So you may have seen the story yesterday about the University of Vermont fraternity that was suspended for sending out a charming little survey that allegedly asked, among other things, “If you could rape someone, who would it be?” (FWIW, the frat now says it was the work of an individual frat member, not the chapter.)
Reading about this incident, I’m guessing that you probably didn’t ask yourself: “I wonder how the guys at the False Rape Society will use this news to push their own agenda?” Heck, I didn’t even think to ask myself that question. But while doing the rounds of the MRA blogs I’ve discovered the answer to that question, and here it is: FRS head honcho Pierce Harlan described the survey as “perhaps a poke at feminism’s fascination with rape,” then denounced it as “indefensible,” then ranted about the evils of false rape accusations. I guess that isn’t really shocking at all.
First, Harlan offered this take on the “who would you rape” question:
I assume the survey was sick humor, a crude satire of the fratboy culture, and perhaps a poke at feminism’s fascination with rape.
Yes, because any time men make rape jokes it’s probably because, you know, feminism, and its wacky obsession with rape.
Then Harlan went on to suggest that rape was no laughing matter – especially when it comes to rape that doesn’t happen:
Whatever it was intended to be, ultimately it is indefensible, because trivializing the word “rape” is no laughing matter, whether it’s a joke about the rape of male prisoners, or the fantasy “rape” of women, or a false rape claim intended to get a guy in, or a woman out of, trouble.
Well, that was quick. Let’s not talk about the trivialization of real rape. Let’s talk about the epidemic of “false rape accusations” that Harlan has convinced himself is the real problem here.
With nary a pause, Harlan moved on to complain about hypothetical feminists making a big deal out of this survey instead of joining him on his crusade:
There most certainly will be an outcry in the feminist blogosphere over this isolated incident
This what incident?
and it will be cited as proof positive to support the myth that ours is a “rape culture.”
Yeah, I wonder why casual jokes about rape would possibly be considered as part of “rape culture.”
A “rape culture,” of course, not only would tolerate but would condone such a puerile survey. Our society does neither. The only “rape” jokes our society condones concerns prison rape — and that’s because society actually encourages prison rape as a sort of “added bonus” punishment for any hapless male who lands in prison. It is ironic that actual prison rape does not garner the outrage that this this sick fratboy humor is generating. Go figure.
This from a guy who doesn’t seem to have ever even bothered to mention the leading anti-prison rape organization, Just Detention, on his web site. (See here for more on the issue on Man Boobz.) Though he does offer three links on his main page to information about the statute of limitation for rape charges, in case anyone reading is worried about getting caught being falsely accused for something they did didn’t do a long time ago.
Meanwhile,rape jokes — and not just prison rape jokes — are everywhere. Harlan, I assume you are at least somewhat familiar with a little site called Reddit, where people not only laugh at rape jokes – they laugh at actual rape!
Meanwhile, in the comments on Harlan’s article, some False Rape Society readers don’t even bother to pretend that the “rape survey” bothers them. According to the commenter called “bad,”
We should be celebrating young men who stand up against misandry. We should be celebrating the frat that said “no means yes” and we should be celebrating the frat that created this survey, if it’s a real story.
An anonymous commenter takes it a step further:
I do not condemn this action,
in fact, I wish I’d thought of it.
It is a brilliant and very appropriate response to the way young men are being treated by college campuses.
When the answer to “who would you like to treat like a rapist” is “all college men”, I think that asking them who they’d like to rape is more than fair.
But it is Harlan’s response to these comments that is the most revealing:
By the way, I read the reaction of Bad and others as a natural backlash … against the unconscionable PC culture of misandry on campus. I happen to disagree with those who suggest this was acceptable, but their remarks should not be construed as evidence that we live in a “rape culture.” Like Steve, I read their comments more as an affirmation that we live in a false rape culture–a culture that more and more men are finding intolerable.
I, on the other hand, doubt that these young men have the first clue about misandry, feminism, or how colleges run roughshod over the rights of young men. I am always amazed when we hear from falsely accused people who “had not idea this goes on.” My guess is they were just being being “funny.” I would, frankly, love to find out I am wrong, and that not only would they never call for a woman to be actually raped, but that this was a protest against the pendulum swinging too far. In that case, I am still not sure I could find it acceptable but it would initiate an entirely different dialogue.
So the survey is “indefensible,” yet a totally understandable reaction to, and protest against, an “unconscionable PC culture of misandry.”
Got it.
EDITED TO ADD: Harlan has written a response, of sorts, to this post. It is a bit — what’s the word I’m looking for here? — zany.
Dude, NWO, it’s a cat thread.
This little fella, for instance, looks as much like Hitler as it is possible for a cat to look.
NWO. Dude, that story is from the Daily Mail, and there’s a reason it’s known as the Daily Fail.
Poor little Kitlers, it’s a good thing they don’t know who they look like! 🙂
Dog carcass in alley this morning, tire tread on burst stomach. This city is afraid of me. I have seen its true face.
The streets are extended gutters and the gutters are full of blood and when the drains finally scab over, all the vermin will drown. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout “Save us!”… and I’ll look down and whisper “Mew.”
:3
@hellkell
A man is in prison for 3 years, another man has 8 knocked out teeth and permanent hearing damage. All on a womans word. However, she did fuck them both. In more ways than one if ya know what I mean. Yuk, yuk, yuk!
Steve rabbit is getting better
https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=2df04615718c7a8b#cid=2DF04615718C7A8B&id=2DF04615718C7A8B%21148
He hippity-hops around the yard with the chooks, and he can move his ears a little bit, enough to semaphore A, G or N 😉
But I couldn’t get a photo of him nose kissing the black cat.
Shock of impact ran along your arm. Jet of warmth spattered on chest, like hot faucet. It was some idiot on the Internet who said “Mother” then, muffled under latex. It was that idiot who closed his eyes. It was MWOSlave who opened them again.
NWO, darling, beloved, fire of my heart, what was the question you wanted to ask me, sweetums?
Ahhh, Ozy. The game is afoot.
The question, being you’re our resident sex therapist. I’m assuming you’ve seen the vid of the young lad? If not do take a gander.
You’ll need to see the video for our scenario.
NWO, heart of my heart, life of my life, I am not actually a sex therapist. I’ll have to go through years more of training before then. But nevertheless I have seen the video. Out with it. 🙂
“:I’m starting to understand why virtually all women believe they were oppressed in the past. Before Big Daddy’s intervention, women were treated as equals. ”
When did Big Daddy’s intervention begin? Or are you suddenly Benjamin Tucker, and you theorize that the oppression of women was one of the first acts that began the State?
Very well.
The boy comes to you from therapy.
I’ll play the part of the boy.
You play the part of the therapist.
Is this acceptable?
Oh, Sorry, meant that to say Anti-Tucker, and the favoring of women began the primitive State? When did this happen?
You’ll need to see the video for our scenario.
*Interest in scenario dropping to 0*
Can others please stop kibbitzing, Ozy and I are role-playing?
“Equality is so much nicer when it’s backed by taxes for women only, charity for women only, laws for women only; All backed by the guns of the State.”
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, again, how many taxes do I have to pay in NWO world? You never answer this??? Is it a secret?
Okay, but after roleplay, can I know if I have to pay taxes or not?
I’m not sure Ozy wants to play. I doubt her computer is slower than mine. Mines like 10 years old. You will be faced with these sort of dillema’s as a sex therapist. Don’t go all bashful on me.
Okay, so if she won’t play, do I have to pay taxes or not?
NWO, what part of I AM NOT A TRAINED THERAPIST do you not understand? I’m in UNDERGRAD. I don’t know HOW to do therapy. This is like talking to someone who’s taking premed and asking them how to perform brain surgery! Even if they want to be brain surgeons, they DON’T KNOW HOW.
I can speak as a layperson with no experience in therapy, but not as a therapist, because I AM NOT A THERAPIST FOR FUCK’S SAKE NWO AND I NEVER SAID I WAS.
ozy – That means you are a therapist, but you can’t answer his briliant challenge. You were made a therapist by Title IX
NWO role-playing the assaulted kid. I can feel the creepiness coming from across the Atlantic.
Ozy, you don’t object to a large peanut gallery accompanying your fake therapy session, do you?
Also, I’m pretty sure “you’re a therapist” is the least false thing NWO is going to say while you’re role-playing.