriate response to the way young men are being treated by college campuses.

When the answer to “who would you like to treat like a rapist” is “all college men”, I think that asking them who they’d like to rape is more than fair.

But it is Harlan’s response to these comments that is the most revealing:

By the way, I read the reaction of Bad and others as a natural backlash … against the unconscionable PC culture of misandry on campus. I happen to disagree with those who suggest this was acceptable, but their remarks should not be construed as evidence that we live in a “rape culture.” Like Steve, I read their comments more as an affirmation that we live in a false rape culture–a culture that more and more men are finding intolerable.

I, on the other hand, doubt that these young men have the first clue about misandry, feminism, or how colleges run roughshod over the rights of young men. I am always amazed when we hear from falsely accused people who “had not idea this goes on.” My guess is they were just being being “funny.” I would, frankly, love to find out I am wrong, and that not only would they never call for a woman to be actually raped, but that this was a protest against the pendulum swinging too far. In that case, I am still not sure I could find it acceptable but it would initiate an entirely different dialogue.

So the survey is “indefensible,” yet a totally understandable reaction to, and protest against, an “unconscionable PC culture of misandry.”

Got it.

EDITED TO ADD: Harlan has written a response, of sorts, to this post. It is a bit — what’s the word I’m looking for here? — zany.

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Magpie
Magpie
13 years ago

Bye bye – off to visit Dad in hospital.

Kyrie
Kyrie
13 years ago

“The marriage therapists determine the “guilt” in relationship advice.”
I’ve never seen one, but I don’t think that’s how it works.

“In other words, a therapist takes sides before any facts are given.”
Has this test been given to trained therapists, with the same answers?

zhinxy
13 years ago

I also got “tall” for man. And hungry. Also women gave me “soft” and “hungry”

Everybody in my subconscious is hungry? Or is it just me? Cause I’m kind of hungry?

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
13 years ago

As a Brit I grew up with the Daily Fail, and I officially declare it fit for nothing except wrapping chips in. It’s not even really a newspaper so much as sort of a combination of ONTD and Stormfront in newspaper-like form. In all seriousness, they’ve been proven to write some of their news stories prior to the actual event – hard hitting investigative journalism it is not. If you want actual news from the UK then read either the Guardian or the Times, or the BBCs site. The Times is even a Murdoch paper, so you don’t have to worry that evil leftists are distorting your news! But still, it exists in the reality-based universe, unlike the Daily Mail.

On another note, MRAL, please try to stop undermining yourself. Good grades are always part hard work and part natural intelligence, and both are good things. Being humble is great, but you sound more like maybe you’re actually doing the “I’m worthless, I am, even my achievements mean nothing” thing, and that’s not good. It takes conscious effort to break that mental feedback loop, so try to catch yourself when you’re doing it make yourself stop and look at the situation logically.

Kyrie
Kyrie
13 years ago

You want to eat men!!!!

VoiP
VoiP
13 years ago

Fuck man, I’m sorry.

zhinxy
13 years ago

We all have implicit biases we need to face, NWO, but that doesn’t automatically mean everybody needs to go home now and not do their jobs because of bias. Does it? Cause even for a crazy feminist plan, that would seem kind of out there, yes or no?

katz
13 years ago

My first thought for “man” was “cuddly.”

zhinxy
13 years ago

magpie – Aw, I’m sorry. I hope he’s doing well.

zhinxy
13 years ago

katz – cuddly and hungry? Seriously, I’m trying to get to the bottom of the HUNGRY HUMANS OF MY SUBCONSCIOUS. I think I should go eat somethign while I think that over.

Kyrie
Kyrie
13 years ago

My first was man-hater, because I hear that here so often. The second was great man because all of history book are so full of them.

NWOslave
NWOslave
13 years ago

@zhinxy

Only therapy/psycologist/psychiatrist students were used in the study. The list of descriptive words describing men were all negative. Aggressive, violent, angry, controlling and so forth. For women they were all positive, loving, caring, honest, gentle and so forth.

This bias has been ingrained into society. Why didn’t they use words like brave, courageous, selfless, loving, outgoing and so forth for men. Literally every word used by future therapists to describe men was negative. And every word to describe women was positive.

VoiP
VoiP
13 years ago

Seriously, I’m trying to get to the bottom of the HUNGRY HUMANS OF MY SUBCONSCIOUS. I think I should go eat somethign while I think that over.

Everyone’s subconscious is full of hungry humans. That is, like, its entire deal.

Kyrie
Kyrie
13 years ago

magpie: hope he is, or will very soon be, well.

zhinxy
13 years ago

Actually, tall was just me fishing for my initial word picture, which is something like “limbed?” Anyway, let’s go with tall.

zhinxy
13 years ago

“Everyone’s subconscious is full of hungry humans. That is, like, its entire deal.”

Awesome.

Kyrie
Kyrie
13 years ago

NWO, why did you continue after “man”?

Nobby
Nobby
13 years ago

@NWO soo… citation?

katz
13 years ago

NWOslave, what study was this? When and where was it done? Where can we see the results? If you say nothing, I’ll assume it was done by the Rothschilds.

Joanna
13 years ago

“Actually, tall was just me fishing for my initial word picture, which is something like “limbed?” Anyway, let’s go with tall.”

Did you picture the mens’ room symbol too?

VoiP
VoiP
13 years ago

Only therapy/psycologist/psychiatrist students were used in the study. The list of descriptive words describing men were all negative. Aggressive, violent, angry, controlling and so forth. For women they were all positive, loving, caring, honest, gentle and so forth.

This bias has been ingrained into society. Why didn’t they use words like brave, courageous, selfless, loving, outgoing and so forth for men. Literally every word used by future therapists to describe men was negative. And every word to describe women was positive.

You’re not listening to me: where on the list was “flammable,” “incandescent,” “inferno,” “blaze,” “flame,” “that one scene from Amok Time that I fangirl over,” or any other synonyms for “on fire?” This is relevant to my interests.

zhinxy
13 years ago

@zhinxy

Only therapy/psycologist/psychiatrist students were used in the study. The list of descriptive words describing men were all negative. Aggressive, violent, angry, controlling and so forth. For women they were all positive, loving, caring, honest, gentle and so forth.”

ALL of them? Nobody even answered a weird one like I did (“hungry, was one of mine)?”

they were ALL negative for men and ALL positive for women?

That’s pretty hard even for you to believe, don’t you think?

or did they have to select words from a pre-written set?

Kyrie
Kyrie
13 years ago

link, pretty please?

VoiP
VoiP
13 years ago

Actually, tall was just me fishing for my initial word picture, which is something like “limbed?”

How…many…limbs?

“Everyone’s subconscious is full of hungry humans. That is, like, its entire deal.”

Awesome.

Yeah, it’s like a singles bar but the only people in it are Freud, just copies of Freud, in suits and dresses and skinny jeans and ironic haircuts, and it’s mostly awkward silence under the music, I mean there’s an edge in this place that I don’t like all the time (but the booze is good) until a chickFreud on a stool close to the door turns to me and says “Do you…need? Because I need.”

I need too, sexyFreud. I need a lot.

zhinxy
13 years ago

cause my mental picture for man is somethign like davinci’s guy, and my mental picture for woman is madonna-esque holding baby to boobs. I came out with “tall: (but more like “limbed) and “soft:” respectively for that (I’m autistic, you get the picture before the words, it’s a thing, too) and then I get both of them wanting food. So, basically, I’m an equal-hunger-feminist? I dunno…

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